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Uncertainty wrote The only people who hate macbooks are gamers and kids that cant afford them.
People actually believe this?
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I understand that but people think that the only thing you are paying for when buying a laptop are tech specs.
The build quality of a Mac is fantastic, once again I always have to bring this up. It's sleek, no loose ends, everything closes nice and tight and it's very sharp looking. Not to mention the material it's made of really slides in and out of back packs and cases really nicely which isn't something you think about when buying it but it's a nice thing to have.
The operating system to some people sucks because it's not as easy to tinker with compared to something like Ubuntu or even Windows. I quite like the OS because it's very good looking and makes my workflow a bit better.
It's amazingly powerful too people always say "Oh with that money you could have got this processor and graphics card with XGHz more and more RAM." That's not always necessary, I run extremely memory dependent programs all day at work on my Mac Book Pro and quite often more than one. Most of the Adobe Creative Suite actually and there is never a moment where it lags or can not handle running the programs.
And honestly, Mac Book Pro's look good. Apple did a great job making a name for themselves. Is it ideal for someone who is looking for a good power to cost ratio? Probably not.
This whole "Macs suck" argument is honest to god the most annoying thing ever because 95% of people who say that Macs suck just go off the opinion of other people who make long posts about how they don't like apple products.
The build quality of a Mac is fantastic, once again I always have to bring this up. It's sleek, no loose ends, everything closes nice and tight and it's very sharp looking. Not to mention the material it's made of really slides in and out of back packs and cases really nicely which isn't something you think about when buying it but it's a nice thing to have.
The operating system to some people sucks because it's not as easy to tinker with compared to something like Ubuntu or even Windows. I quite like the OS because it's very good looking and makes my workflow a bit better.
It's amazingly powerful too people always say "Oh with that money you could have got this processor and graphics card with XGHz more and more RAM." That's not always necessary, I run extremely memory dependent programs all day at work on my Mac Book Pro and quite often more than one. Most of the Adobe Creative Suite actually and there is never a moment where it lags or can not handle running the programs.
And honestly, Mac Book Pro's look good. Apple did a great job making a name for themselves. Is it ideal for someone who is looking for a good power to cost ratio? Probably not.
This whole "Macs suck" argument is honest to god the most annoying thing ever because 95% of people who say that Macs suck just go off the opinion of other people who make long posts about how they don't like apple products.
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Spoiled lazy kid too stupid to do research.
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Minnesota_Nice wrote I understand that but people think that the only thing you are paying for when buying a laptop are tech specs.
The build quality of a Mac is fantastic, once again I always have to bring this up. It's sleek, no loose ends, everything closes nice and tight and it's very sharp looking. Not to mention the material it's made of really slides in and out of back packs and cases really nicely which isn't something you think about when buying it but it's a nice thing to have.
The operating system to some people sucks because it's not as easy to tinker with compared to something like Ubuntu or even Windows. I quite like the OS because it's very good looking and makes my workflow a bit better.
It's amazingly powerful too people always say "Oh with that money you could have got this processor and graphics card with XGHz more and more RAM." That's not always necessary, I run extremely memory dependent programs all day at work on my Mac Book Pro and quite often more than one. Most of the Adobe Creative Suite actually and there is never a moment where it lags or can not handle running the programs.
And honestly, Mac Book Pro's look good. Apple did a great job making a name for themselves. Is it ideal for someone who is looking for a good power to cost ratio? Probably not.
This whole "Macs suck" argument is honest to god the most annoying thing ever because 95% of people who say that Macs suck just go off the opinion of other people who make long posts about how they don't like apple products.
I agree with you that specs are far from the most important thing with laptops. I hate when people make that argument, because they're basically saying... Well... I ain't typing it again. Here's the Macbook section of my written view on Macs. It does need to be updated, keep in mind.
Macbooks: As with all Macs, you'll get better performance per dollar out of another computer. But there's much more to a computer than just pure performance and specs mean much less for laptops than they do with desktops. Macbooks are remarkably good laptops, definitely some of the best. I'll give them this. If I said they were bad laptops, I'd be full of crap. The problem with them is that they're just not as good as other offerings, and I'll explain why in as much detail as I can.
1. Glossy displays. There is no point in a glossy panel besides making the colors falsely appear more vivid. A glossy finish makes the screen much more prone to fingerprints and glare is a huge issue. In short, matte panels are far superior to glossy panels.
2. Build quality. They're built well in that they are well-assembled, but durability is awful. Aluminum dents extremely easily and the unibody design does not allow for easy replacement of parts of the enclosure. Warping frequently causes problems with the hinge, which often results in a broken display cable and/or a loose screen. I deal with a lot of Macbooks daily, and this is a disturbingly common problem. Much like the iPhone, the design does not allow for resistance to impact damage. Impacts will cause warping and cracked LCDs very easily.
3. Heat management. Using any Macbook for CPU-intensive tasks reveals this problem. The cooling design is not effective enough and temperatures skyrocket almost immediately, causing the fan(s) to ramp up to max speed. This becomes extremely loud, but it's still not enough. Temperatures stay dangerously high under load and because aluminum is a good conductor of heat, it goes right to whatever surface it is on, like your thigh. In theory, this should help with heat dissipation, but Macbooks still run too hot and that heat is transferred to places you notice it, like the keyboard, bottom, and palm rests. This is one of many examples of Apple's form-over-function design principles causing problems that could have been easily avoided.
4. The specs are not up to par with other similarly-priced laptops. Apple computers perform far worse than comparable PCs, and this is not limited to the Macbook line. Still, laptops in particular are much more than pure specs. Macbooks have some things that don't show up on a specs sheet, like solid trackpads, unibody construction, and a pretty design. A cheap Toshiba laptop with the same specs can't compare to the Macbook due to factors like build quality, design, size, weight, looks, and trackpad quality. Macbooks focus on the intangibles of the user experience, while many PC manufacturers strive for the best specs on paper. Still, that does not mean Macbooks are the only computers with these traits. Lenovo Thinkpads, for example, place less of an emphasis on raw horsepower in favor of quality, but in a completely different approach from Apple's. Thinkpads focus on user experience and prioritize things that make a laptop a good laptop, like ease of use, battery life, screen finish, keyboard quality, input, reliability, and durability. Given the specs compared to other computers, yes, you do pay a premium for both brands. What you get is a better user-experience, which is what laptops should be about. It explains the surge of Ultrabooks into the market with their reduced processing power but great storage speed, portability, battery life, weight, and size.
1. Glossy displays. There is no point in a glossy panel besides making the colors falsely appear more vivid. A glossy finish makes the screen much more prone to fingerprints and glare is a huge issue. In short, matte panels are far superior to glossy panels.
2. Build quality. They're built well in that they are well-assembled, but durability is awful. Aluminum dents extremely easily and the unibody design does not allow for easy replacement of parts of the enclosure. Warping frequently causes problems with the hinge, which often results in a broken display cable and/or a loose screen. I deal with a lot of Macbooks daily, and this is a disturbingly common problem. Much like the iPhone, the design does not allow for resistance to impact damage. Impacts will cause warping and cracked LCDs very easily.
3. Heat management. Using any Macbook for CPU-intensive tasks reveals this problem. The cooling design is not effective enough and temperatures skyrocket almost immediately, causing the fan(s) to ramp up to max speed. This becomes extremely loud, but it's still not enough. Temperatures stay dangerously high under load and because aluminum is a good conductor of heat, it goes right to whatever surface it is on, like your thigh. In theory, this should help with heat dissipation, but Macbooks still run too hot and that heat is transferred to places you notice it, like the keyboard, bottom, and palm rests. This is one of many examples of Apple's form-over-function design principles causing problems that could have been easily avoided.
4. The specs are not up to par with other similarly-priced laptops. Apple computers perform far worse than comparable PCs, and this is not limited to the Macbook line. Still, laptops in particular are much more than pure specs. Macbooks have some things that don't show up on a specs sheet, like solid trackpads, unibody construction, and a pretty design. A cheap Toshiba laptop with the same specs can't compare to the Macbook due to factors like build quality, design, size, weight, looks, and trackpad quality. Macbooks focus on the intangibles of the user experience, while many PC manufacturers strive for the best specs on paper. Still, that does not mean Macbooks are the only computers with these traits. Lenovo Thinkpads, for example, place less of an emphasis on raw horsepower in favor of quality, but in a completely different approach from Apple's. Thinkpads focus on user experience and prioritize things that make a laptop a good laptop, like ease of use, battery life, screen finish, keyboard quality, input, reliability, and durability. Given the specs compared to other computers, yes, you do pay a premium for both brands. What you get is a better user-experience, which is what laptops should be about. It explains the surge of Ultrabooks into the market with their reduced processing power but great storage speed, portability, battery life, weight, and size.
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r00t_b33r wroteMinnesota_Nice wrote I love my Mac Book Pro, every one here hates because they think it's all about getting the best for your money and having some gaming machine.
I wouldn't trade my Mac Book Pro for anything, I love it.
If it's gaming someone wants, it's gaming they should get. Even if you're not gaming, it doesn't change the fact that there are better choices than Macs.
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Like delicious Thinkpads. *drool*
My high school has those exact lap tops cause I broke one there terrible hahaha
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Original_Vice wroter00t_b33r wroteMinnesota_Nice wrote I love my Mac Book Pro, every one here hates because they think it's all about getting the best for your money and having some gaming machine.
I wouldn't trade my Mac Book Pro for anything, I love it.
If it's gaming someone wants, it's gaming they should get. Even if you're not gaming, it doesn't change the fact that there are better choices than Macs.
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Like delicious Thinkpads. *drool*
My high school has those exact lap tops cause I broke one there terrible hahaha
Wow, clearly you know absolutely nothing about laptops.
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r00t_b33r wroteMinnesota_Nice wrote I love my Mac Book Pro, every one here hates because they think it's all about getting the best for your money and having some gaming machine.
I wouldn't trade my Mac Book Pro for anything, I love it.
If it's gaming someone wants, it's gaming they should get. Even if you're not gaming, it doesn't change the fact that there are better choices than Macs.
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Like delicious Thinkpads. *drool*
Last year my teacher punched his ThinkPad and yelled "bad!" 0.o I've never had problems with them though, good choice
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Minnesota_Nice wrote I love my Mac Book Pro, every one here hates because they think it's all about getting the best for your money and having some gaming machine.
I wouldn't trade my Mac Book Pro for anything, I love it.
Typical blind sheep following the heard. I know you're an idiot from your last thread when you didn't care about spending more for less so your opinion and voice has no credibility. If you actually think spending $1,700 on ANY notebook and not getting an SSD is a half decent buy, you're brain-dead considering the HP Folio which is half the price is going to be faster in day to day operations and outbench this thing 200:1. Hell, a $350 AMD APU build would be faster than this if you throw in a 64gb Crucial M4. It's amazing what marketing can do to ignorant customers, isn't it? I mean, if they advertised a piece of crap on a stick and put their famous logo on it, I guarantee you'd buy that as well for a couple of hundred dollars.
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I wouldn't be to proud if I were you.
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$1,700 is a lot of money for a laptop, lol.
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