obviously hes real people who say he is not are going to hel

Just Added More Facts.

-Feckin

ttg_samuelll wrote obviously hes real people who say he is not are going to hel

Lol. Hell is not real. Heaven ain't ever.

Funneh wrote I was raised a Christian.
and... I'm now a Athiest.
Because I'm smart enough to realise fairy tales are not true...

These Aren't Fairy Tales Though i mean things Scientists Say Now a Days About Earth god and how it started are just dumb

-iSell

I Respect Every One's Beliefs and i do belive in such a thing As "god" But not in any human form, just a energy so powerful and amazingly intelligent.

My Opinion anyway, i not sure about a man that causes natural disasters and answers prayers here!!

Feckin wrote Just Added More Facts.

-Feckin

Nice dude 2020202020

iSell- wrote

Funneh wrote I was raised a Christian.
and... I'm now a Athiest.
Because I'm smart enough to realise fairy tales are not true...

These Aren't Fairy Tales Though i mean things Scientists Say Now a Days About Earth god and how it started are just dumb

-iSell

Dumb lol. They have proven evidence to back them up. Also how are they Dumb? There the smartest people on the Planet!
Albert Einstien was Athiest. I guess he's Dumb as well...

Funneh wrote

iSell- wrote

Funneh wrote I was raised a Christian.
and... I'm now a Athiest.
Because I'm smart enough to realise fairy tales are not true...

These Aren't Fairy Tales Though i mean things Scientists Say Now a Days About Earth god and how it started are just dumb

-iSell

Dumb lol. They have proven evidence to back them up. Also how are they Dumb? There the smartest people on the Planet!
Albert Einstien was Athiest. I guess he's Dumb as well...

If You Look At The Video He Just Posted Einstien did Believe in something that created The World and everyone on it (He Thought it was a Energy A All Knowing in Fact But Did not Believe in 1 Person a God If You Must Say) And Scientists Might Know A Lot Of Stuff but Religion is Not There Thing At All

why do you not beleve in him.

Feckin wrote I don't understand why people say God is not Real. I Mean i believe in people have different religions or not believing but i mean theres proof going toward he is.


1. How Could Humans Come to Be? OR Anything in that short. Science Says Earth Was Made From the Big Bang Theory. But That Could Be True But it can't show how humans were made that just proves The World Was. And How Could Tree's grow?..

2. For Most Religions. There is Almost no Proof That Goes Toward There God. When our God Has a Lot of Proof That Goes Toward Him.


3. Some Religions The god Requires The People To Do Biddings For Him Kill etc.


4. Most Of Gods Miracles (If You All) Are Logical. Not *He Gave This Guy 1 Million dollars to start His First Company!*

5. (Friend Thought This Would bring a Good Point.)
The "Big Bang" and Expanding Universe


It is now quite well established (as discovered by Edwin Hubble in 1929) that the universe is expanding sort of like a raising lump of dough, whereby every galaxy (like raisins in the dough) is getting further apart from the center and from all the other galaxies ...except this is happening at a speed of thousands of miles per hour. --In fact, the rate of expansion is increasing, and the best understanding today has the expansion going on forever (ref.: the "flat universe" model).

Now, if we "reverse the film" on the expanding universe, and go way back, we would end up with all the matter in the universe located in a small area, which would be the beginning point. Such a "beginning" which expands out to today's universe is compatible with what is presented in the Bible. The Bible starts out by saying, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1).
-- So, the best science confirms a "beginning" to the universe.

It should be noted that in Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew word for "created" ("bara") basically means a "creation from nothing," as something is brought into existence. A start from nothing, is a very good description of what cosmologists (such as Stephen Hawking) call a "singularity," which is the starting-point of the Big Bang.
---A "singularity" is: all the potential mass (matter), energy, and dimensions (including time) of the cosmos, reduced down to an infinitely small point of ZERO volume. -- Note, that the dimesions also started at the point of ZERO length.
---This same concept is brought out again in Hebrews 11:3 which declares that "the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible." The original starting-point for the universe was invisible, and had zero volume --just as the Bible teaches... as no other ancient writing does.

Furthermore: Cosmologists and physicists teach that matter, 3-dimensional space, and even time itself virtually did not exist before the Big Bang; (when God created them).
-- Here it is fascinating to NOTE: 1Corinthians 2:7, 2Timothy 1:9, and Titus 1:2 state that time itself (with all its eons and ages) had a "beginning." ---NO other ancient literature (particularly before the Bible) states that time had a beginning!

Then, having started from this "beginning" point, the Bible even says about God: "He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea" (Job 9:8); and "He stretches out the heavens like a tent" (Psalm 104:2); and "He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in" (Isa. 40:22); and "the Lord your Maker, who stretched out the heavens" (Isa. 51:13); ...there are about nine such biblical references. --Notice that God stretched the heavens out in the past, and some of those verses declare that He still "stretches" the universe out today!

This "beginning" from nothing, and the "spreading" or "stretching out" of the heavens (an excellent portrayal of the expanding universe due to the Big Bang since the instant God created the universe) are words of biblical prophets that were written from about 1500 BC. ---which is about 3000 years before Edwin Hubble discovered that the universe is expanding!



6."The attributes of the universe discovered by science point to the existence of God. Science leads us to the conclusion that the universe has a Creator and this Creator is perfect in might, wisdom and knowledge."



7.Scientists Have Confirmed And OPENED This Park Where They Have Found Proof Of Noahs Ark
At the Uzengili village, which is near the Dogubeyazit district is located the boat-shaped formation. Scientists from the U.S.A. have confirmed that it is Noah's Ark. The governor has announced that it is now a national park and open for tourists




8.Scientists As We Speak Are Look At The tomb Of Jesus
On March 28, 1980, just outside of Jerusalem in the neighborhood of Talpiyot, construction workers accidentally uncovered a 2000 year old cave holding 10 ossuaries. An ossuary is a burial box used to store bones. Six of the 10 ossuaries had names on them: "Jesus, son of Joseph; Maria; Mariamene; Matthew; Judas, son of Jesus; and Jose, a diminutive of Joseph."1 The allegation is that Jesua is Jesus, one of the Maries is his mother, the second is his wife, Mariamene is Mary Magdalene, that Matthew is a disciple, and Judas is Jesus' son; hence, the claim that it is the tomb of Jesus.



More Facts Will Be Added Later.

Obviously you haven't even studied Theory Of Evolution (TOE) well enough to understand a thing so don't act like you know **** about it. You say the big bang never happened but god was just there? So we just magically appeared because 'god' says so? Scientist don't aim JUST to prove religion wrong (It doesn't take much for that), you all just seem to think everything is wrong about evolution due to the fact that you all never read up on TOE or you have a bible shoved up your **** and that's all you seem to think with. No you will not be flamed for your "facts" because sadly enough, they aren't facts at all. Religion isn't a scientific hypothesis, you have to be able to test or experiment with a hypothesis for it to actually be a hypothesis, so you all have no validity behind your claims. With experiment you can make observations and be able to come up with a hypothesis or idea on many issues, which is what we did with the Big Band Theory. Also there is no facts going towards Catholics and Christians because you all can't even present evidence for his existence or for any other magical claims in the bible. Your god has no facts, neither do you. Could you give a few facts?

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Our God does not command us to kill ourselfs for him etc like some other gods do.


Are you kidding me? Your god commands or supposedly commands others to kill in the name of him. Don't even try to justify the christian god as a peaceful god. Ever heard of Crusades, Spanish inquisition, or the holocaust? WWII was in every meaningful sense a religious war. Hitler came to power, on the back of a message straight out of the Martin Luther playbook; he was consistently supported by the catholic church and his entourage was shot through with people (like himself) extolling the most absurd religious ideas and concepts imaginable. To talk about the historical question, its well established that Hitler was a catholic and remained a catholic, and I believe that was true for Mussolini as well. Its certainly true that they maintained strong ties with the church throughout the times, and one cannot but see a connection between Luthers On the Jews and their Lies in 1543 and the Nazis Final Solution.
French Wars of Religion


In 16th Century France there was a succession of wars between Roman Catholics and Protestants (Hugenots primarily). These series of wars were known as the Wars of Religion.

Thirty Years War and European wars of religion

In the first half of the 17th century, the German states, Scandinavia (Sweden, primarily) and Poland were beset by religious warfare. Roman Catholicism and Protestantism figured in the opposing sides of this conflict, though Catholic France did take the side of the Protestants but purely for political reasons.
[edit] Taiping Rebellion
Main article: Taiping Rebellion

Inspired by a formerly illegal Protestant missionary tract in China, the core of the Taiping faith focused on the belief that Shangdi, the high God of classical China, had chosen the Taiping leader, Hong Xiuquan, to establish his Heavenly Kingdom on Earth.

The Taiping rebels, professing this new creed, were able to mount their rebellion and recruit multitudes of followers in their sweep through the empire. The Taiping rebels denounced the divine pretensions of the imperial title and the sacred character of the imperial office as blasphemous usurpations of Shangdis title and position. In place of the imperial institution, the rebels called for a restoration of the classical system of kingship. Previous rebellions had declared their contemporary dynasties corrupt and therefore in need of revival; the Taiping, by contrast, branded the entire imperial order blasphemous and in need of replacement.

The Bible, in particular a Chinese translation of the Old Testament, profoundly influenced Hong and his followers, leading them to understand the first three of the Ten Commandments as an indictment of the imperial order. The rebels thus sought to destroy imperial culture, along with its institutions and Confucian underpinnings, all of which they regarded as blasphemous. Strongly iconoclastic, the Taiping followers smashed religious statues and imperially approved icons throughout the lands they conquered.

The Guinness Book of World Records calls this the "bloodiest civil war" with some 20 million estimated dead.

Please stop calling your ranting shit "Facts" because simply you haven't provided any evidence for anyone to be in favor of his existence.

2. For Most Religions. There is Almost no Proof That Goes Toward There God. When our God Has a Lot of Proof That Goes Toward Him.

Are you kidding? Your god has as much proof as any other god out there, and your god is one of the most disgusting gods in my opinion, if you haven't seen the wars that stemmed from religion.

3. Some Religions The god Requires The People To Do Biddings For Him Kill etc.

Include your god in that too bucko ;) (Please refer to intro)

4. Most Of Gods Miracles (If You All) Are Logical. Not *He Gave This Guy 1 Million dollars to start His First Company!*

His miracles aren't logical kid, where are you getting your information from? Your god is on the same footing as the toothfairy along with every other religion. You can't provide evidence for any of your claims so your god is on the same footing as every other god. There will never be any evidence for miracles or any other god for that matter. So stop throwing in all these false assertions that there is MORE proof for your god, when you all have none.
Since you seem to have so much proof you could win a million dollars from this website. (Yes this is real)
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Science does not confirm god created the universe, how about you get an education before posting all these false assertions about a god that doesn't even exist.

[quote]6."The attributes of the universe discovered by science point to the existence of God. Science leads us to the conclusion that the universe has a Creator and this Creator is perfect in might, wisdom and knowledge."[quote]
That is the most horrific straw man representation of true scientific theories, where did you learn this shit at? Science (if you can call it that) bible camp? Where every theory is just **** by god to make it seem like he actually exists. By the way I love your copy and paste's really show how intelligent you are when you don't even understand the concepts of what you are posting other than "GOD".

7.Scientists Have Confirmed And OPENED This Park Where They Have Found Proof Of Noahs Ark
At the Uzengili village, which is near the Dogubeyazit district is located the boat-shaped formation. Scientists from the U.S.A. have confirmed that it is Noah's Ark. The governor has announced that it is now a national park and open for tourists

There is no scientific evidence for a world wide flood, case closed on that one. Evidence against Noah's Ark: The Great Pyramid of Cheops was built about 2589-2566 BC, about 230 years before the flood, yet it has no water marks on it. The Djoser Step Pyramid at Saqqara, Egypt, built about 2630 BC doesn't show any signs of having been under water. Likewise for many other ancient structures. But even more importantly, the Egyptians have continuous historical records for hundreds of years before and after the time of the flood that make no mention of a great flood. This shows that they were not only not aware of a global flood, they certainly were not greatly affected by one. Outside of the Bible, there is no historical or physical evidence that would place a worldwide flood during the time period specified by the Bible for the great flood.

Where did the water needed for the flood come from? Where did it go? The atmosphere only holds enough moisture to account for about an inch of water worldwide. To cover even Mount Ararat, where Noah's Ark supposedly landed after the flood, in 40 days would require over 400 feet of water per day. That's not 400 inches, but 400 feet a day. And Everest would require 725 feet per day - that's 30 feet of water per hour! Some claim that the mountains didn't exist before the flood. But even Bible speaks of great mountains in the time before the flood. Were these great mountains mentioned in the Bible only a few feet high?

Some propose a massive vapor canopy existed in the times before the flood. But, the pressure at the base of such a canopy would be so high that it would need to have a temperature of over 500 degrees Fahrenheit. Any cooler and it would come down as rain.

8.Scientists As We Speak Are Look At The tomb Of Jesus
On March 28, 1980, just outside of Jerusalem in the neighborhood of Talpiyot, construction workers accidentally uncovered a 2000 year old cave holding 10 ossuaries. An ossuary is a burial box used to store bones. Six of the 10 ossuaries had names on them: "Jesus, son of Joseph; Maria; Mariamene; Matthew; Judas, son of Jesus; and Jose, a diminutive of Joseph."1 The allegation is that Jesua is Jesus, one of the Maries is his mother, the second is his wife, Mariamene is Mary Magdalene, that Matthew is a disciple, and Judas is Jesus' son; hence, the claim that it is the tomb of Jesus.

Do you have any **** idea what you are talking about? Just a copy and paste? "scientist as we speak are look at the tomb of jesus?" who told you how to word that out? Maybe you didn't copy and paste that by your grammar. Anybody can did a **** grave up and call it jesus, and that's still no proof for god; so stop trying kid.

More Facts Will Be Added Later

It should be "More False Assertions To Be Added Later"


You have to be about the worst apologist knowing that you have to copy and past everything because your grammar in your last post definitely shows that you copy and pasted. Get an education kid, and then we can debate.