FouxNation wrote Original Price Tag: $1000

Ha! You Mac fanboys can convince yourselves of anything, no matter how untrue. This also assumes the price stayed constant for the new models through the generations, which is likely.

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xChesser wrote What about the resale value of a Mac? The 2006 Mac Pro is selling on eBay for around $600-$800. Tell me if you can find a 6 year old PC that is selling for that much.

Selling or asking? I can advertise and ask for $20,000 for my current custom PC, but that does not mean I'm going to get it. Only a fool would buy an Apple computer, never-mind an even more outdated one. Re-sale value has everything to due with the name and superior marketing, not because of a good price:performance ratio.

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LOL HI5

This means nothing without the original price tag. It also shows that Macs only stay overpriced and you're still paying out the arse for stupidly outdated hardware. The Mac Pro is also seemingly discontinued, another shot to the foot from Apple's own gun.

Can't we all just agree that they're all computers?

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FouxNation wrote

xChesser wrote

Generation wrote

xChesser wrote What about the resale value of a Mac? The 2006 Mac Pro is selling on eBay for around $600-$800. Tell me if you can find a 6 year old PC that is selling for that much.

Selling or asking? I can advertise and ask for $20,000 for my current custom PC, but that does not mean I'm going to get it. Only a fool would buy an Apple computer, never-mind an even more outdated one. Re-sale value has everything to due with the name and superior marketing, not because of a good price:performance ratio.

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LOL HI5

This means nothing without the original price tag. It also shows that Macs only stay overpriced and you're still paying out the arse for stupidly outdated hardware. The Mac Pro is also seemingly discontinued, another shot to the foot from Apple's own gun.

Can't we all just agree that they're all computers?

Well that would be no fun at all now, would it? Per that logic, why would you pay $3,000 for a computer when you could just as easily pay $300 for a computer?

Not to be that guy..but the original poster asked a simple question.

..does anybody know if macs are better than PC's when it comes down to programming and things?

Mac computers are generally very good for programming, graphic design and all things down that side of the hill. Now, programming specifically, it'd be web development or making applications for an iOS / Mac OS platform.

For other languages, such as Java, the .net languages etc, in my opinion a Windows OS is a big advantage. This being said, you can run Windows from a Mac.

Conclusion: Macs are good for programming.

Graphic design & Video editing on the other hand, I'm going to say what every Macbook owner will disagree with, Mac computers are horrible for real video editing. Why? Their specs cannot handle much. Look, Sony Vegas isn't available on Mac for a reason.

Conclusion: Macs are not good for real video editing, however, for small messing around they're better suited than Windows PCs due to their stock software.

Now the important part, value for money.

I don't care how you try and justify paying the price of a Macbook Pro, or any other Mac computer, it is not possible to.

You will pay about 1000 USD more for a Macbook than a rival Samsung product, with similar weight, size and materials used in it's creation.

You will also get a much more powerful machine, my laptop is no gaming laptop, however, it's specs kill those of the Macbook pro in the same range as itself, while saving me a cool grand.

Common things used to justify Macs:

- OS is "better" than Windows
- More durable
- Better software
- Better design
- "Just because you can't afford one.."

Mac OS is very nice, I'll give it that, however, it's very limited, and makes me feel like my computer thinks I'm an idiot, too simple for my liking.

Macbooks are not more durable than every other PC in the world, they have a unibody frame, it's nice but it's still aluminium.

Macs come with a nice range of stock software built in-house by Apple, and it is a nice thing to have with your PC. Now, if anyone who owns one can say they honestly use all of that software on a daily-basis, or even weekly, fair enough. The non-Apple software for Macs is laughable. (at best)

As for the design, while it is nice to feel and look at, it's cooling is seriously horrible. The uni-body makes the bottom portion of the Macbooks turn into an expensive way to make a fry, you can only imagine how that works for the cooling inside the case and the damage done to the chips.

There's a lot more that could be said, but in the end it's down to a user's needs, but keep in mind, you could build a desktop PC that's 5x as powerful for the same price, or buy a laptop 2x as powerful for half the price of Apple's offerings.

In PCs, never make the claim "you don't have a Mac because you can't afford one", a serious PC rid can rack up thousands of dollars, and a medium build can cost far less than a Mac, have an amazing Obsidian Series case, and still out perform any Mac-based computer in power.

Typed in a rush, could be a mistake or two.