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Thier Are Just Some Facts Out Thier That God Just Doesint Want Us To Know.
We Will Just See When We Die.
Even If Were In Heaven
Or Hell.
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We Will Just See When We Die.
Even If Were In Heaven
Or Hell.
I Will Always Beleven God.
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Yeah But You still have to respect other peoples Religious views.
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This Is Confusing
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Feckin wrote I don't understand why people say God is not Real. I Mean i believe in people have different religions or not believing but i mean theres proof going toward he is.
1. How Could Humans Come to Be? OR Anything in that short. Science Says Earth Was Made From the Big Bang Theory. But That Could Be True But it can't show how humans were made that just proves The World Was. And How Could Tree's grow?..
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAH no. It's chemical reactions, laws whatever. It's simple and you can't be like that. "hey mate, how were trees made?" "GOD GOD DID IT... HUNGH IT WAS GOD, YOU CANNOT EXPLAIN IT EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN I WILL DISPROVE IT WITH GOD. GOD GOD GOD."
2. For Most Religions. There is Almost no Proof That Goes Toward There God. When our God Has a Lot of Proof That Goes Toward Him.
[b] religion is a book, and has no proof.
3. Some Religions The god Requires The People To Do Biddings For Him Kill etc.
the Christian bible contains lots of killing. LOTS. God orders two bears to rip apart forty two kids, and to dash infants and rip apart pregnant women.
4. Most Of Gods Miracles (If You All) Are Logical. Not *He Gave This Guy 1 Million dollars to start His First Company!*
Yes it's so logical Jesus walks on water, despite no logical explanation
5. (Friend Thought This Would bring a Good Point.)
The "Big Bang" and Expanding Universe
It is now quite well established (as discovered by Edwin Hubble in 1929) that the universe is expanding sort of like a raising lump of dough, whereby every galaxy (like raisins in the dough) is getting further apart from the center and from all the other galaxies ...except this is happening at a speed of thousands of miles per hour. --In fact, the rate of expansion is increasing, and the best understanding today has the expansion going on forever (ref.: the "flat universe" model).
Now, if we "reverse the film" on the expanding universe, and go way back, we would end up with all the matter in the universe located in a small area, which would be the beginning point. Such a "beginning" which expands out to today's universe is compatible with what is presented in the Bible. The Bible starts out by saying, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1).
-- So, the best science confirms a "beginning" to the universe.
It should be noted that in Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew word for "created" ("bara") basically means a "creation from nothing," as something is brought into existence. A start from nothing, is a very good description of what cosmologists (such as Stephen Hawking) call a "singularity," which is the starting-point of the Big Bang.
---A "singularity" is: all the potential mass (matter), energy, and dimensions (including time) of the cosmos, reduced down to an infinitely small point of ZERO volume. -- Note, that the dimesions also started at the point of ZERO length.
---This same concept is brought out again in Hebrews 11:3 which declares that "the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible." The original starting-point for the universe was invisible, and had zero volume --just as the Bible teaches... as no other ancient writing does.
Furthermore: Cosmologists and physicists teach that matter, 3-dimensional space, and even time itself virtually did not exist before the Big Bang; (when God created them).
-- Here it is fascinating to NOTE: 1Corinthians 2:7, 2Timothy 1:9, and Titus 1:2 state that time itself (with all its eons and ages) had a "beginning." ---NO other ancient literature (particularly before the Bible) states that time had a beginning!
Then, having started from this "beginning" point, the Bible even says about God: "He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea" (Job 9:8); and "He stretches out the heavens like a tent" (Psalm 104:2); and "He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in" (Isa. 40:22); and "the Lord your Maker, who stretched out the heavens" (Isa. 51:13); ...there are about nine such biblical references. --Notice that God stretched the heavens out in the past, and some of those verses declare that He still "stretches" the universe out today!
This "beginning" from nothing, and the "spreading" or "stretching out" of the heavens (an excellent portrayal of the expanding universe due to the Big Bang since the instant God created the universe) are words of biblical prophets that were written from about 1500 BC. ---which is about 3000 years before Edwin Hubble discovered that the universe is expanding!
I don't get the point of this...
6."The attributes of the universe discovered by science point to the existence of God. Science leads us to the conclusion that the universe has a Creator and this Creator is perfect in might, wisdom and knowledge."
Science leads us astray... science taught us the big bang.
7.Scientists Have Confirmed And OPENED This Park Where They Have Found Proof Of Noahs Ark
At the Uzengili village, which is near the Dogubeyazit district is located the boat-shaped formation. Scientists from the U.S.A. have confirmed that it is Noah's Ark. The governor has announced that it is now a national park and open for tourists
'If there had been a flood capable of lifting a huge ship 4km up the side of a mountain 4,800 years ago, I think there would be substantial geological evidence for this flood around the world. And there isn't.'
8.Scientists As We Speak Are Look At The tomb Of Jesus
On March 28, 1980, just outside of Jerusalem in the neighborhood of Talpiyot, construction workers accidentally uncovered a 2000 year old cave holding 10 ossuaries. An ossuary is a burial box used to store bones. Six of the 10 ossuaries had names on them: "Jesus, son of Joseph; Maria; Mariamene; Matthew; Judas, son of Jesus; and Jose, a diminutive of Joseph."1 The allegation is that Jesua is Jesus, one of the Maries is his mother, the second is his wife, Mariamene is Mary Magdalene, that Matthew is a disciple, and Judas is Jesus' son; hence, the claim that it is the tomb of Jesus.
That's easily a coincidence and it isn't 'evidence' until proven otherwise
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Einstein and Newton were two of the most influential men of science from the past, and even though they did not fully understand how the Universe came about, they each in their own way sensed the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe!
Albert Einstein who was a theoretical physicist, philosopher and author is widely regarded as one of the most influential and best known scientists and intellectuals of all time. He is considered to be the father of modern physics, who was quoted as saying;
"That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God."
Sir Isaac Newton was an English physicist, mathematician, astronomer, natural philosopher, alchemist, and theologian who has been considered by many scholars and members of the general public to be one of the most influential people in human history, who was quoted as saying;
"This most beautiful system [The Universe] could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being."
Since Galileo first turned his telescope to the night sky mankind has been embarked upon an insatiable quest to the stars!
The Hubble telescope has now uncovered the Greatest Drama in human history that takes us to the core of our very existence! Since its launch in 1990 it has captured the Greatest Cinematic Drama in human history and mankind is now witnessing a real-life drama unfolding like a silent motion picture transmitted from spaceone frame at a time, with each frame telling its own awe-inspiring story; yet, collectively, they recite the Grandest Story ever told: the formation of an awe-inspiring Universe in detail never before revealed.
For a moment consider this amazing historical fact. Around the year 732 BCE an invitation recorded in the Bible to investigate the stars was extended to humanity to find an equal to the one responsible for all the stars. Twenty four hundred years before the invention of the telescope these words were recorded and give us greater reasons today than ever before to investigate their implications.
"To whom will you compare me? Who is my equal?" ask the Holy One. "Look up into the heavens. Who created all the stars? He brings them out like an army, one after another, calling each by its name. Because of his great power and incomparable strength, not a single one is missing."
__ Isaiah 40:25,26 732 BCE
This ancient text raises a very intriguing question; has man set out on this insatiable quest to the stars on his own or is he being drawn along by the one who created all the stars to show us His incomprehensible power, Supreme Imagination, and prove to all of humanity he has no equal?
This ancient passage confirmed thousands of years before the telescope was invented that there existed an incomprehensible power source behind the universe. Only in the last few decades has science obtained hard evidence of this fact about the universe via sophisticated flying space telescopes like NASA's Hubble and Spitzer.
This historically advance information about the incomprehensible power behind the universe is an undeniable truth that cannot be ignored, even by men of science!
One such example of this power is the Sombrero Galaxy photographed a few years ago by Hubble, where it is thought to be some 50,000 light-years across (about half the diameter of our Milky Way galaxy), yet containing some 800 billion stars.
Keep in mind this is only one of over 125 billion galaxies, (with each containing billions of stars) thought to be in the known universe. The all-inclusive incomprehensible energy that powers all the heavenly bodies in the Universe is a power (as Isaiah accurately stated) beyond man's ability to understand. The only word in our human vocabulary that comes close to describe such power is the word, Supernatural!
How could Isaiah gain access to such scientifically accurate information about this incomprehensible energy source some 2,700 years before it was revealed by the Hubble telescope? There is one logical explanation. The One with the power and wisdom to create the heavens and the earth could certainly give Isaiah such advanced knowledge. This gives weight to the Bible's claim that it is "inspired of God."2 Timothy 3:16.
Truth Is; that which conforms to fact or reality! What Isaiah recorded about this incomprehensible power in 732 BCE, long before anyone knew the universe or this power existed is a historical and factual document supported by archeology, and historical records.
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I'm not reading all this
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honestly ive been on this topic for a while and i cant convey my message to certain people. i think that someone knows who they are but this is what i mean as a clearing statement. i can care less if you do or do not believe in GOD as long as you dont try and persuade me to believe there isnt which way to many people do here on a tech site which is fine but when all of your posts are on the conspiracy board thats a bit weird. anyways no matter how much evidence science has its still not the truth. i have to admit science does have its answers which i have more clearly assessed recently but you still cannot say your 100 percent sure. no matter the ratio it can never be a full percentage on one half. so dont tell me you know theres not a GOD tell me i dont believe in a GOD. as for the thread it is not as great as it seems but you cant just throw all this away. i guarantee you theres and answer in here that explains more then we know of. Also dont refer to the bible (this goes to both sides) i believe its actually false considering its been corrupted throughout the years, go look up the history of the bible as well and then youd understand why its not a reliable source. like the noahs ark story there may not be geological evidence for three reasons. a miracle, (least likely) science being wrong (were human its only right that we would be wrong no matter how many people agree but its still less likely) or the direction of our knowledge being wrong meaning the bible was wrong and maybe the flood had different features or nothing that would leave a mark on the world. its hard to understand but i think the bible over exaggerates but theres still proof in scriptures that people are always asking me show me then but they dont understand i cant laminate a piece of history go do research and if not that go to israel where i was informed of this anyway thats it please dont flame and if i got another 10 page reply im not going to bother because people need to learn i can give to shxts about what they have to say.
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its simple hes there if he wasnt how would we? if matter cannot be created or destroyed how is the earth here scientists would probablly have you believe that it simply doesnt exist and were all just fake on another note i think its semi entertainging that you posted your reason to believe in god in the conspiracy bord lol
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This is a gaming site, Not a place to prove god exists... :facepalm:
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1.- Why don't you do a little research on what you're talking about before saying it is not true? What you said is completely wrong. Science says MATTER was created from the Big Bang theory, not the earth. Gravity and some physic laws that I will not mention sinc you would not understand and this post would be too long for you to read made the galaxy, earth, sun, other planets, etc.
And the theory that explains how life was created is called Abiogenesis. Together, Abiogenesis, The Big Bang Theory and Evolution explain all your questions, with LOGICAL thoughts and answers, unlike saying 'I can't explain this so an imaginary man living in the sky (Which we already passed... Where was he? Did the spacecrafts kill him?) did it.
2.- What...? Can you please type correctly?
3.- So? I'm not getting your point... Also, a useful link: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
All religions create fanatism, and fanatism in most cases means death, destruction, and/or intolerance. ALL religions are bad, not just a few.
4.- Yeah, because killing the whole Egiptian society instead of simply freeing the jews was logical.
5.- I could addapt everything and say it means this thing, when in fact it doesn't. I find it idiotic how at first you guys said no to science, then you say religion actually said what science said. Bullshit.
6.- What the hell are you talking about? Science has disproved god SO many times it is unbelievable you guys keep on saying this.
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7.- Noah did not travel enough time to get to Turkey... Nor was his story true. I'll tell you what happened:
Noah was a shaman who lived in Israel, in a small city near the ocean, nearly 8,000 years ago. Are you familiar with Mt Edna? It is Europe's most active volcano. Its top builds up every year due to the ashes, and 8,000 years ago (In Noah's time), it collapsed, causing a huge tsunami which destroyed the city where he lived. He survived it, and told people. The rumor spread, and yeah... That's the actual story, proven by science. There's a documentary on it, I can find it for you if you're interested.
8.- There is no proof Jesus even excisted, let alone be god and his son at the same time. That tomb can be anything, and where is your credible source, and how did thy date it? Carbon dating cannot be so exact for such a small period of time.
9.- That's an ad for a book... What's your point? It doesn't show anything.
10.- Neither Einstein nor Newton believe in god, Einstein went as far to say that science was his god. Gallileo was forced to say what he said was not true, he didn't believe in god either.
11.- Obviously not... Look, matter floating around space atracts each other, due to basic electric laws. The Universe was created at the same time matter was created, therefore the earth was created billions of years after that. All the components of the earth were floating by themselves at some point, and they atracted each other and started to build up. Same with every other body in the universe; gravity has a huge role in everything.
And the theory that explains how life was created is called Abiogenesis. Together, Abiogenesis, The Big Bang Theory and Evolution explain all your questions, with LOGICAL thoughts and answers, unlike saying 'I can't explain this so an imaginary man living in the sky (Which we already passed... Where was he? Did the spacecrafts kill him?) did it.
2.- What...? Can you please type correctly?
3.- So? I'm not getting your point... Also, a useful link: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
All religions create fanatism, and fanatism in most cases means death, destruction, and/or intolerance. ALL religions are bad, not just a few.
4.- Yeah, because killing the whole Egiptian society instead of simply freeing the jews was logical.
5.- I could addapt everything and say it means this thing, when in fact it doesn't. I find it idiotic how at first you guys said no to science, then you say religion actually said what science said. Bullshit.
6.- What the hell are you talking about? Science has disproved god SO many times it is unbelievable you guys keep on saying this.
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7.- Noah did not travel enough time to get to Turkey... Nor was his story true. I'll tell you what happened:
Noah was a shaman who lived in Israel, in a small city near the ocean, nearly 8,000 years ago. Are you familiar with Mt Edna? It is Europe's most active volcano. Its top builds up every year due to the ashes, and 8,000 years ago (In Noah's time), it collapsed, causing a huge tsunami which destroyed the city where he lived. He survived it, and told people. The rumor spread, and yeah... That's the actual story, proven by science. There's a documentary on it, I can find it for you if you're interested.
8.- There is no proof Jesus even excisted, let alone be god and his son at the same time. That tomb can be anything, and where is your credible source, and how did thy date it? Carbon dating cannot be so exact for such a small period of time.
9.- That's an ad for a book... What's your point? It doesn't show anything.
10.- Neither Einstein nor Newton believe in god, Einstein went as far to say that science was his god. Gallileo was forced to say what he said was not true, he didn't believe in god either.
11.- Obviously not... Look, matter floating around space atracts each other, due to basic electric laws. The Universe was created at the same time matter was created, therefore the earth was created billions of years after that. All the components of the earth were floating by themselves at some point, and they atracted each other and started to build up. Same with every other body in the universe; gravity has a huge role in everything.
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TTGxLEGEND wrote its simple hes there if he wasnt how would we? if matter cannot be created or destroyed how is the earth here scientists would probablly have you believe that it simply doesnt exist and were all just fake on another note i think its semi entertainging that you posted your reason to believe in god in the conspiracy bord lol
How was god created?
And the earth didn't just appear, dumb ass it was formed by the big bang.
On the side of atheism or not... just thought I'd point it out.
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ValorDesigns wrote honestly ive been on this topic for a while and i cant convey my message to certain people. i think that someone knows who they are but this is what i mean as a clearing statement. i can care less if you do or do not believe in GOD as long as you dont try and persuade me to believe there isnt which way to many people do here on a tech site which is fine but when all of your posts are on the conspiracy board thats a bit weird. anyways no matter how much evidence science has its still not the truth. i have to admit science does have its answers which i have more clearly assessed recently but you still cannot say your 100 percent sure. no matter the ratio it can never be a full percentage on one half. so dont tell me you know theres not a GOD tell me i dont believe in a GOD. as for the thread it is not as great as it seems but you cant just throw all this away. i guarantee you theres and answer in here that explains more then we know of. Also dont refer to the bible (this goes to both sides) i believe its actually false considering its been corrupted throughout the years, go look up the history of the bible as well and then youd understand why its not a reliable source. like the noahs ark story there may not be geological evidence for three reasons. a miracle, (least likely) science being wrong (were human its only right that we would be wrong no matter how many people agree but its still less likely) or the direction of our knowledge being wrong meaning the bible was wrong and maybe the flood had different features or nothing that would leave a mark on the world. its hard to understand but i think the bible over exaggerates but theres still proof in scriptures that people are always asking me show me then but they dont understand i cant laminate a piece of history go do research and if not that go to israel where i was informed of this anyway thats it please dont flame and if i got another 10 page reply im not going to bother because people need to learn i can give to shxts about what they have to say.
No one here is saying you can't believe in a god, how simple is that? I'm atheist along with other members on this site, we backup our beliefs or lack-thereof. No one is saying you're not aloud to believe in a god, they are simply stating their opinions. Everybody has a right to their opinion. Also please search up how reliable those so called "scriptures" are? In all honesty I don't think scriptures years ago would amount to all the knowledge we have today, or prove that god exists. I couldn't understand that part about a "miracle" but are you stating that there is no evidence for it because of a "miracle"?
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