MicrowaveZombie wrote Here is a short list of reasons why BF runs 30 fps on consoles
-There are vehicles
-Huge maps
-Great graphics
-Destruction of buildings

If you want battlefield to run on 60fps on console ( even tho you can't tell the difference ) You need to deduce all vehicles to 1 or none , Make the maps smaller , make the graphics worse and remove 90% of the destruction...
If that's done you get basically call of duty AND NO ONE WANTS THAT
So stop saying " MW3 RUNZ ON 60FPS HERP DERP " , NO ONE CARES

Also comparing CoD to BF is like comparing Fifa to Madden ...

Missing the entire point of the post, it is stating facts between the two games because both sides BF fanboy's, and COD fanboy's were spamming each other's sections with hate. Thought i put together a list of the facts so everyone can stop crying over which game is better.

battlefield will always look and be better than call of duty. Im not saying call of duty is bad as i like it alot

I still think that BattleField and MW3 are going to have close arguments...

4. It isnt a beta
5. ITS a beta...

Great load of sense that made...

To be honest I think your no 1 reason isnt a very good reason.
And this is what I think. What will you get bored of quicker? My guess is bf3. Iv been playing mw2 since it came out and I will also be playing mw3 for years.

ArcadeShow wrote So I decided to involve myself in this mainly because I was tired of seeing people crying about the beta. To anyone that says that Battlefield 3 is bad here's the stats about the beta and full game.

Battlefield 3 beta:
1.)isn't running in 1080i, it's currently in 720p
2.)run's at 30 Fps
3.)isn't a beta, it's an alpha with online capabilities(thus some of the bugs)
4.)IT's a "Beta", not a single beta is perfect

Okay now the facts on MW3:
1.)1080i, but not full HD.
2.)Run's at 60 Fps
3.)It's Beta was a paid non public event.
4.)Is extremely over hyped MW2 add-on(doesn't mean it's bad)

Now the comparisons:

BF3's 30 Fps to MW3's 60:
To anyone that thinks this is a difference they are mistaken. Most games that claim they are 60 Fps actually drop frames a lot more then games that are 30. So in fact MW3 is only going to be an average of 30-40 Fps. Now 60 to 30 Fps is literally 1/60th of a second difference, so if something happens in BF3 it would have happened one frame sooner in MW3, which the human eye can't distinguish.

Full HD(BF3) VS. 1080i(Non Full HD) MW3

Because of the process in which they make the game MW3 won't be full HD, the game is built in a lower format then ported over to HD by a special process. Battlefield 3 is built and designed in 1080p, and will be ported over to Full HD in the retail game As well.

Finally:

I'm no fan boy of either I play both a great bit, and am good at both (Ranked #5 in my state in black ops, #8 MW2, #3 Cod4.) I play CoD much more then BF3 but honestly this game is by far more balanced, and better looking then cod will ever be, the movement system is extremely realistic. The number one reason BF3 will be better then CoD, you can see your legs when you look down at the ground.

*NO FLAMING, THIS IS FOR INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION ONLY!*

Despite what you say, you still sound like a MW3 hater. And why should call of duty change a formula thats working.

DeadlyDasher wrote

ArcadeShow wrote So I decided to involve myself in this mainly because I was tired of seeing people crying about the beta. To anyone that says that Battlefield 3 is bad here's the stats about the beta and full game.

Battlefield 3 beta:
1.)isn't running in 1080i, it's currently in 720p
2.)run's at 30 Fps
3.)isn't a beta, it's an alpha with online capabilities(thus some of the bugs)
4.)IT's a "Beta", not a single beta is perfect

Okay now the facts on MW3:
1.)1080i, but not full HD.
2.)Run's at 60 Fps
3.)It's Beta was a paid non public event.
4.)Is extremely over hyped MW2 add-on(doesn't mean it's bad)

Now the comparisons:

BF3's 30 Fps to MW3's 60:
To anyone that thinks this is a difference they are mistaken. Most games that claim they are 60 Fps actually drop frames a lot more then games that are 30. So in fact MW3 is only going to be an average of 30-40 Fps. Now 60 to 30 Fps is literally 1/60th of a second difference, so if something happens in BF3 it would have happened one frame sooner in MW3, which the human eye can't distinguish.

Full HD(BF3) VS. 1080i(Non Full HD) MW3

Because of the process in which they make the game MW3 won't be full HD, the game is built in a lower format then ported over to HD by a special process. Battlefield 3 is built and designed in 1080p, and will be ported over to Full HD in the retail game As well.

Finally:

I'm no fan boy of either I play both a great bit, and am good at both (Ranked #5 in my state in black ops, #8 MW2, #3 Cod4.) I play CoD much more then BF3 but honestly this game is by far more balanced, and better looking then cod will ever be, the movement system is extremely realistic. The number one reason BF3 will be better then CoD, you can see your legs when you look down at the ground.

*NO FLAMING, THIS IS FOR INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION ONLY!*

Despite what you say, you still sound like a MW3 hater. And why should call of duty change a formula thats working.

He isn't saying that they need to change anything. He is just stating facts. As long as all the kiddies keep getting their mothers to buy the same game every year for them then of course they wont change anything.

Its pretty much the same every year. Copy and paste of COD4 with new maps.

i agree but people don't understand this.

Terrian123 wrote

DeadlyDasher wrote

ArcadeShow wrote So I decided to involve myself in this mainly because I was tired of seeing people crying about the beta. To anyone that says that Battlefield 3 is bad here's the stats about the beta and full game.

Battlefield 3 beta:
1.)isn't running in 1080i, it's currently in 720p
2.)run's at 30 Fps
3.)isn't a beta, it's an alpha with online capabilities(thus some of the bugs)
4.)IT's a "Beta", not a single beta is perfect

Okay now the facts on MW3:
1.)1080i, but not full HD.
2.)Run's at 60 Fps
3.)It's Beta was a paid non public event.
4.)Is extremely over hyped MW2 add-on(doesn't mean it's bad)

Now the comparisons:

BF3's 30 Fps to MW3's 60:
To anyone that thinks this is a difference they are mistaken. Most games that claim they are 60 Fps actually drop frames a lot more then games that are 30. So in fact MW3 is only going to be an average of 30-40 Fps. Now 60 to 30 Fps is literally 1/60th of a second difference, so if something happens in BF3 it would have happened one frame sooner in MW3, which the human eye can't distinguish.

Full HD(BF3) VS. 1080i(Non Full HD) MW3

Because of the process in which they make the game MW3 won't be full HD, the game is built in a lower format then ported over to HD by a special process. Battlefield 3 is built and designed in 1080p, and will be ported over to Full HD in the retail game As well.

Finally:

I'm no fan boy of either I play both a great bit, and am good at both (Ranked #5 in my state in black ops, #8 MW2, #3 Cod4.) I play CoD much more then BF3 but honestly this game is by far more balanced, and better looking then cod will ever be, the movement system is extremely realistic. The number one reason BF3 will be better then CoD, you can see your legs when you look down at the ground.

*NO FLAMING, THIS IS FOR INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION ONLY!*

Despite what you say, you still sound like a MW3 hater. And why should call of duty change a formula thats working.

He isn't saying that they need to change anything. He is just stating facts. As long as all the kiddies keep getting their mothers to buy the same game every year for them then of course they wont change anything.

Its pretty much the same every year. Copy and paste of COD4 with new maps.

Ofc its the same every year (with different maps, perks, equipment,attachments,features,weapons)...why change a formula thats working?
And i guess you dont know how good of a game COD4 was...i would love for this game to be cod 4 with new maps, perks, weapons, equipment, whatever. Because the graphics are fine.

Why do you think people still played old games like counter strike despite their graphics? Because their fun.

Terrian123 wrote

DeadlyDasher wrote

ArcadeShow wrote So I decided to involve myself in this mainly because I was tired of seeing people crying about the beta. To anyone that says that Battlefield 3 is bad here's the stats about the beta and full game.

Battlefield 3 beta:
1.)isn't running in 1080i, it's currently in 720p
2.)run's at 30 Fps
3.)isn't a beta, it's an alpha with online capabilities(thus some of the bugs)
4.)IT's a "Beta", not a single beta is perfect

Okay now the facts on MW3:
1.)1080i, but not full HD.
2.)Run's at 60 Fps
3.)It's Beta was a paid non public event.
4.)Is extremely over hyped MW2 add-on(doesn't mean it's bad)

Now the comparisons:

BF3's 30 Fps to MW3's 60:
To anyone that thinks this is a difference they are mistaken. Most games that claim they are 60 Fps actually drop frames a lot more then games that are 30. So in fact MW3 is only going to be an average of 30-40 Fps. Now 60 to 30 Fps is literally 1/60th of a second difference, so if something happens in BF3 it would have happened one frame sooner in MW3, which the human eye can't distinguish.

Full HD(BF3) VS. 1080i(Non Full HD) MW3

Because of the process in which they make the game MW3 won't be full HD, the game is built in a lower format then ported over to HD by a special process. Battlefield 3 is built and designed in 1080p, and will be ported over to Full HD in the retail game As well.

Finally:

I'm no fan boy of either I play both a great bit, and am good at both (Ranked #5 in my state in black ops, #8 MW2, #3 Cod4.) I play CoD much more then BF3 but honestly this game is by far more balanced, and better looking then cod will ever be, the movement system is extremely realistic. The number one reason BF3 will be better then CoD, you can see your legs when you look down at the ground.

*NO FLAMING, THIS IS FOR INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION ONLY!*

Despite what you say, you still sound like a MW3 hater. And why should call of duty change a formula thats working.

He isn't saying that they need to change anything. He is just stating facts. As long as all the kiddies keep getting their mothers to buy the same game every year for them then of course they wont change anything.

Its pretty much the same every year. Copy and paste of COD4 with new maps.

Oh and do you know why people liked halo 2 way more then 3? Because bungie listened to people like you and changed the game way to much.