Treyarch designers “weren’t always good” at multiplayer maps

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The Annihilation map pack represents Treyarch’s growing skills as level designers, David Vonderhaar has said.“We’re very concerned about pathing through the map. You want to make sure players can navigate the map in a consistent fashion. You want your main paths, to say, be wider than your flanking paths – tell a vocabulary in a visual story there,” the Black Ops design director told Gamefront.

“And what we’ve learned over time is that we weren’t always good at that.

“[But] we’ve gotten better at that and it’s become just part of our D.N.A. … So you’re seeing in the map packs this evolution of our thinking, and Annihilation represents exactly what we’re talking about here. … I think anything Treyarch does long-term will be more cognizant of it.”

Annihilation is the third map pack for Call of Duty: Black Ops, and is available now on Xbox Live, with other platforms to follow.

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xxpunkxxPosted:

I only bought 1st and 2nd packs, 3rd looks retarded.

scmgames2Posted:

Bobadette treyarc were never good designers and never will be black ops multiplayer is the epitamy of the word FAIL i think everyone should stop playing it so treyarc cant make any more horrible games that give COD a bad name.

I will never buy a treyarch game again.

BobadettePosted:

treyarc were never good designers and never will be black ops multiplayer is the epitamy of the word FAIL i think everyone should stop playing it so treyarc cant make any more horrible games that give COD a bad name.

VillainPosted:

LaserSpeed I don't have the new maps but I do have the first maps and the maps that came with the game. The only good one was Kowloon, because most maps had no vertical gameplay at all. Even MW2 did and it made it much more interesting, versus having obstacles in the way and having all of the lines of sight blocked off. Trust me, if they opened the maps up a little better and didn't make them so crowded with walls in the way and terrible flank routes, they would be much more interesting.

I completely agree with this, Black Ops felt to restricted, like I couldnt truly utilize the map. Ive always like IW's maps better

lklop16Posted:

I still believe treyarch maps are better. Just seem better, theres always open parts of the map for the main way. Then the sides have special things with it, I.e. moving parts, so i just enjoy there maps more :)

xLasersPosted:

I don't have the new maps but I do have the first maps and the maps that came with the game. The only good one was Kowloon, because most maps had no vertical gameplay at all. Even MW2 did and it made it much more interesting, versus having obstacles in the way and having all of the lines of sight blocked off. Trust me, if they opened the maps up a little better and didn't make them so crowded with walls in the way and terrible flank routes, they would be much more interesting.

TTG_DEATH_3MPIR3Posted:

The post below me describes hate talk.

Treyarch actaully did a good job of not making the maps to small and becoming more of a stategy. Treyarch may go halo status soon. who knows, they may have passed them up seeing how they are making better maps now. Mw3 with their help may rekindle the fire that has went out in the CoD series. trust me you dont want IW Making the old maps they had going for mw2. So the copying and pasting they have supposedly been doing is no longer the case.

You quote me with a bad reply ill rip your spine out. Enjoy :)

slaughtercellPosted:

_TTG-HAGGIS_
GibbityTree
whitexombie
GibbityTree Treyarch, you have always been terrible at making games period, maps are even worse. It's a shame you need to release DLC every month, just to keep the players from getting bored. Please, stop making games in general.


No, I think its you in general who sucks at playing the game. They make awesome maps. The only reason Treyarch made black ops is
1. There just down right better then InfinityWard
2. They felt Bad that we had to play a shitty game called modern warfags 2 for a decent FPS.
3. They release a DLC every month cause there that great. InfinityWard could have a "PERFECT" map pack sent from god himself, and they still would take forever to release it.


Your nothing but a Treyarch fanboy. Keep enjoying your terrible FPS made by a terrible company.



Lawl and your nothing but a IW fanboy
Treyarch copied everything that Infinity Ward did... Activision even said their best talent is at Infinity Ward... Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 used "IW 4.0 engine and Despite it being available at the time, Treyarch continued to use the older version of the IW engine in Call of Duty: Black Ops... Infinity Ward made the first Call of Duty and all of the best in the Call of Duty series

_TTG-HAGGIS_Posted:

GibbityTree
whitexombie
GibbityTree Treyarch, you have always been terrible at making games period, maps are even worse. It's a shame you need to release DLC every month, just to keep the players from getting bored. Please, stop making games in general.


No, I think its you in general who sucks at playing the game. They make awesome maps. The only reason Treyarch made black ops is
1. There just down right better then InfinityWard
2. They felt Bad that we had to play a shitty game called modern warfags 2 for a decent FPS.
3. They release a DLC every month cause there that great. InfinityWard could have a "PERFECT" map pack sent from god himself, and they still would take forever to release it.


Your nothing but a Treyarch fanboy. Keep enjoying your terrible FPS made by a terrible company.



Lawl and your nothing but a IW fanboy

XxKingyPosted:

GibbityTree
whitexombie
GibbityTree Treyarch, you have always been terrible at making games period, maps are even worse. It's a shame you need to release DLC every month, just to keep the players from getting bored. Please, stop making games in general.


No, I think its you in general who sucks at playing the game. They make awesome maps. The only reason Treyarch made black ops is
1. There just down right better then InfinityWard
2. They felt Bad that we had to play a shitty game called modern warfags 2 for a decent FPS.
3. They release a DLC every month cause there that great. InfinityWard could have a "PERFECT" map pack sent from god himself, and they still would take forever to release it.


Your nothing but a Treyarch fanboy. Keep enjoying your terrible FPS made by a terrible company.


Yeh so treyarch haven't done amazing with black ops but atleast they have tried to make it different to every over cod.


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