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Are you for or against Beats?

I Love Beats!
29.82% (17 votes)
Beats are really terrible.
47.37% (27 votes)
I can't afford Beats. :(
22.81% (13 votes)

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#451. Posted:
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Ok Well if u Buy a pair os 200$ Headphones U **** TAKE CARE OF THEM! mine are perfectly fine and the quality of music is just soooooooooooO!!!!!!!! good !!!!!!!!! TAKE GOOD CARE OF THEM AND THT WANT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!
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r00t_b33r wrote
annefrankww2 wrote ive had my beats for 6 months and there fine its called taking care of your stuff


You still can't accept that Beats are crap. All the evidence, all the research, still standing by your crappy headphones. It's almost funny!

Also, you're totally missing the point.



Treating your opinion as fact makes you look quite ignorant. It'd be wise to avoid doing so in the future. Beats are indeed fragile and idolized but it's all just matter of preference in the end.
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The thing that's really annoying though is that there are myriad headphones that do the exact same thing Beats do, but better, for much cheaper. I mean it's cool to defend your purchase, but only if you have legitimate facts and comparisons to back your stance. What I mean by that is that if you're saying Beats are the best thing ever, you better have tried a Sennheiser HD650, AKG K701, Sony XB1000, Grado SR325i, and a Beyerdynamic DT990--all of which cost about the same as the Studios, or even cheaper. Otherwise, you're talking out of your ass and if you do that in the real world, you'll be eaten alive just as much, maybe even more. We aren't disputing theoretical preferences (Sound is just as objective as subjective; a violin will always sound like a violin, a guitar, only a guitar. As humans, we tend to want natural sound, which anything super bassy doesn't give us, but we can be tricked into wanting something different.), we're disputing the incessant ignorance that runs rabidly within the Beats society. (Not the Beat Generation though. Those were some cool cats.) But still, Beats are objectively bad. Subjectively, maybe something else, but they legitimately are far from impressive.

What r00t_b33r says is kind of really pretentious (and kind of unnecessary since the poster probably didn't read any of the thread), but it's not nearly as pretentious as, "well you just can't afford them". It's like Beats are a grail of an object. Not really, even in an objective sense. They aren't expensive when taking the fact that there are headphones that cost $7,000 into account, they don't sound very nice at all, nor are they really a good value in any sense. They just teach our generation that it's okay to pay for what's essentially advertising costs as long as other people have them and it makes them look cool, which I guess is a case of Social Darwinism at its finest, in that the people that always follow the crowd will probably suck in the future, but still. I don't like that Monster is getting all this money and influencing the market in such a way. They may lead some people to getting better headphones, but for the rest of their customers, they will expect a colored sound in everything, which may ruin the music industry even more than it is today.
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eXPerience wrote
r00t_b33r wrote
annefrankww2 wrote ive had my beats for 6 months and there fine its called taking care of your stuff


You still can't accept that Beats are crap. All the evidence, all the research, still standing by your crappy headphones. It's almost funny!

Also, you're totally missing the point.



Treating your opinion as fact makes you look quite ignorant. It'd be wise to avoid doing so in the future. Beats are indeed fragile and idolized but it's all just matter of preference in the end.


I'm getting tired of site errors after I write a rather long post. Here we go again.

It's not a matter of opinion as it might seem. The problems with Beats are all based in fact and real-world observations. I've thoroughly explained what's wrong with them many times to this guy, yet he still refuses to acknowledge anything I say. He has clearly done no research and has not had any experience with other headphones. Still, he ardently stands by his views. I'm tired of trying to set him back on track, and since most rational people listen to reason, I usually only have to do that once, and it's a good experience. This isn't anything like forcing a religion on someone, it's about them knowing the facts and saving them money. He's been in many of these threads, so he's not new to this argument. He still can't present anything in favor of the Beats.

My post didn't come across as I hoped, and for that I apologize. I'm just a little exasperated with this guy.

Also, it's not really a matter of personal preference at all since other headphones that have a very similar (and better) sound signature are are available for less with better quality. If anything, that personal preference you steer you away from Beats.
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Ishcabible wrote The thing that's really annoying though is that there are myriad headphones that do the exact same thing Beats do, but better, for much cheaper. I mean it's cool to defend your purchase, but only if you have legitimate facts and comparisons to back your stance. What I mean by that is that if you're saying Beats are the best thing ever, you better have tried a Sennheiser HD650, AKG K701, Sony XB1000, Grado SR325i, and a Beyerdynamic DT990--all of which cost about the same as the Studios, or even cheaper. Otherwise, you're talking out of your **** and if you do that in the real world, you'll be eaten alive just as much, maybe even more. We aren't disputing theoretical preferences (Sound is just as objective as subjective; a violin will always sound like a violin, a guitar, only a guitar. As humans, we tend to want natural sound, which anything super bassy doesn't give us, but we can be tricked into wanting something different.), we're disputing the incessant ignorance that runs rabidly within the Beats society. (Not the Beat Generation though. Those were some cool cats.) But still, Beats are objectively bad. Subjectively, maybe something else, but they legitimately are far from impressive.

What r00t_b33r says is kind of really pretentious (and kind of unnecessary since the poster probably didn't read any of the thread), but it's not nearly as pretentious as, "well you just can't afford them". It's like Beats are a grail of an object. Not really, even in an objective sense. They aren't expensive when taking the fact that there are headphones that cost $7,000 into account, they don't sound very nice at all, nor are they really a good value in any sense. They just teach our generation that it's okay to pay for what's essentially advertising costs as long as other people have them and it makes them look cool, which I guess is a case of Social Darwinism at its finest, in that the people that always follow the crowd will probably suck in the future, but still. I don't like that Monster is getting all this money and influencing the market in such a way. They may lead some people to getting better headphones, but for the rest of their customers, they will expect a colored sound in everything, which may ruin the music industry even more than it is today.


^^ This. All of you guys need to do is read this, as it explains SO MUCH.

The only contribution that the Beats have made is making people willing to spend big money on headphones. They've altered the future of headphone audio, but not in the manner I would have liked. I hope that soon people will begin seeking audio quality and the Beats trend will disappear in favor of a trend toward the likes of AKG, Beyerdynamic, Sennheiser, Grado, etc.
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There's also some ATH A900X's for around the same

Willful Ignorance... is evil...
you can't argue with those...
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They are cheap made overpriced peices of shit
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I think beats look stupid. That is all. :|
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Gemballa wrote
To advise, If you have beats, take them back or this will happen.


Note: These are not my photos or Beats. I do not own a pair of Beats and do not plan on owning a pair.

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Two written review from consumers.


I wish I could give these cans a glowing review but after being burned twice due to poor manufacturing quality I must now warn consumers against making a $300 investment in these.

The first pair I bought was a year ago and I LOVED them from the first note I heard. I had never owned a pair of high end headphones so this was quite an upgrade for me. I was having a blast hearing my music library in a totally different way. This all changed about 2-3 months in as the screws which secure the earphones to the headbands started to get loose. With no way of securing them (you can't screw them back in) they eventually started to fall out. Little by little the headphones began to fall apart until they were no longer usable. I called Monster support up and they agreed to send me a new pair as long as I sent the broken pair to them (at my cost). Awesome! Well not so much...

About 3-4 months later I took off the headphones after using them and noticed the headband had a crack right in the middle of it! Not only were my headphones no longer stylish but they were no longer stable. I tried to work through the problem until one day I went to put them on after having them around my neck only to find that the left ear cushion was missing! More than a handful of times I have had an ear cushion fall off and I'd have to snap them back in but losing them makes the headphones completely useless, both for comfort and sound reasons.

I called Monster back and they told me they could not replace them again for free but I take advantage of their out of warranty program and get a new pair for $150. Gee let me think...I already coughed up $300 on these - should I put another $150 into this product that has already failed me twice? Of course the answer was no. While the cans are nice when they work I just couldn't put more money into something that I knew would break. Additionally, it was a hassle having to replace the batteries every few weeks (or have them run out of juice on you in the middle of the day while outside).

Therefore, I would have to recommend consumers shopping for headphones look elsewhere. In the meantime I will be looking for reliable/well crafted replacement.

PS The cord would always wear away at the ends, too.



Alright. I've had these headphones for about six months. I didn't buy them on Amazon, in fact I bought them at Best Buy. I imagine that Amazon gets rather more review readers than BB, so here I am.

First of all, just don't buy them. They look cool, they sound really good, and they're endorsed by a rapper/producer. These are great characteristics, but unfortunately none of them are really pillars of great headphone design. When you buy anything over a hundred bucks (headphones especially, given the huge availability of cheap alternatives) you expect them to be well built. Apparently Dre, Ph.D., didn't give any though to this. In terms of build quality and engineering, Beats by Dre Solo are really, really awful. Made of cheap plastic, they bend and creak around all over the place. The "convenient" folding action of the headphones is made less so by the fact that each folding hinge is just held together by one tiny screw which breaks extremely easily, leaving you with two-thirds of a pair of headphones.

The speakers themselves are held to the frame by two plastic tongue-and-groove slots each which pop out with almost no prompting and are about four-thousand times more difficult to put back than they are to dislodge. When the ear pieces come off the frame, they're noticeably less comfortable and it's not uncommon to have to pause whatever you're listening to for several minutes while you attempt to re-set them. In fact, I never would have written this review if I hadn't had to stop my current entertainment 8 (count 'em, 8 times in less than an hour) times in order to pop the ear pieces back in. I can't explain in full detail what an irritating hassle it is to fix your headphones so often. The ear pieces, have a tiny (24?) gauge wire connecting the ear piece to the frame. The left ear piece (the one that the cord attaches to) especially has come apart from the frame so often that the tiny wire has stripped itself, and I worry each time I have to reset the ear pieces about breaking the wire entirely. I have no doubt that eventually, the headphones will destroy themselves so much that I'll take them out of commission totally just by trying to fix them. Honestly, I'm so sick of messing with them that I'd rather use the cheapest set I could find out of Radio Shack.

To be fairly fair, they sound great. They have a good cushioning, so even though they aren't noise cancelling, they block out most ambient sound. The frequency response is actually discernible, at least at the low end, and you feel pretty immersed in what you're listening to. I like that they have a detachable connection between the cord and the headphones (the cord is separate, detachable at both ends) and that the cord is long and has a right-angle connection on one side. I would have liked a fabric or mesh-coated wire, but the flexible, shape-resistant plastic rubber they use is pretty good.

That being said, if I could still return them I would. All the sound quality in the world isn't worth it if you have to stop your song or video partway through several times to fuss with your headphones. I've actually taken to using my $10 earbuds instead, just because I never have to worry about them coming undone. It really infuriates me that you can waste (that's what it is, waste) that much money on such a horrible product just because someone in the music industry tells you that it's worth it. What I've come to realize is that rappers don't necessarily know anything about sound quality or speaker design, just because they know how to rhyme. The branding, size, and shape of the headphones make them more of an advertisement than a real pair of listening devices, too.

Bottom line, get a pair of AKGs or some $40 Sony's or something. Don't waste the money you've wrested from your job on cheap plastic crap like this. I've only written one other review, on something I particularly liked, so please get my full meaning when I spend my time warning you about a product I really don't.

It's hard to impress the readers of product reviews, mostly because the majority of reviews about this specific product are generally positive. I would write off Dre fanboys and people who report solely on the sound quality though. As I've said, sound quality is on par with the upper-middle class of headphones and I don't contest the quality or lack thereof the doctor's music. All I ask is that for your own happiness, you skip buying anything with that stupid "b" logo and get something which will last you more than an hour in its original condition. Dr. Dre should stick to lyrics, and leave the engineering to engineers.



It's also worth noting that the Monster ControlTalk technology (in other words, the rocker and select buttons built into the cord) are compatible ONLY with iProducts like the iPod and iPhone. If you are planning on using these headphones on your phone, and you have an Android (like I do) or Windows Phone device, or even if you're using a standard MP3 player, you're SOL. The controls are completely useless. Thanks for the compatability guys.



In other words, Beats are not even close to how much they are worth. $300 for Studios that have NO studio-type output. They run on batteries, for christ's sake. The bass nearly muffles the whole song you are listening to.

If you say Beats have good quality, PLEASE look at other headphones or jump off a bridge.

If you want more bang for your buck, use this topic to get help for picking out a good pair of reliable headphones.

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My opinion to them is that there only used for studio/dj(ing) , thats my opinion , to me skull candys are as good as them
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You've never even had a pair...
It's not hard to take care of beats.
Just saying...
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