Uncertainty wrote The only people who hate macbooks are gamers and kids that cant afford them.

Or people who know some things about computers.

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Bringing up price is simply ridiculous, any computer with similar design features cost within 200 dollars of a macbook pro.

No, it's not ridiculous. No, it won't. Asus Prime with 1080p IPS panels. Better specifications, build quality, resolution, design. It's also hundreds of dollars cheaper.

Asus Prime 13 inch $1,096.40

13 inch macbook air $1,199.00
Specs for macbook are slightly better.

That's not hundreds of dollars cheaper, it's 100 dollars cheaper. The Air has better specs, better build quality and a better design than the Asus. It also has a much better trackpad.

with the 100 dollars student discount it actually ends up almost the exact same haha. Not to mention the higher resolution screen, and pre installed photo and video editing software.

There are free software alternatives on PC that have equivalent fucntionality.

The 1080p IPS panel in itself makes the UX31A a better computer.

Lol take a look at the macbook air specs, they are alot better actually
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They're very nearly identical aside from the screen.

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All of the macs specs are better, and the price is the same. Your argument is 100% invalid...

What are you talking about? What specs sheet are you looking at?

4GB RAM
128GB SSD
Similar CPU
Better battery life
Better screen
Equivalent design

So why would you buy the Macbook again?

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Macbook air
4gb ram
128gb ssd
Better CPU
7 hour battery life. Where does it say how long the asus battery life is?
Higher resolution screen
Similar look
Mac has thunderbolt
Magsafe charger(never break a charging port again)
turbo boost to 2.8 ghz

UX31A battery lasted 3 minutes longer in Laptopmag's testing, calling that equivalent, I guess, haha.
The CPU is same architecture, clocked 1/18th higher, calling that equivalent as well.
What is making you think the MBA has a higher-resolution panel? 1440x900 on the Air and 1920x1080 on the UX31A. Panel quality is much better on the UX31A as well.
You're counting the Magsafe as a significant pro?
Both have Turbo Boost.
The UX31A has more I/O options and Thunderbolt has yet to make it into the mainstream.

EDIT: Last two posters need to read iPatobo's post.

Well seeming as how my brother had a dell with a broken charging port that they wouldnt replace( 2 months old) I would consider that something that stands out that no other company has done.

If anything we have come to the conclusion that these 2 computers are nearly the exact same, and the prices are pretty much the exact same. In the end it all comes down to preference and which OS you like more.
Again, you can't compare a low-end Dell (the only Dells I can recommend are the business-class laptops, many of which I chalk up with Thinkpads) to any high-end computer, and Apple only deals in high-end computers. In terms of pricing, at least. A laptop priced like a Mac should have a sturdy charging port and be able to take a fall like it's nothing. I see the Magsafe as a compensation for the poor impact resistance Macs have, and it's pretty effective. Magsafe is one of the most compelling features Macs have, if you ask me, but it still boils down to the fact that it's the charging port. It's not a huge deal either way.

I wouldn't say they're equivalent choices. You pay less for the UX31A and get significantly more. You pocket over a hundred bucks and get a much better screen, which is one of the most important features in a laptop. I'm willing to say the UX31A is a better buy, but I'll agree that preference of OS does count for something. Whether you're willing to spend more for a little less comes down to you.
this was a $2500 Dell designed for engineering, It was what the college he went to recommended he should get. Then again this was like 6 years ago, and times have changed.
Yeah, it probably was a Latitude or something similar. And you're right, laptop durability has come a very long way in a relatively short time, I'm really amazed by it! Trying not to sound like a fanboy but I definitely will, Thinkpads have always been super-durable. I'd say they're the only ones that have actually declined in that regard, haha!
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I would strongly agree on "Hate on macs is based on opinion", generally, it's based on sound, well thought opinion.

While some Macs, specifically the Macbook Air line (in my opinion) are much better priced. A lot of Apple's PCs are well overpriced, thus earn them a lot of hate from the collective of Windows / Linux users, and people sheep onto this to blend with the crowd.
Macbooks are really the only ones I can take seriously. The Mac Pro is a joke and a slap in the face to professionals that relied on them and had built what they do around OS X and Apple infrastructure. Apple not updating it and messing with Final Cut has really gotten to a lot of people, I've noticed. I think Apple really shot themself in the foot with this one and should cater more to the professional market they had such a good grip on. iMacs... Not as bad as the Mac Pro, but it's a desktop trying to be a laptop or vice versa. I haven't decided yet. Apple executes it well, but the whole concept of the all-in-one has a ways to go if you ask me. Get a Macbook instead, if you must have a Mac. Same performance, but you can, you know, move it?

People definitely do sheep into both crowds, which I find stupid. You're a consumer, you don't have to fight for a company. If one's better, you should buy it. End of story. But that's not what I see happening. It's not like I don't strongly consider every new Macbook, and if I didn't I don't think I could have a valid opinion.

I agree there, although I'm slowly beginning to lose faith in the Macbook Pro line, the pricing is pretty shocking, even for Apple. (on the 15 inch non-Retina models especially)

The Air line is much more conformed to the Windows Ultrabook market on price.

Yeah windows will always be the best cause of their cheapness and many people can't afford apple pricey products and it's better just to buy a custom built pc from any site or you can make your own on the site aswell then buy it :mrgreen:

Not everything is about specs. So many people don't get that the average consumer doesn't care about a spec sheet. Also, what if you want a laptop? Most people don't need the power of a PC and would like to have something portable.

Yeah i know i bought a custom built labtop on the site also.

A laptop isn't all about specs. Buying a custom-built laptop is stupid because all you're going to get is a bulky, overheating, monster laptop. Is your custom-built laptop light and portable? Does it have good battery life, and does it have a good keyboard/trackpad? Does the company building it have good support?

I didn't buy a laptop so I could have the processing power of the ISS, I bought it because it's small. I have a desktop for data heavy things, Blackphazor is exactly right.

The most data intensive thing people normally run on their laptops is streaming video or typing a word doc.

Macintosh really made a name for it's self back when they were invented. Sleek design, incredible packaging (no reason to pay more), decent specs, and an OS different then Windows for a larger price then most PCs. What seems to have happened is that Apple seems to think they are still in that era, when they aren't. They cannot just have a "new" OS and a sleek design when so many companies offer the same things, with better spec, for a lesser price. I'm not saying I wouldn't buy a Mac with the same specs as a cheaper computer, IF it was made in the US. (Just to support my county ) Another thing you need to factor in is if you utilize the Cloud feature, which Windows hasn't been able to mimic fully.

To all the kids acting like people who used apple products "dont know anything about computers" that is an EXTREMELY generalized and ignorant thing to say.

wow thats alot of cash i would rather have an alienware for that amount of money

Cool bro, I just got a iPad :trollin:

Im going to be buying one in like 2 weeks!!

Uncertainty wrote To all the kids acting like people who used apple products "dont know anything about computers" that is an EXTREMELY generalized and ignorant thing to say.

I don't know one person that owns an iPhone or Mac that is tech savvy, and I know a lot of people with both.

It's not ignorant, with the amount of iPhone sales, a device aimed at users who want a simple experience, a majority of those people won't know about specs and such.

That can be reiterated to apply to a majority of Apple products, since they aim at the majortiy of the market - the people who aren't tech savvy. That strategy (of Apple) dates back to the Apple II and continues to this day.

$1,704.27

Someone must be rich, or saving up for a while! I really wish I had one of those!