Intel_2500k wrote

Zilla wrote Mac -> pre-built, great industrial design, UNIX operating system with free developer tools for a wide variety of languages included with the operating system. Runs pretty much any open source software for *nix systems (including just about all software that runs on Linux systems), large parts of the OS are open source. Generally uses established open standards under the hood with an easy-to-use GUI tool for regular users.

Wintel machine -> You have to research carefully when building or buying since everyone claims their machine/component is the greatest thing since sliced bread, Operating system that is the damn offspring of VMS and OS/2 with some MS-DOS legacy crap baked in, if you want the full-fledged developer tools from the OS manufacturer you have to pay hundreds of dollars for them or settle for free alternatives. Operating system is almost completely proprietary. Frequently uses proprietary MS-only "standards" or extensions to standards that make the implementation incompatible with other operating systems.

Double the price? really?

Ok, prove it. Find me a pre-built PC with the following specs for less than $999 (half the price of the equivalent mac ):
Quadcore i5, 3.1GHz
27" IPS monitor @ 2560x1440 resolution
4 GB 1333MHz RAM (expandable to at least 16 GB)
Radeon HD 6970M 1 GB

(Here's a hint: the 27" monitor alone will cost you $700+)


And my case has been rested.

Nope.avi

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DAVEYtheTUFFGUY wrote

Intel_2500k wrote

Zilla wrote Mac -> pre-built, great industrial design, UNIX operating system with free developer tools for a wide variety of languages included with the operating system. Runs pretty much any open source software for *nix systems (including just about all software that runs on Linux systems), large parts of the OS are open source. Generally uses established open standards under the hood with an easy-to-use GUI tool for regular users.

Wintel machine -> You have to research carefully when building or buying since everyone claims their machine/component is the greatest thing since sliced bread, Operating system that is the damn offspring of VMS and OS/2 with some MS-DOS legacy crap baked in, if you want the full-fledged developer tools from the OS manufacturer you have to pay hundreds of dollars for them or settle for free alternatives. Operating system is almost completely proprietary. Frequently uses proprietary MS-only "standards" or extensions to standards that make the implementation incompatible with other operating systems.

Double the price? really?

Ok, prove it. Find me a pre-built PC with the following specs for less than $999 (half the price of the equivalent mac ):
Quadcore i5, 3.1GHz
27" IPS monitor @ 2560x1440 resolution
4 GB 1333MHz RAM (expandable to at least 16 GB)
Radeon HD 6970M 1 GB

(Here's a hint: the 27" monitor alone will cost you $700+)


And my case has been rested.

Nope.avi

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What?

Intel_2500k wrote

DAVEYtheTUFFGUY wrote

Intel_2500k wrote

Zilla wrote Mac -> pre-built, great industrial design, UNIX operating system with free developer tools for a wide variety of languages included with the operating system. Runs pretty much any open source software for *nix systems (including just about all software that runs on Linux systems), large parts of the OS are open source. Generally uses established open standards under the hood with an easy-to-use GUI tool for regular users.

Wintel machine -> You have to research carefully when building or buying since everyone claims their machine/component is the greatest thing since sliced bread, Operating system that is the damn offspring of VMS and OS/2 with some MS-DOS legacy crap baked in, if you want the full-fledged developer tools from the OS manufacturer you have to pay hundreds of dollars for them or settle for free alternatives. Operating system is almost completely proprietary. Frequently uses proprietary MS-only "standards" or extensions to standards that make the implementation incompatible with other operating systems.

Double the price? really?

Ok, prove it. Find me a pre-built PC with the following specs for less than $999 (half the price of the equivalent mac ):
Quadcore i5, 3.1GHz
27" IPS monitor @ 2560x1440 resolution
4 GB 1333MHz RAM (expandable to at least 16 GB)
Radeon HD 6970M 1 GB

(Here's a hint: the 27" monitor alone will cost you $700+)


And my case has been rested.

Nope.avi

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What?

First of all there is no price and secondly he said pre-built.

Minnesota_Nice wrote

Intel_2500k wrote

DAVEYtheTUFFGUY wrote

Intel_2500k wrote

Zilla wrote Mac -> pre-built, great industrial design, UNIX operating system with free developer tools for a wide variety of languages included with the operating system. Runs pretty much any open source software for *nix systems (including just about all software that runs on Linux systems), large parts of the OS are open source. Generally uses established open standards under the hood with an easy-to-use GUI tool for regular users.

Wintel machine -> You have to research carefully when building or buying since everyone claims their machine/component is the greatest thing since sliced bread, Operating system that is the damn offspring of VMS and OS/2 with some MS-DOS legacy crap baked in, if you want the full-fledged developer tools from the OS manufacturer you have to pay hundreds of dollars for them or settle for free alternatives. Operating system is almost completely proprietary. Frequently uses proprietary MS-only "standards" or extensions to standards that make the implementation incompatible with other operating systems.

Double the price? really?

Ok, prove it. Find me a pre-built PC with the following specs for less than $999 (half the price of the equivalent mac ):
Quadcore i5, 3.1GHz
27" IPS monitor @ 2560x1440 resolution
4 GB 1333MHz RAM (expandable to at least 16 GB)
Radeon HD 6970M 1 GB

(Here's a hint: the 27" monitor alone will cost you $700+)


And my case has been rested.

Nope.avi

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What?

First of all there is no price and secondly he said pre-built.

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$90 more for WAY better components.

A: Not half the price
B: Not prebuilt

There were only two criteria and you didn't meet either of them.

Intel_2500k wrote

DAVEYtheTUFFGUY wrote

Intel_2500k wrote

Zilla wrote Mac -> pre-built, great industrial design, UNIX operating system with free developer tools for a wide variety of languages included with the operating system. Runs pretty much any open source software for *nix systems (including just about all software that runs on Linux systems), large parts of the OS are open source. Generally uses established open standards under the hood with an easy-to-use GUI tool for regular users.

Wintel machine -> You have to research carefully when building or buying since everyone claims their machine/component is the greatest thing since sliced bread, Operating system that is the damn offspring of VMS and OS/2 with some MS-DOS legacy crap baked in, if you want the full-fledged developer tools from the OS manufacturer you have to pay hundreds of dollars for them or settle for free alternatives. Operating system is almost completely proprietary. Frequently uses proprietary MS-only "standards" or extensions to standards that make the implementation incompatible with other operating systems.

Double the price? really?

Ok, prove it. Find me a pre-built PC with the following specs for less than $999 (half the price of the equivalent mac ):
Quadcore i5, 3.1GHz
27" IPS monitor @ 2560x1440 resolution
4 GB 1333MHz RAM (expandable to at least 16 GB)
Radeon HD 6970M 1 GB

(Here's a hint: the 27" monitor alone will cost you $700+)


And my case has been rested.

Nope.avi

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Minnesota_Nice wrote A: Not half the price
B: Not prebuilt

There were only two criteria and you didn't meet either of them.

Prebuilt = Crap

My argument still stands, the components are better, for $90 more. Better Mobo, Ram, GPU, PSU.

Intel_2500k wrote

Minnesota_Nice wrote A: Not half the price
B: Not prebuilt

There were only two criteria and you didn't meet either of them.

Prebuilt = Crap

My argument still stands, the components are better, for $90 more. Better Mobo, Ram, GPU, PSU.

Nope.

I have a MacBook pro and it sucks I use windows forever now macs can get viruses apple recalled some macs because people thought they couldn't get viruses but they really could plus with windows you can do way more windows is much better you would of been better off buyIng a custom built pc

Intel_2500k wrote

Minnesota_Nice wrote A: Not half the price
B: Not prebuilt

There were only two criteria and you didn't meet either of them.

Prebuilt = Crap

My argument still stands, the components are better, for $90 more. Better Mobo, Ram, GPU, PSU.

Prebuilt doesn't mean it's crap.

Take my Mac Book Pro for example.

Every single person in my firm uses a Mac, do you know why every single person in my firm uses a Mac? Because they do not suck, the screens are fantastic, the build is very nice, they are perfect with the most versions of CS and run them fantastically, all of our devices are compatible, they look great in our office too.

You couldn't convince a single person in my firm to switch from Apple to PC if you put a gun to their head. It's as simple as that.