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I'm not doubting this is happening but what do we do after we wake up. It will be nearly impossible to do anything. The government controls everything and could shut a resistance down in an instant. They have our army. Even if our soldiers back down, they will buy every greedy man in this country to take their spot. It's going to happen whether we "wake up" or not... if it happens.
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Straight-Edge wrote I'm not doubting this is happening but what do we do after we wake up. It will be nearly impossible to do anything. The government controls everything and could shut a resistance down in an instant. They have our army. Even if our soldiers back down, they will buy every greedy man in this country to take their spot. It's going to happen whether we "wake up" or not... if it happens.


You have given up without even a second though.

1776 the founding fathers of this country fought side by side, farmer by farmer against the worlds greatest military at the time. Despite the number of people asleep we have a crazy number compared to them. The people who will be fighting against those who fight for liberty, freedom, and their country will have more motivation than those who are doing it for a pay check, or because they get a power rush from yelling at people, beating them to death, raping them etc. We start of with calling them out on it and warning people waking them out. When they come for our weapons and come to take us away we refuse. They will use force (the criminals) the people who know it's wrong will not participate and join those who oppose them aka Civil war. It'll be the people vs. military's. It won't happen if you stand up to it. If it does more people will be awake and not go by what they say and we will be stronger in numbers. It'll be a hard fought win but its for humanity and the future of this planet and if you want to give up before you have even tried then to you sir I say

Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not
have, nor do they deserve, either one.
Thomas Jefferson

"In the beginning of change, the Patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated and
scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it
costs nothing to be a patriot"
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I Rest My Case.
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-Tar- wrote
Avive wrote
-Chelsea wrote This is the scariest stuff ever. I mean it seriously could happen very soon.


This isn't a question of if. It is happening.

SHEEP!
i higly agree with you... why do you call people sheep?


In a nation or world of sheep, wolves will rule them.

Sheep = General Population who listen and abide by the rules and laws of tyranny and the unjust actions of our Goverments without saying anything. They are asleep, they won't take action until it effects them and some don't even take action at all. These are sheep they go along with whatever you tell them to do and say because they are cowards. They are threatened by the wolves (= current governments that are full of tyranny).

The only thing that can protect sheep from wolves is sheepdogs, sheepdogs are awake, knowledgeable and willing to protect and fight for what is right..
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Avive wrote
-Tar- wrote
Avive wrote
-Chelsea wrote This is the scariest stuff ever. I mean it seriously could happen very soon.


This isn't a question of if. It is happening.

SHEEP!
i higly agree with you... why do you call people sheep?


In a nation or world of sheep, wolves will rule them.

Sheep = General Population who listen and abide by the rules and laws of tyranny and the unjust actions of our Goverments without saying anything. They are asleep, they won't take action until it effects them and some don't even take action at all. These are sheep they go along with whatever you tell them to do and say because they are cowards. They are threatened by the wolves (= current governments that are full of tyranny).

The only thing that can protect sheep from wolves is sheepdogs, sheepdogs are awake, knowledgeable and willing to protect and fight for what is right..
ok makes sense
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Avive wrote
Straight-Edge wrote I'm not doubting this is happening but what do we do after we wake up. It will be nearly impossible to do anything. The government controls everything and could shut a resistance down in an instant. They have our army. Even if our soldiers back down, they will buy every greedy man in this country to take their spot. It's going to happen whether we "wake up" or not... if it happens.


You have given up without even a second though.

1776 the founding fathers of this country fought side by side, farmer by farmer against the worlds greatest military at the time. Despite the number of people asleep we have a crazy number compared to them. The people who will be fighting against those who fight for liberty, freedom, and their country will have more motivation than those who are doing it for a pay check, or because they get a power rush from yelling at people, beating them to death, raping them etc. We start of with calling them out on it and warning people waking them out. When they come for our weapons and come to take us away we refuse. They will use force (the criminals) the people who know it's wrong will not participate and join those who oppose them aka Civil war. It'll be the people vs. military's. It won't happen if you stand up to it. If it does more people will be awake and not go by what they say and we will be stronger in numbers. It'll be a hard fought win but its for humanity and the future of this planet and if you want to give up before you have even tried then to you sir I say

Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not
have, nor do they deserve, either one.
Thomas Jefferson

"In the beginning of change, the Patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated and
scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it
costs nothing to be a patriot"
Mark Twain

I Rest My Case.


What? Where did you get the idea that I'm giving up? I would fight with a resistance, but there is no way they would win. I'm what you call a realist. I take in the facts. I don't understand why you are talking like you are leading a resistance anyway. Word is not getting out on a site where less than 5,000 log in daily (average.) In order for us to win, things will have worse before it can get better.
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I don't find this that scary? How often does America ever just sttack another country? Never. They only big thing that we did was drop bombs on Japan. And they destryed everything that we made, and killed people in Pearl Harbor. I highly, highly doubt that America will ever be the first to attack.
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Straight-Edge wrote
Avive wrote
Straight-Edge wrote I'm not doubting this is happening but what do we do after we wake up. It will be nearly impossible to do anything. The government controls everything and could shut a resistance down in an instant. They have our army. Even if our soldiers back down, they will buy every greedy man in this country to take their spot. It's going to happen whether we "wake up" or not... if it happens.


You have given up without even a second though.

1776 the founding fathers of this country fought side by side, farmer by farmer against the worlds greatest military at the time. Despite the number of people asleep we have a crazy number compared to them. The people who will be fighting against those who fight for liberty, freedom, and their country will have more motivation than those who are doing it for a pay check, or because they get a power rush from yelling at people, beating them to death, raping them etc. We start of with calling them out on it and warning people waking them out. When they come for our weapons and come to take us away we refuse. They will use force (the criminals) the people who know it's wrong will not participate and join those who oppose them aka Civil war. It'll be the people vs. military's. It won't happen if you stand up to it. If it does more people will be awake and not go by what they say and we will be stronger in numbers. It'll be a hard fought win but its for humanity and the future of this planet and if you want to give up before you have even tried then to you sir I say

Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not
have, nor do they deserve, either one.
Thomas Jefferson

"In the beginning of change, the Patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated and
scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it
costs nothing to be a patriot"
Mark Twain

I Rest My Case.


What? Where did you get the idea that I'm giving up? I would fight with a resistance, but there is no way they would win. I'm what you call a realist. I take in the facts. I don't understand why you are talking like you are leading a resistance anyway. Word is not getting out on a site where less than 5,000 log in daily (average.) In order for us to win, things will have worse before it can get better.


I spread the word in public, and I'm talking in a motivating way or trying too because it sounded like you had given up all hope and I still do because "no way they would win" referring to a resistance of sorts? (Assuming) if so that is what I call giving up. You have already told yourself that you will lose. I'm what you call a realist too, I take in facts.
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Im_a_Killer wrote I don't find this that scary? How often does America ever just sttack another country? Never. They only big thing that we did was drop bombs on Japan. And they destryed everything that we made, and killed people in Pearl Harbor. I highly, highly doubt that America will ever be the first to attack.


I'm not afraid....We attack country's all the time but we use the cover of Al-Qaeda. World War 2 was the works of two groups of Eugenics.
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Avive wrote
Straight-Edge wrote I'm not doubting this is happening but what do we do after we wake up. It will be nearly impossible to do anything. The government controls everything and could shut a resistance down in an instant. They have our army. Even if our soldiers back down, they will buy every greedy man in this country to take their spot. It's going to happen whether we "wake up" or not... if it happens.


You have given up without even a second though.

1776 the founding fathers of this country fought side by side, farmer by farmer against the worlds greatest military at the time. Despite the number of people asleep we have a crazy number compared to them. The people who will be fighting against those who fight for liberty, freedom, and their country will have more motivation than those who are doing it for a pay check, or because they get a power rush from yelling at people, beating them to death, raping them etc. We start of with calling them out on it and warning people waking them out. When they come for our weapons and come to take us away we refuse. They will use force (the criminals) the people who know it's wrong will not participate and join those who oppose them aka Civil war. It'll be the people vs. military's. It won't happen if you stand up to it. If it does more people will be awake and not go by what they say and we will be stronger in numbers. It'll be a hard fought win but its for humanity and the future of this planet and if you want to give up before you have even tried then to you sir I say

Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not
have, nor do they deserve, either one.
Thomas Jefferson

"In the beginning of change, the Patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated and
scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it
costs nothing to be a patriot"
Mark Twain

I Rest My Case.


Why are you using 1776 as an example? You do realize that our technology grew significantly? Back in 1776, they had guns with horrible accuracy with a blade on the end. Farmers could have used other things as weapons like their tools, like hammers and shovels. Our government has tanks, machine guns, nukes, and nearly invisibility cloakes. Do you have some of those things lying around your house, because I don't. You could get some shipped through the black market but no where near enough. It's a near impossible battle. Tech is a big factor, and we as civilians just don't have it.
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Straight-Edge wrote
Avive wrote
Straight-Edge wrote I'm not doubting this is happening but what do we do after we wake up. It will be nearly impossible to do anything. The government controls everything and could shut a resistance down in an instant. They have our army. Even if our soldiers back down, they will buy every greedy man in this country to take their spot. It's going to happen whether we "wake up" or not... if it happens.


You have given up without even a second though.

1776 the founding fathers of this country fought side by side, farmer by farmer against the worlds greatest military at the time. Despite the number of people asleep we have a crazy number compared to them. The people who will be fighting against those who fight for liberty, freedom, and their country will have more motivation than those who are doing it for a pay check, or because they get a power rush from yelling at people, beating them to death, raping them etc. We start of with calling them out on it and warning people waking them out. When they come for our weapons and come to take us away we refuse. They will use force (the criminals) the people who know it's wrong will not participate and join those who oppose them aka Civil war. It'll be the people vs. military's. It won't happen if you stand up to it. If it does more people will be awake and not go by what they say and we will be stronger in numbers. It'll be a hard fought win but its for humanity and the future of this planet and if you want to give up before you have even tried then to you sir I say

Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not
have, nor do they deserve, either one.
Thomas Jefferson

"In the beginning of change, the Patriot is a scarce man; brave, hated and
scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it
costs nothing to be a patriot"
Mark Twain

I Rest My Case.


Why are you using 1776 as an example? You do realize that our technology grew significantly? Back in 1776, they had guns with horrible accuracy with a blade on the end. Farmers could have used other things as weapons like their tools, like hammers and shovels. Our government has tanks, machine guns, nukes, and nearly invisibility cloakes. Do you have some of those things lying around your house, because I don't. You could get some shipped through the black market but no where near enough. It's a near impossible battle. Tech is a big factor, and we as civilians just don't have it.


Thanks for the memo on 1776 till 2012, didn't know we had better weapons...You are missing the point, 1776 does not represent the weapons used. We are in time period of great technology you are right. You think we wouldn't be able to acquire these things after battles? You don't need tanks, you don't need nukes, and machine guns? Like we couldn't get those from dead tyrants? Weapons from dead. Weapons from households. We don't need the best of the best to win a fight. In the case of a fight such as this (Liberty vs Tyrant Eugenic Genocidal Leaders) you can't say we won't win because we don't have the guns. Many people will die yes, but for everyone one of us 5 of them will die because a fight like this is more than guns its more than who has the most powerful toys. You can kill a man from an Apache out of sight, from a predator, but you can't kill everyone at one time. We are humans adapt and learn to survive. You take the case of the holocaust. If you take away the Allies factor and you just use Jewish Resistance and Jewish Sympathizers fighting the Nazi party it was a hard won battle for the Nazi's.

We face great doubt as a whole but we also have the ability to pull through and win.

You have already given up mentally.
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