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Can you trust your antivirus ? [UPDATED]
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People say on the forums if your not sure about a something you have downloaded make sure you check it with your antivirus.
Sorry but this isn't true in some cases as there are many ways to hide the presents of the virus which is almost impossible to detect.
Here are some examples of what could your antivirus could say:
This one is of a positive virus scan
This is the same virus but has being altered to hide the virus
The Basics
When people started making these viruses they use to put as winlogin.exe which is in the process area of your task manger and winlogin.exe is very important and it's what allows you to be able to log in to your user account and the person of the virus but don't be mistaken as they can hide it in many other places under different names which for example could be svchost.exe because there can be over 10 and is very very hard to detect and find the virus and even if you close it is going to come back unless you disable it.
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What they do to hide the virus
As you will see in the picture below this is what they hide it as but as you see there's a problem
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This shows that you cant be too safe with what you are downloading, This was for education means only and i don't intend to do this to the community
Please PM me if you think you might be infected and would like me to help you
Please also post some supportive words as im only trying to help you guys
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Sorry but this isn't true in some cases as there are many ways to hide the presents of the virus which is almost impossible to detect.
Here are some examples of what could your antivirus could say:
This one is of a positive virus scan
File Info
Report date: 2012-03-22 17:49:24 (GMT 1)
File name: ukfdubstep-tut-exe
File size: 665088 bytes
MD5 Hash: a873b1e93536bd6464685b06fe6eebb5
SHA1 Hash: eb916685b70fe47d3d6d543f54f2c9cb53adc6ad
Detection rate: 7 on 9 (78%)
Status: INFECTED
Detections
Avast - Win32:Flooder-GR [Trj]
AVG - BackDoor.Generic15.XKA
Avira AntiVir - BDS/Backdoor.Gen
ClamAV - Trojan.Agent-272608
Comodo -
Emsisoft - Trojan.Win32.CDur!IK
F-Prot - W32/Downloader.C.gen!Eldorado
Ikarus - Trojan.Win32.CDur
TrendMicro -
Scan report generated by
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It has shown several virus results from 9 popular antivirus
Report date: 2012-03-22 17:49:24 (GMT 1)
File name: ukfdubstep-tut-exe
File size: 665088 bytes
MD5 Hash: a873b1e93536bd6464685b06fe6eebb5
SHA1 Hash: eb916685b70fe47d3d6d543f54f2c9cb53adc6ad
Detection rate: 7 on 9 (78%)
Status: INFECTED
Detections
Avast - Win32:Flooder-GR [Trj]
AVG - BackDoor.Generic15.XKA
Avira AntiVir - BDS/Backdoor.Gen
ClamAV - Trojan.Agent-272608
Comodo -
Emsisoft - Trojan.Win32.CDur!IK
F-Prot - W32/Downloader.C.gen!Eldorado
Ikarus - Trojan.Win32.CDur
TrendMicro -
Scan report generated by
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It has shown several virus results from 9 popular antivirus
This is the same virus but has being altered to hide the virus
Report date: 2012-03-22 18:01:02 (GMT 1)
File name: ukfdubstep-tut-2-exe
File size: 665102 bytes
MD5 Hash: 32af20259f61d2edabd60451a67ab8e7
SHA1 Hash: a60fb217980741588226bd1e32fc7a15fb111956
Detection rate: 0 on 9 (0%)
Status: CLEAN
Detections
Avast -
AVG -
Avira AntiVir -
ClamAV -
Comodo -
Emsisoft -
F-Prot -
Ikarus -
TrendMicro -
Scan report generated by
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This is the same virus
File name: ukfdubstep-tut-2-exe
File size: 665102 bytes
MD5 Hash: 32af20259f61d2edabd60451a67ab8e7
SHA1 Hash: a60fb217980741588226bd1e32fc7a15fb111956
Detection rate: 0 on 9 (0%)
Status: CLEAN
Detections
Avast -
AVG -
Avira AntiVir -
ClamAV -
Comodo -
Emsisoft -
F-Prot -
Ikarus -
TrendMicro -
Scan report generated by
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This is the same virus
The Basics
When people started making these viruses they use to put as winlogin.exe which is in the process area of your task manger and winlogin.exe is very important and it's what allows you to be able to log in to your user account and the person of the virus but don't be mistaken as they can hide it in many other places under different names which for example could be svchost.exe because there can be over 10 and is very very hard to detect and find the virus and even if you close it is going to come back unless you disable it.
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What they do to hide the virus
As you will see in the picture below this is what they hide it as but as you see there's a problem
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This shows that you cant be too safe with what you are downloading, This was for education means only and i don't intend to do this to the community
Please PM me if you think you might be infected and would like me to help you
Please also post some supportive words as im only trying to help you guys
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The safest wayis to just get a good anti virusand just watch what your downloading especially .exe programs and dont run java popups if they are not by a popular company or a very trusted one or you will end up will most likely end up with a virus
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i have AVG fir a very long time, mines runs out on on 2018 and i can definetly trust mine
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TTG_Code wrote The safest wayis to just get a good anti virusand just watch what your downloading especially .exe programs and dont run java popups if they are not by a popular company or a very trusted one or you will end up will most likely end up with a virus
god dammit your stupid.... did you even read his post? A good antivirus won't do jack against even a UD virus, and what exactly are you talking about by "good", what makes an AV "good" to you? The cool layout?
Haaarrisx wrote i have AVG fir a very long time, mines runs out on on 2018 and i can definetly trust mine
again, did you even read the thread???
Anyway, it's nice to see you trying to help the community, far too many times you see people say they can't get a virus because they have an AV.... examples above -_-.
Either way, your words will go unnoticed here, people are just plan stupid...
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TTG_Code wrote The safest wayis to just get a good anti virusand just watch what your downloading especially .exe programs and dont run java popups if they are not by a popular company or a very trusted one or you will end up will most likely end up with a virus
As i said in the tread your anti virus wont do anything against it
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File Info
Report date: 2012-03-23.
Scan Occured: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
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File name: UKFDubstep TUT 2.exe
File size: 665102 bytes
MD5 Hash: 32af20259f61d2edabd60451a67ab8e7
SHA1 Hash: a60fb217980741588226bd1e32fc7a15fb111956
Detection rate: 0 out of 37
Status: CLEAN
Detections
AVG - Clean.
Acavir - Clean.
Avast 5 -Clean.
Avast -Clean.
Avira -Clean.
BitDefender -Clean.
VirusBuster Internet Security -Clean.
Clam Antivirus -Clean.
COMODO Internet Security -Clean.
DrWeb -Clean.
eTrust-Vet -Clean.
F-PROT Antivirus -Clean.
F-Secure Internet Security -Clean.
G Data -Clean.
IKARUS Security-Clean.
Kaspersky Antivirus -Clean.
McAfee -Clean.
MS Security Essentials -Clean.
ESET NOD32 -Clean.
Norman -Clean.
Norton -Clean.
Panda Security -Clean.
A-Squared Security -Clean.
Quick Heal Antivirus -Clean.
Rising Antivirus -Clean.
Solo Antivirus -Clean.
Sophos -Clean.
Trend Micro Internet Security -Clean.
VBA32 Antivirus -Clean.
Vexira Antivirus -Clean.
Webroot Internet Security -Clean.
Zoner AntiVirus -Clean.
Ad-Aware -Clean.
AhnLab V3 Internet Security -Clean.
Bullguard -Clean.
Imunitet -Clean.
Vipre -Clean.
Scan report generated by
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Report date: 2012-03-23.
Scan Occured: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
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File name: UKFDubstep TUT 2.exe
File size: 665102 bytes
MD5 Hash: 32af20259f61d2edabd60451a67ab8e7
SHA1 Hash: a60fb217980741588226bd1e32fc7a15fb111956
Detection rate: 0 out of 37
Status: CLEAN
Detections
AVG - Clean.
Acavir - Clean.
Avast 5 -Clean.
Avast -Clean.
Avira -Clean.
BitDefender -Clean.
VirusBuster Internet Security -Clean.
Clam Antivirus -Clean.
COMODO Internet Security -Clean.
DrWeb -Clean.
eTrust-Vet -Clean.
F-PROT Antivirus -Clean.
F-Secure Internet Security -Clean.
G Data -Clean.
IKARUS Security-Clean.
Kaspersky Antivirus -Clean.
McAfee -Clean.
MS Security Essentials -Clean.
ESET NOD32 -Clean.
Norman -Clean.
Norton -Clean.
Panda Security -Clean.
A-Squared Security -Clean.
Quick Heal Antivirus -Clean.
Rising Antivirus -Clean.
Solo Antivirus -Clean.
Sophos -Clean.
Trend Micro Internet Security -Clean.
VBA32 Antivirus -Clean.
Vexira Antivirus -Clean.
Webroot Internet Security -Clean.
Zoner AntiVirus -Clean.
Ad-Aware -Clean.
AhnLab V3 Internet Security -Clean.
Bullguard -Clean.
Imunitet -Clean.
Vipre -Clean.
Scan report generated by
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Nice Post!
An antivirus is only good against "Stock Viruses" as was mentioned above , The best protection is the user, use your common sense and check your system for un-commanded activity, emails for strange / unknown attachments.
(Of cause, windows likes to do un-commanded activity itself when it comes down to updates, this includes restarting a computer when a program is in full screen and you fail to see the reboot screen!)
Also note that the way most common ways viruses are passed around are by those who want to download something for free and click on all links in the path in the hope that they get what they want! (Most systems I repair due to virus infection are due to the user trying to download Paid software for Free (Piracy)!
Keep safe out there and have fun
An antivirus is only good against "Stock Viruses" as was mentioned above , The best protection is the user, use your common sense and check your system for un-commanded activity, emails for strange / unknown attachments.
(Of cause, windows likes to do un-commanded activity itself when it comes down to updates, this includes restarting a computer when a program is in full screen and you fail to see the reboot screen!)
Also note that the way most common ways viruses are passed around are by those who want to download something for free and click on all links in the path in the hope that they get what they want! (Most systems I repair due to virus infection are due to the user trying to download Paid software for Free (Piracy)!
Keep safe out there and have fun
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I will updating the topic in time guys
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