Proof? I highly doubt they can remove the 4th amendment without making it look very suspicious.

-Marvin- wrote Proof? I highly doubt they can remove the 4th amendment without making it look very suspicious.

Since terrorist supposedly got bye the medal detectors, they removed the 4th amendment so they can search us. That is the point they plant fake threats to remove our freedom, bit by bit.

Cry wrote

-Marvin- wrote Proof? I highly doubt they can remove the 4th amendment without making it look very suspicious.

Since terrorist supposedly got bye the medal detectors, they removed the 4th amendment so they can search us. That is the point they plant fake threats to remove our freedom, bit by bit.

Don't think it will happen in 2012...

-Marvin- wrote Proof? I highly doubt they can remove the 4th amendment without making it look very suspicious.

Yea, just search up the NDAA. It states any US citizen can be imprisoned, killed, or tortured without due process (which connot be so because of the Fourth Amendment.) The NDAA is real and is a real problem.

Straight-Edge wrote

-Marvin- wrote Proof? I highly doubt they can remove the 4th amendment without making it look very suspicious.

Yea, just search up the NDAA. It states any US citizen can be imprisoned, killed, or tortured without due process (which connot be so because of the Fourth Amendment.) The NDAA is real and is a real problem.

I didn't know about the torturing part, but yes they are indeed a big problem.

They never took away the fourth Amendment right. What they did is added the P.A.T.R.I.O.T act. In this act it states that if the government suspects you are part of a terrorist group or your planning to do a act of terror against the United States, that they can bypass some restrictions in the 4th Amendment to protect the citizens of the United States. So in some cases you are right, but i do not think anything is going to change on that day besides maybe a few degrees in the temperature. We have a democracy, so we are the government. The people in the white house and such are here to protect us. They would not hurt their own nation. What happened on 9/11 was a terrorist attack. The United States did not accuse Osama, Osama claimed the attack was his. He even sent videos of him claiming what he did and later threats against our nation. If you really think the United States did it explain flight 93. Now please give me more examples of this "Problem, Reaction, Solution" theory. This is the first i have heard of that. I have not seen any other crisis or theory that the United States supposedly used that solution. All and all nothing is going to happen on 12/21/12.

Neon_Blue wrote They never took away the fourth Amendment right. What they did is added the P.A.T.R.I.O.T act. In this act it states that if the government suspects you are part of a terrorist group or your planning to do a act of terror against the United States, that they can bypass some restrictions in the 4th Amendment to protect the citizens of the United States. So in some cases you are right, but i do not think anything is going to change on that day besides maybe a few degrees in the temperature. We have a democracy, so we are the government. The people in the white house and such are here to protect us. They would not hurt their own nation. What happened on 9/11 was a terrorist attack. The United States did not accuse Osama, Osama claimed the attack was his. He even sent videos of him claiming what he did and later threats against our nation. If you really think the United States did it explain flight 93. Now please give me more examples of this "Problem, Reaction, Solution" theory. This is the first i have heard of that. I have not seen any other crisis or theory that the United States supposedly used that solution. All and all nothing is going to happen on 12/21/12.

I don't believe anything will happen in 2012 but Germany was a democracy as well and you saw what happened with Hitler.I don't believe anything like a New World Order would happen though.It's just good to stay on your toes and watch out...

Ok, i get what you are saying. But tell me how our freedom is being taken away. Our Government is only taking the steps that need to be taken to end war or in the case you stated react to stop further problems.

What every happens i will not go before i have my last cup of tea :coffee:

-Marvin- wrote

Neon_Blue wrote They never took away the fourth Amendment right. What they did is added the P.A.T.R.I.O.T act. In this act it states that if the government suspects you are part of a terrorist group or your planning to do a act of terror against the United States, that they can bypass some restrictions in the 4th Amendment to protect the citizens of the United States. So in some cases you are right, but i do not think anything is going to change on that day besides maybe a few degrees in the temperature. We have a democracy, so we are the government. The people in the white house and such are here to protect us. They would not hurt their own nation. What happened on 9/11 was a terrorist attack. The United States did not accuse Osama, Osama claimed the attack was his. He even sent videos of him claiming what he did and later threats against our nation. If you really think the United States did it explain flight 93. Now please give me more examples of this "Problem, Reaction, Solution" theory. This is the first i have heard of that. I have not seen any other crisis or theory that the United States supposedly used that solution. All and all nothing is going to happen on 12/21/12.

I don't believe anything will happen in 2012 but Germany was a democracy as well and you saw what happened with Hitler.I don't believe anything like a New World Order would happen though.It's just good to stay on your toes and watch out...

Also don't forget the lie that the U.S. told to get us into the Vietnam War. Look at Operation Northwoods. That right their tells you that our government would attack their own country. I don't see how you can call our government a true democracy anymore. Our government basically owns us now and is far more secretive than they have ever been. I am very sure there is a government within the government that controls basically everything they do.