Skruffy wrote the only advantage macs have over pc is there inability to get infected, but I have seen some viruses in word for mac.

um, as far as coding goes, no macs are not better than pc

FouxNation wrote Apple uses the best of the best they can get their hands on, they also have great support, so I go with Apple. I am a PC owner myself, but if you like to make things, like pics, vids, websites they are the best in my eyes. They also have their OS down, unlike windows. The fact that OS X is a hybrid os (runs both 64 and 32 bit at the same time) is a REALLY big one if you ask me. Also, you can always install windows on a mac and do that. Don't get me wrong, I like windows as well, but if you arent a modder/hacker/super nerd, than apple is better.

r00t_b33r wrote

FouxNation wrote Apple uses the best of the best they can get their hands on, they also have great support, so I go with Apple. I am a PC owner myself, but if you like to make things, like pics, vids, websites they are the best in my eyes. They also have their OS down, unlike windows. The fact that OS X is a hybrid os (runs both 64 and 32 bit at the same time) is a REALLY big one if you ask me. Also, you can always install windows on a mac and do that. Don't get me wrong, I like windows as well, but if you arent a modder/hacker/super nerd, than apple is better.

Apple hardware is identical to other PC hardware. Although they advertise 6970s in the iMacs, they're in fact inferior to desktop 6850s because they're mobile GPUs. The screens they use in the 27 inch iMac can be found here in this monitor:
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Here's what I have so far with my Apple computer copypasta. Right now I'm still addressing Macbooks. I'm very far from being finished, but when I am, I will not have to explain myself every time I post about Macs.

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In this pasta, I will address the entire line. Macbooks, iMacs, the Mac Mini, and the Mac Pro.

Macbooks: As with all Macs, you'll get better performance per dollar out of another computer. But there's much more to a computer than just pure performance and specs mean much less for laptops than they do with desktops. Macbooks are remarkably good laptops, definitely some of the best. I'll give them this. I said they were bad laptops, I'd be full of crap. The problem with them is that they're just not as good as other offerings, and I'll explain why is as much detail as I can.

1. Glossy displays. There is no point in a glossy panel besides making the colors falsely appear more vivid. A glossy finish makes the screen much more prone to fingerprints and glare is a huge issue. In short, matte panels are far superior to glossy panels.

2. Build quality. They're built well in that they are well-assembled, but durability is awful. Aluminum dents extremely easily and the unibody design does not allow for easy replacement of parts of the enclosure. Warping frequently causes problems with the hinge, which frequently results in a broken display cable and/or a loose screen. I deal with a lot of Macbooks daily, and this is a disturbingly common problem. Much like the iPhone, the design does not allow for resistance to impact damage. Impacts will cause warping and cracked LCDs very easily.

3. Heat management. Using any Macbook for CPU-intensive tasks reveals this problem. The cooling design is not effective enough and temperatures skyrocket almost immediately, causing the fan(s) to ramp up to max speed. This becomes extremely loud, but it's still not enough. Temperatures stay dangerously high under load and because aluminum is a good conductor of heat, it goes right to whatever surface it is on, like your thigh. In theory, this should help with heat dissipation, but Macbooks still run too hot and that heat is transferred to places you notice it, like the keyboard, bottom, and palm rests. This is one of many examples of Apple's form-over-function design principles causing problems that could have been easily avoided.

4. The specs are not up to par with other similarly-priced laptops

Cod_Deity wrote I don't get this big myth about mac's being superior for editing and such when really its the software just because Mac comes with better stock software then windows doesn't mean its better, if your serious about whatever you do you probably don't use stock programs
Mac's can pretty much do everything windows can do but flash (coding wise)
But honestly if you really want to program build your own PC, and load up some POSIX flavours.

FouxNation wrote

r00t_b33r wrote

FouxNation wrote Apple uses the best of the best they can get their hands on, they also have great support, so I go with Apple. I am a PC owner myself, but if you like to make things, like pics, vids, websites they are the best in my eyes. They also have their OS down, unlike windows. The fact that OS X is a hybrid os (runs both 64 and 32 bit at the same time) is a REALLY big one if you ask me. Also, you can always install windows on a mac and do that. Don't get me wrong, I like windows as well, but if you arent a modder/hacker/super nerd, than apple is better.

Apple hardware is identical to other PC hardware. Although they advertise 6970s in the iMacs, they're in fact inferior to desktop 6850s because they're mobile GPUs. The screens they use in the 27 inch iMac can be found here in this monitor:
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Here's what I have so far with my Apple computer copypasta. Right now I'm still addressing Macbooks. I'm very far from being finished, but when I am, I will not have to explain myself every time I post about Macs.

Click to View Content

In this pasta, I will address the entire line. Macbooks, iMacs, the Mac Mini, and the Mac Pro.

Macbooks: As with all Macs, you'll get better performance per dollar out of another computer. But there's much more to a computer than just pure performance and specs mean much less for laptops than they do with desktops. Macbooks are remarkably good laptops, definitely some of the best. I'll give them this. I said they were bad laptops, I'd be full of crap. The problem with them is that they're just not as good as other offerings, and I'll explain why is as much detail as I can.

1. Glossy displays. There is no point in a glossy panel besides making the colors falsely appear more vivid. A glossy finish makes the screen much more prone to fingerprints and glare is a huge issue. In short, matte panels are far superior to glossy panels.

2. Build quality. They're built well in that they are well-assembled, but durability is awful. Aluminum dents extremely easily and the unibody design does not allow for easy replacement of parts of the enclosure. Warping frequently causes problems with the hinge, which frequently results in a broken display cable and/or a loose screen. I deal with a lot of Macbooks daily, and this is a disturbingly common problem. Much like the iPhone, the design does not allow for resistance to impact damage. Impacts will cause warping and cracked LCDs very easily.

3. Heat management. Using any Macbook for CPU-intensive tasks reveals this problem. The cooling design is not effective enough and temperatures skyrocket almost immediately, causing the fan(s) to ramp up to max speed. This becomes extremely loud, but it's still not enough. Temperatures stay dangerously high under load and because aluminum is a good conductor of heat, it goes right to whatever surface it is on, like your thigh. In theory, this should help with heat dissipation, but Macbooks still run too hot and that heat is transferred to places you notice it, like the keyboard, bottom, and palm rests. This is one of many examples of Apple's form-over-function design principles causing problems that could have been easily avoided.

4. The specs are not up to par with other similarly-priced laptops

That might change come WWDC in a few days

FouxNation wrote What might change? Macbooks will get higher-res screens? The Thinkpad R50 had a QXGA panel nine years ago. The Asus UX21A and UX31A come with 1080p panels.

FouxNation wrote Apple uses the best of the best they can get their hands on, they also have great support, so I go with Apple. I am a PC owner myself, but if you like to make things, like pics, vids, websites they are the best in my eyes. They also have their OS down, unlike windows. The fact that OS X is a hybrid os (runs both 64 and 32 bit at the same time) is a REALLY big one if you ask me. Also, you can always install windows on a mac and do that. Don't get me wrong, I like windows as well, but if you arent a modder/hacker/super nerd, than apple is better.

Rei wrote

FouxNation wrote Apple uses the best of the best they can get their hands on, they also have great support, so I go with Apple. I am a PC owner myself, but if you like to make things, like pics, vids, websites they are the best in my eyes. They also have their OS down, unlike windows. The fact that OS X is a hybrid os (runs both 64 and 32 bit at the same time) is a REALLY big one if you ask me. Also, you can always install windows on a mac and do that. Don't get me wrong, I like windows as well, but if you arent a modder/hacker/super nerd, than apple is better.

If you really beleive that apple uses the best of the best, then you do not know anything about computers.

You can build a desktop that will blitz any mac for a thousand dollars less than a mac costs.

Only thing apple have right are the aesthetics.