If a psycho wants to get illegal weapons and kill people, he will do that. No law is going to stop him, its just going to take weapons away from those who would defend themselves. This nation is a joke now.

I think that you shouldn't have to give them up

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" That is what the 2nd amendment say's word for word.

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TryHardGraphics wrote What I don't get is why do they want to ban guns its not the guns its the people, why not just do background checks like Obama proposed that is the thing I 100% agree with Obama but on banning assault rifles?Nope 2nd amendment.

Assault Rifles are banned. No citizen can own a fully automatic rifle of any variant. It's extremely illegal. Assault weapons refer to rifles such as the AR-15 Civilian Variant. They normally have larger magazines, but only fire as fast as the trigger is pulled. I don't support them though, and don't believe citizens should own them. :p

Actually you can get fully auto weapons in some states if you have the money, licenses, background, and have something to lock them in. They also have to be made before 1986. If you want to get technical, anything and everything can be an assault weapon. It's a tag they place it with to make it seem worse than what it is. It's a semi-auto rifle, nothing more. My brother has two AR-15's and I guarantee you he won't give those up. It's unconstitutional and no one in the government has the right to take them away. The government has created many laws in the past 15 years that are unconstitutional and it's getting quite ridiculous.

Obviously it's unconstitutional. There were no Assault weapons when the second Amendment was put in place. Obviously because the founding fathers wished us all to carry trench knives and M4s. On the serious side though, I don't believe that simply saying "Because I like them" Is a fair argument to use when defending guns rights either. And I doubt that half the people who say they would rebel against the Government if all ballistics weapons were banned would actually bear arms and fight our Army. Most would turn tail and run, or submit to the laws. Just the way it goes :/

Again, all weapons are assualt weapons. Assault means to cause bodily harm. A pistol is an assault weapon. A musket is an assasult weapon. Our foundng fathers had pistols though. Why didn't they say we could have pistols, but not rifles? It's because they want us to have the same weaponry as the government. I bet they would give us full-auto rifles if given the chance. My family own them for multiple reasons. For collecting, hunting, self defence, and if anything happens during this whole gun situation. All in all, our founding fathers didn't let us have them due to everyday self defence. They gave us the right to be able to stand against the military and the other forms of authority. It wouldn't be smart to assume they would take away our right from the guns that the military have. If they gave us the right because they knew a government and military may try to rule us, why would they ban the guns that the military have? That's not smart at all. People out there are evil, but that does not give the government the right to take away semi-auto rifles. You punish the evil people. Taking away our rights isn't punishing anyone but good people. It's unconstitutional and should never happen.

One Bad apple ruins the bunch they say :/ . And I hope no one out there believes citizens should have access to Fully Automatic Rifles. May whatever God there is save us if that happens. But I trust our government, and without them (No matter how much they screw up) we wouldn't even be having this discussion. There needs to always be some sort of rule, or we are all idiots running around with our heads cut off. There needs to be order, and a set of systems with an outcome. Not a people trying to overthrow their government because they can't hunt deer with a M4 Variant. And no, not all guns are assault weapons. Weapons that need the assistance of a bolt action pull or pump action are not classified as these weapons. Although I do believe in the right to keep a Semi-Auto Medium caliber handgun, so I will defend the rights of keeping those.

I really do hate to say this, I really do, but I feel America and it's govnernment has been infiltrated by Nazi's. Even George W. Bush's grandfather was a Nazi. I feel their plan is continuing, but they are going about it differently. They can't do the same thing Germany did. At the end of World War 2, Nazi's fled the country to the US. It's why we still find Nazi's today. I'm sure some of them were smart enough and useful enough to get jobs in the CIA and other forms of agencies. There are certain events throughout history that suggests the government has their own plan for us, even though we are suppose to be the ones ruling them. It's this reason that makes me concerned. If the Nazi mindset survived, even if it is altered, it can be very bad. I understand where people want to trust the government, but you just can't. You should always question them. I understand where you come from, but I just can't agree. I'm seeing this very different from you, and what I see is very concerning to say the least.

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EXM wrote I would not mind if full-auto guns are banned because it would not affect me but that would be crazy if they banned guns used for self-defense.

Those are already banned.

Unless they where manufactured in 1986 or "Grandfathered" then their legal to own to any civilian who passes the background check anything past 1986 is illegal to own Unless you have a Tier 3 gun license which isn't the easiest thing to get. They're illegal only in some states like California and a few others. only 37 states are full auto guns legal. But a full auto gun is highly regulated and you need good paperwork and send a an application to the BATFE(Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms & Explosives.) And of course a background check is required again.

rizzyjizzy wrote If a psycho wants to get illegal weapons and kill people, he will do that. No law is going to stop him, its just going to take weapons away from those who would defend themselves. This nation is a joke now.

The shooters at places such as Aurora, Sandyhook , and VT all received their guns through legal means (Adam Lanza stole them from his mother, who received them legally). This shows that to kill all those innocent people, you don't have to buy illegally. You can show up, pay for a weapon, wait two days for a background check, and go kill all those people. No red flags raised. There needs to either be a complete ban on rifles such as the ones used, or a much more detailed one month waiting period for weapons like those.

Afghani wrote Sorry, but this needs to be said. The only people that need an Assault Rifle are the Armed forces.

Technically, if you have a rifle with the power you speak of, you are an armed force, and i'd rather be an armed force, than be killed by an armed force trying to break in my house. guns already saved my life once, idiot tried to break in and came face to barrel with my 12 gauge (no i did not shoot, i told him next time a would though, didnt even call the cops, i think he learned his lesson), and i already spent %1,200 on it, so im not giving up my weapon(s), i am a 2nd ammendment activist, and i even participate in the open carry pickup activities when they are near me when we openly carry our weapons and pick up trash and clean the neighborhood, even asked a few bystander people who were spectating because they were interested in the group of people with large firearms if they felt safer with a group of citizens with guns or a group of police and they said they feel safer with a group of citizens, so suck it, im keeping my weapons, i dont care if i have to go freeze them under water in my backyard lake in a block of ice, im keeping my weapons (and for those idiots who are like "you'll ruin your gun freezing them in water like that", you're an idiot, and obviously dont know anything about firearms)

thank you, have a nice day all, or night, or noon, or whatever the **** it is where you guys are

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Johnny-Cash wrote

EXM wrote I would not mind if full-auto guns are banned because it would not affect me but that would be crazy if they banned guns used for self-defense.

Those are already banned.

Unless they where manufactured in 1986 or "Grandfathered" then their legal to own to any civilian who passes the background check anything past 1986 is illegal to own Unless you have a Tier 3 gun license which isn't the easiest thing to get. They're illegal only in some states like California and a few others. only 37 states are full auto guns legal. But a full auto gun is highly regulated and you need good paperwork and send a an application to the BATFE(Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms & Explosives.) And of course a background check is required again.

their also 20,000-50,000 dollars. I doubt any criminal or middle class civilian is going to get one.

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TryHardGraphics wrote What I don't get is why do they want to ban guns its not the guns its the people, why not just do background checks like Obama proposed that is the thing I 100% agree with Obama but on banning assault rifles?Nope 2nd amendment.

Assault Rifles are banned. No citizen can own a fully automatic rifle of any variant. It's extremely illegal. Assault weapons refer to rifles such as the AR-15 Civilian Variant. They normally have larger magazines, but only fire as fast as the trigger is pulled. I don't support them though, and don't believe citizens should own them. :p

Actually you can get fully auto weapons in some states if you have the money, licenses, background, and have something to lock them in. They also have to be made before 1986. If you want to get technical, anything and everything can be an assault weapon. It's a tag they place it with to make it seem worse than what it is. It's a semi-auto rifle, nothing more. My brother has two AR-15's and I guarantee you he won't give those up. It's unconstitutional and no one in the government has the right to take them away. The government has created many laws in the past 15 years that are unconstitutional and it's getting quite ridiculous.

Obviously it's unconstitutional. There were no Assault weapons when the second Amendment was put in place. Obviously because the founding fathers wished us all to carry trench knives and M4s. On the serious side though, I don't believe that simply saying "Because I like them" Is a fair argument to use when defending guns rights either. And I doubt that half the people who say they would rebel against the Government if all ballistics weapons were banned would actually bear arms and fight our Army. Most would turn tail and run, or submit to the laws. Just the way it goes :/

Again, all weapons are assualt weapons. Assault means to cause bodily harm. A pistol is an assault weapon. A musket is an assasult weapon. Our foundng fathers had pistols though. Why didn't they say we could have pistols, but not rifles? It's because they want us to have the same weaponry as the government. I bet they would give us full-auto rifles if given the chance. My family own them for multiple reasons. For collecting, hunting, self defence, and if anything happens during this whole gun situation. All in all, our founding fathers didn't let us have them due to everyday self defence. They gave us the right to be able to stand against the military and the other forms of authority. It wouldn't be smart to assume they would take away our right from the guns that the military have. If they gave us the right because they knew a government and military may try to rule us, why would they ban the guns that the military have? That's not smart at all. People out there are evil, but that does not give the government the right to take away semi-auto rifles. You punish the evil people. Taking away our rights isn't punishing anyone but good people. It's unconstitutional and should never happen.

One Bad apple ruins the bunch they say :/ . And I hope no one out there believes citizens should have access to Fully Automatic Rifles. May whatever God there is save us if that happens. But I trust our government, and without them (No matter how much they screw up) we wouldn't even be having this discussion. There needs to always be some sort of rule, or we are all idiots running around with our heads cut off. There needs to be order, and a set of systems with an outcome. Not a people trying to overthrow their government because they can't hunt deer with a M4 Variant. And no, not all guns are assault weapons. Weapons that need the assistance of a bolt action pull or pump action are not classified as these weapons. Although I do believe in the right to keep a Semi-Auto Medium caliber handgun, so I will defend the rights of keeping those.

I really do hate to say this, I really do, but I feel America and it's govnernment has been infiltrated by Nazi's. Even George W. Bush's grandfather was a Nazi. I feel their plan is continuing, but they are going about it differently. They can't do the same thing Germany did. At the end of World War 2, Nazi's fled the country to the US. It's why we still find Nazi's today. I'm sure some of them were smart enough and useful enough to get jobs in the CIA and other forms of agencies. There are certain events throughout history that suggests the government has their own plan for us, even though we are suppose to be the ones ruling them. It's this reason that makes me concerned. If the Nazi mindset survived, even if it is altered, it can be very bad. I understand where people want to trust the government, but you just can't. You should always question them. I understand where you come from, but I just can't agree. I'm seeing this very different from you, and what I see is very concerning to say the least.

Nazis today are much different I believe ( although I am on the fence about agreeing with you about the possible infiltration) They are mostly un-organized White Power groups. Although the possible organization of actual Nazi party members is possible I guess.

Wow, there are some smart people on TTG