MatrixModding wrote Remember bad coding is just trial and error

Fixed.

If you have decent programming skill, you shouldn't really be doing that much "trial and error". That's how you end up with broken programs.

SPEED wrote

MatrixModding wrote Remember bad coding is just trial and error

Fixed.

If you have decent programming skill, you shouldn't really be doing that much "trial and error". That's how you end up with broken programs.

Thank's for correcting me.

I disagree, don't learn a complex language first. It'll completely boggle you down, you'll have to learn complex versions of simple things like:

Learning variables in VB.NET is much simpler than learning what variables are in C++.
If you learn a simple language first, it's much easier making the transition to a harder language.

Also, when moving on to a complex language all you have to do is learn the syntax and a few other things, as in theory you should know everything else.

AvP_Coding wrote I disagree, don't learn a complex language first. It'll completely boggle you down, you'll have to learn complex versions of simple things like:

Learning variables in VB.NET is much simpler than learning what variables are in C++.
If you learn a simple language first, it's much easier making the transition to a harder language.

Also, when moving on to a complex language all you have to do is learn the syntax and a few other things, as in theory you should know everything else.

That is completely terrible advice. Don't start with vb.net as it will just make things 10x harder down the road. Why you ask? VB.net is like no "real" language and you would have to really learn everything again.

I recommend you start out with C++ or Java mostly because they're straight forward languages and there is honestly nothing that complex about them. Also, Java and C++ have nearly identical syntax so all you have to do to transition from one to the other is learn a little subtle but key differences.

If you want to go with the easier language of the two then I'll let you know that Java is the easiest of those two for sure.

grundyboy34 wrote

AvP_Coding wrote I disagree, don't learn a complex language first. It'll completely boggle you down, you'll have to learn complex versions of simple things like:

Learning variables in VB.NET is much simpler than learning what variables are in C++.
If you learn a simple language first, it's much easier making the transition to a harder language.

Also, when moving on to a complex language all you have to do is learn the syntax and a few other things, as in theory you should know everything else.

That is completely terrible advice. Don't start with vb.net as it will just make things 10x harder down the road. Why you ask? VB.net is like no "real" language and you would have to really learn everything again.

I recommend you start out with C++ or Java mostly because they're straight forward languages and there is honestly nothing that complex about them. Also, Java and C++ have nearly identical syntax so all you have to do to transition from one to the other is learn a little subtle but key differences.

If you want to go with the easier language of the two then I'll let you know that Java is the easiest of those two for sure.

You clearly didn't read what I said... and then continued to blurt out shit

Do you even code C++ or Java?
Lol at this
"That is completely terrible advice. Don't start with vb.net as it will just make things 10x harder down the road. Why you ask? VB.net is like no "real" language and you would have to really learn everything again. "

VB.NET contains EVERYTHING you would expect from any other language. Also, VB IS a real language, it's just very high level.

Lol'd at this, too
"If you want to go with the easier language of the two then I'll let you know that Java is the easiest of those two for sure."

You clearly have no clue what your talking about. Java and C++ are similar, but there's no "Java is easier" crap. It's all down to personal preference.

AvP_Coding wrote I disagree, don't learn a complex language first. It'll completely boggle you down, you'll have to learn complex versions of simple things like:

Learning variables in VB.NET is much simpler than learning what variables are in C++.
If you learn a simple language first, it's much easier making the transition to a harder language.

Also, when moving on to a complex language all you have to do is learn the syntax and a few other things, as in theory you should know everything else.

Anything basic is complete and utter crap. It definitely depends on what you want to do on what language you should learn. For example: it is pretty stupid someone wanting to get into web development to learn C++ though it is possible to use C++ for web dev but it is just one massive headache unless you really know what you are doing, someone wanting to learn would not. Also it would be pointless someone wanting to game or application development learning PHP.

For Programming:
For web dev start with learning html then css then javascript then PHP.
Learn C++ or java for app dev. Or if you love massive challenges learn ASM.

Though C is still (according to [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ) the most used language, C++ is far better in my opinion.

I have been at College for 8 Weeks and started to learn the code within Visual Basics which is easy to get your head around but it requires a lot of practise.
I have just completed my first program in Forms based design which was just Trial and Error other than that..Yeah give it a go!

I am also a begginer and tried C and C++ but now I am into HTML and CSS (which go togethre) it's easy to learn and you can make good websites. it all depends what you want to get into after you start programming like website design, game creation, computer programs, ect. start off with a simple language and see what you want to get into and make your way up after you make a good program or website. also take classes in school thats what i'm going to do when i can. hope this helps!

EDIT: if you are gonna do HTML use thenewboston.org [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] this guy is really good at showing how to do it, and he has other languages on there too if you choose something other than HTML.

i started with HTML. Started with the hello world stuf

AvP_Coding wrote

grundyboy34 wrote

AvP_Coding wrote I disagree, don't learn a complex language first. It'll completely boggle you down, you'll have to learn complex versions of simple things like:

Learning variables in VB.NET is much simpler than learning what variables are in C++.
If you learn a simple language first, it's much easier making the transition to a harder language.

Also, when moving on to a complex language all you have to do is learn the syntax and a few other things, as in theory you should know everything else.

That is completely terrible advice. Don't start with vb.net as it will just make things 10x harder down the road. Why you ask? VB.net is like no "real" language and you would have to really learn everything again.

I recommend you start out with C++ or Java mostly because they're straight forward languages and there is honestly nothing that complex about them. Also, Java and C++ have nearly identical syntax so all you have to do to transition from one to the other is learn a little subtle but key differences.

If you want to go with the easier language of the two then I'll let you know that Java is the easiest of those two for sure.

You clearly didn't read what I said... and then continued to blurt out shit

Do you even code C++ or Java?
Lol at this
"That is completely terrible advice. Don't start with vb.net as it will just make things 10x harder down the road. Why you ask? VB.net is like no "real" language and you would have to really learn everything again. "

VB.NET contains EVERYTHING you would expect from any other language. Also, VB IS a real language, it's just very high level.

Lol'd at this, too
"If you want to go with the easier language of the two then I'll let you know that Java is the easiest of those two for sure."

You clearly have no clue what your talking about. Java and C++ are similar, but there's no "Java is easier" crap. It's all down to personal preference.

the appropriate response to this is... L0L!!!!

Yes I do know Java and C++, I've just finished my C++ class actually. Now about the topic of why Java is easier than C++, C++ uses stream operators for one thing (<< and >>) which is harder to wrap your brain around when you are a beginning programmer. Also, I'd like to know why you took my criticism so personally.. seems that you are a 12 year old in my opinion. Oh and my final point to make... Visual Basic is not a high level language lmfao