The only way Putin's going to get more control of Ukraine is by forcing his opposition out and the only way to do that is by starting a war. You don't put political pressure on a country just by having troops there. The troops have taken over the government buildings, but would you rather the protesters get hold of it even worse the sea base?

Ukraine told America and UK that the russians invaded when they were the ones who asked them to intervene, constantly lying about recieving orders to surrender and all that crap. Then they try to provoke Putin by threatening him with economic sanctions when he has a legitimate reason to be there. Did Putin get involved when USA and UK invaded Afghanistan with no legitimate reason? no, so why should they get involved when he has legitimate reason to being there?
Well we both have different opinions and i guess only time will tell what his true motives are.

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NATO responds sorta

F-117 wrote

Medkits wrote I agree with BigWes, this may start a World War III, this isn't going very well. Thanks for making this topic so everyone can talk under this one.

i hears the troops left, might have been just to show that Russia has power or something might have even been a war game lol.

Pro-Russian forces are in still de facto control of Crimea.

Wel the UN cant sanction Russia because it would back fire
If UN sanction Russia then Russia can turn of gas supplies that they have to many countries

My friend Andre, he lives in Ukraine poor guy

I believe that Russia is trying to defend it's people from the Ukraine. I hope that they can come to some sort of agreement before anything happens, if they don't it will be a massive world war. I wouldn't want to stay any longer.

Of course this is all a bunch of fantasy, I still figured I would post this.

Putin Adviser Publishes Plan for Domination of Europe

On March 9, a very influential geostrategic and ideological adviser of the Putin regime, Aleksandr Dugin, published his game plan for domination of Europe. The plan, which Dugin calls the Russian Spring, is presented as one of three scenarios for resolution of the current Ukrainian crisis. The other two, in which the Kremlin blinks in the face of Western pressure, result in thermonuclear war or complete global chaos.

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Kinda funny, but disturbing.

Russia begins new military exercises, involving more than 8,000 troops and large artillery, close to Ukraine's borders.

*MAJOR UPDATE* Ukraine deploys 20,000 national guard troops with another 20,000 reserves



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Ukrainian government refuses to remove troops from Crimea, prepares for war

In the wake of a March 16 referendum in which Crimeans voted to join the Russian Federation, Ukrainian leaders refused to cede any part of the peninsula, calling on their troops to prepare for war.

Crimea was, is, and will be our territory, said Defense Minister Ihor Tenyukh in a statement delivered at the Ukrainian Crisis Media Center on March 17.

Former heavyweight boxing champion and leader of the Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reform Vitali Klitschko announced that Ukrainian troops would remain at their bases, even after March 21, the end of a peace treaty signed by the interior ministries of Ukraine and Russia.

In accordance with the March 16 peace treaty, the Russian Interior Ministry promised to allow Ukrainian soldiers to pass freely into and out of their bases, which Russian troops had surrounded for more than two weeks. Tenyukh said that the Russian military had thus far respected the terms of the treaty.

Although tensions have de-escalated around military bases in Crimea since the signing of the treaty, neither side is prepared to back down. The Russian government expects that Ukrainian troops will surrender their military bases before the conclusion of the treaty. The Ukrainian government has said that it will not withdraw forces from Crimea, using the peace as an opportunity to replenish supplies for Ukrainian troops stationed on Crimean bases.

When asked whether Ukrainian troops would fight to defend Crimea, Tenyukh replied tersely, The armed forces will execute their tasks, later adding, Ukrainian forces will stay [in Crimea] until all their tasks have been completed.

Speaking to the Verkhovna Rada in the evening on March 17, Ukrainian President Oleksandr Turchynov said that his government would "do everything possible to prevent war." However, he noted that "the threat of war is real...We are strengthening our defense capacity. Ukraine is ready to defend its territory."

Earlier on March 17, the Ukrainian parliament voted to allot 6.7 billion hryvnia (more than $600 million) to bolster the countrys defenses over the next three months, and to partially mobilize the armed forces.

Tenyukh said that the mobilization was intended to bring the military to full readiness. The Verkhovna Rada called for 40,000 troops to be mobilized, calling on reservists to prepare for active duty.

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