jimmy1993 wrote

TauntzE wrote The army is for protecting others. They don't just mindlessly bomb other countries either. America uses it's forces for the better good of the world by ridding other countries of their tyrants and dictators.

Since 1945 the united states has attempted to
Overthrow more than 50 foreign governments
In the process the us has caused the end of life
For several million people, and condemned many millions
More to a live of agony and despair

-lowkey quote.

The reasons behind overthowing those governments? They were corrupt and the people needed help. Innocent may have died in the progress but for the better good of the people of the present and future.

TauntzE wrote

jimmy1993 wrote

TauntzE wrote The army is for protecting others. They don't just mindlessly bomb other countries either. America uses it's forces for the better good of the world by ridding other countries of their tyrants and dictators.

Since 1945 the united states has attempted to
Overthrow more than 50 foreign governments
In the process the us has caused the end of life
For several million people, and condemned many millions
More to a live of agony and despair

-lowkey quote.

The reasons behind overthowing those governments? They were corrupt and the people needed help. Innocent may have died in the progress but for the better good of the people of the present and future.

in what way is it for the better good ? america goes to "war" with other countries not to benefit the people there or the people in america but to benefit its self. they couldnt care less about the civilians or people, otherwise they might be more careful when dropping bombs or shooting weapons. dont get me wrong i dont necessarily blame the soldiers out their, because lots of them get the wrong message when they become a soldier, they pretty much get told they are heros and fighting for their country, and they will never get told what they or what the government do is wrong, and in the heat of the battle where the young soldiers life my be at risk, if a person high in the ranks tells them to do something they will do it out of fear anyway because they will think either thats the only way to survive or that because they are higher in the ranks that it must be the right thing to do.

thats why i mainly blame the people in charge and that are in higher positions. they command the troops, and tell them what to do.
the main reason america invaded was 9/11, but the thing is all america needed was a reason to invade in the first place. what did america lose out of 9/11 ? nothing, in fact due to building 7 collapsing ( by its self may i add ) in 911 they made a profit.
so with the reason now had to invade they went and did it, but bin laden didnt admit or say that he had done 911. america its self jumped to that conclusion, mainly because the government first come out with it, because al qaeda would obviously be the prime target to be blamed. but you have to think could they really be capable of doing that ? remember the weapons they have in the first place is due to the fact america provided them with them.

also you have to think, how sophisticated and well executed the 911 attacks was. could bin laden really be capable of doing such a thing. dont think about if he would or wouldnt, just the fact could he actually of pulled it off. imo i dont think so. it seemed to thought out, and to well executed to be him, its just as soon as it happen the blame went straight to him, because he was the obvious candidate, due to the fact america hated him as it was anyway, so was this not the perfect reason to invade ?

also not a great deal of investigation went into it did there ? people just seemed to settle for the government saying this was al qaeda, and the majority didnt ask or think anymore of it. people just tend to not think things through, or look at the facts.

jimmy1993 wrote

TTG_Chad wrote Terrorism- the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

America is making terrorism worse huh? So since we have been in the middle has there been another disaster like 9/11?

We stay in other countries to prevent them from happening again. We are instilling a democracy in a country that formerly had a dictatorship.

You make it sound as if America kills civilians on purpose. False the Armed forces do not condone that.

The idea of a military IS to protect their country. Now tell me, Since we have been in the middle east, has there been another attack in America? No there has not.

Soldiers who die over there ARE heroes. They are the only thing between you and death. Terrorists want you dead, you know.

abu ghraib was a series of poor choices of individuals. you cannot base your judgment on the actions of a couple of stupid actions.

What the american army does is Heroic. You are just ignorant. But most of all, you just dont understand.

so america isnt being violent or threatening at all are they ?
and when was the previous attack before 9/11 ? the government just brainwash people to believe what their doing is good.

you already said about another attack, and well but isnt it americas fault for letting the people into the country in the first place.

and basically what your saying if it wasnt for the army there would be terrorist attacts everyday ? dont be stupid. not all terrorists just "want you dead" but your wrapped rounf the government little finger so you believe what they say. most of them do it because making a stand for something.

and yeh thats was just one example but it happens all the time, like soldiers raping civilians and so on.

and its not heroic at all, you just only hear the good side of the army and only want to believe that then obviously dont you. have a look at wikileaks, and looks at all the leaks files.

So basically you want no war and 9/11 to happen again? I really don't know what else to say besides that..

LikeBots wrote So basically you want no war and 9/11 to happen again? I really don't know what else to say besides that..

thats not what i have said, but seriously when has anything like 911 ever happened before ? people always refer to this, read my last post to, that might help. but america just jumped to the conclusion that the country they invaded was the country that did the deed. america just needed a reason to invade and that was a perfect one. 911 was blown out of proportion, and people seem to make out if america didnt invade, then 911 would be happening on a weekly basis. going to their country and completely screwing them over i really dont think will "fix" it like you all seem to think it will. i think it will only cause more problems and more hatred towards america meaning in fact more things like this in the future are likely to happen. because lots of annoyed people who have had family members killed for no reason, or they homes destroyed or been kicked out of their home will build a hatred against america and maybe think about joining groups like al qaeda to stand for their country and fight back.

how can a country really say they are there to help when they kills hundreds of thousands of innocent people, kick them out or destroy their homes. the people there will recognise that the so called "help" that is suppose to be given is really causing more destruction and death

If it weren't for the military, you wouldn't be posting this right now. You're just some punk *** little kid who thinks that you can do whatever you want because you live in the united states, which is wrong. If it weren't for the military, we would probably be under foreign rule right now. Rule that could strip us of all of our rights. The reason why you can be a little ***** who probably cringes at the sight of his own shadow is because others protect you.

gtfo if you live in the us or uk move now there fuighting for our freedom they attacked us and we brought the world to them before it escalated in our homeland i hate kids like you ive lost family to the war trying to protect losers like you i dont have a mom!!!! GTFO

okay i get where your coming from BUT if they didnt go to other countries then they would bomb us and invade our country! So were preventing them so stop being an ignorant F*****

jimmy1993 wrote

TTG_Chad wrote Terrorism- the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

America is making terrorism worse huh? So since we have been in the middle has there been another disaster like 9/11?

We stay in other countries to prevent them from happening again. We are instilling a democracy in a country that formerly had a dictatorship.

You make it sound as if America kills civilians on purpose. False the Armed forces do not condone that.

The idea of a military IS to protect their country. Now tell me, Since we have been in the middle east, has there been another attack in America? No there has not.

Soldiers who die over there ARE heroes. They are the only thing between you and death. Terrorists want you dead, you know.

abu ghraib was a series of poor choices of individuals. you cannot base your judgment on the actions of a couple of stupid actions.

What the american army does is Heroic. You are just ignorant. But most of all, you just dont understand.

so america isnt being violent or threatening at all are they ?
and when was the previous attack before 9/11 ? the government just brainwash people to believe what their doing is good.

you already said about another attack, and well but isnt it americas fault for letting the people into the country in the first place.

and basically what your saying if it wasnt for the army there would be terrorist attacts everyday ? dont be stupid. not all terrorists just "want you dead" but your wrapped rounf the government little finger so you believe what they say. most of them do it because making a stand for something.

and yeh thats was just one example but it happens all the time, like soldiers raping civilians and so on.

and its not heroic at all, you just only hear the good side of the army and only want to believe that then obviously dont you. have a look at wikileaks, and looks at all the leaks files.

You cannot seriously believe what you are saying - surely?

Forget-Me-Not-Fanboy wrote If it weren't for the military, you wouldn't be posting this right now. You're just some punk *** little kid who thinks that you can do whatever you want because you live in the united states, which is wrong. If it weren't for the military, we would probably be under foreign rule right now. Rule that could strip us of all of our rights. The reason why you can be a little ***** who probably cringes at the sight of his own shadow is because others protect you.

did you read any of my other posts ? lets get this straight. im not AGAINST the military in general, im not saying having a military is a bad thing, its when the people in charge start to abuse their power and think they can do what ever they please because they ARE NOT the ones fighting the battle or wars the just call for young men to go and do their dirty work for them. do you think they care if a soldier dies ? no. do you think they care if they screw over another country ? no. you get my point. they and do it to benefit them self. soon as they get any amount of power they abuse it to no extent. and if you did read any of my other post witch im clearly guessing you didnt, then you would of known im not actually from the USA, im not attacking the america people or having ago at them, its more of an attack upon the system you live. i also dont agree with what the UK does either and i think we are no better so dont think im just anti america cos im really not and i love most american people i think they are great, the UK does the same and is just as bad

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