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Higuain wroteInfinityWardrobe wroteHiguain wroteInfinityWardrobe wroteHiguain wroteInfinityWardrobe wroteHiguain wroteInfinityWardrobe wroteJinx wroteInfinityWardrobe wroteJinx wrote Super Mario is also in my mind.
This is one of the most incoherent arguments for Gods existence I have ever read, or it's late and i'm not understanding what you're insinuating.
Please correct me if i'm wrong, but are you stating that because something exists within your mind it exists within reality?
Super Mario need not be the greatest thing in existence so it doesnt need to hold the quality of existence. By God being the Greatest idea of the universe it must hold the quality of Existence. There are more powerful things than Mario but not more powerful things than God
You also agree that to exist is better than not existing. Because God is all powerful and in order to claim the "title" of the creator of the universe
1) How does me believing that existing is better than not existing make God all powerful?
2) How does something being the greatest thing imaginable make it exist? or hold the quality of existence?
What if I were to make the greatest car ever up in my head and because it is the greatest car ever does that mean that it holds the quality of existence?
No. That makes it a fictional thing that has no place in reality.
I'm either not understanding this argument or my mind has finally been blown.
You have slightly misunderstood the argument at hand.
The greatest car in the world. If it were to appear in your head then sure it can stay as a thought of your head but God needs to fulfil all parts of life in order to be the creator so if you are an atheist you know that God is the all powerful PERFECT being which you so reject. If he was perfect he would need to have every quality or attribute of life itself and one of those is existence. If God did not exist he wouldn't not be perfect and then there would therefore be a more perfect being with a higher stature than God that did exist and possessed all the qualities of everyone and thing. In order to be "God" you must be idyllic and by being a part of existence you are holding one of the potentially infinite amounts of traits a being can have.
"so if you are an atheist you know that God is the all powerful PERFECT being which you so reject."
I'm an atheist, and we believe the **** opposite. GOD IS NOT THE PERFECT BEING WHICH YOU STATE, YOU'RE MAKING ME SLAM MY HEAD INTO MY KEYBOARD. HUGUHGUHGUFDWFQUIHVUIC\S-0RT34I0GIFJIEDWQJIJIFEHT3UI9J8ID
hahaha. If you hadn't tried a tomato before you wouldnt be able to know if you liked it or not. Without knowing the definition of God, and by definition, god is the all powerful being of omnipotence and perfection, you wouldnt be able to judge your opinion. So by knowing what God is, you still openly oppose it which is fine im just saying you need to accept that what you dont believe in is an omnipotent being of ultimate perfection. that you cannot deny.
Wait so.. if i don't believe in something then it's true?
So if i don't believe that it was right for The Nazis to kill millions of people, that makes it right?
You disgust me you "livebythebible" boy.
Are you going to be able to see behind your big headedness. I didnt say any of that at all did I ? Also how about you read what i said in my second post. Im not a Christian i just believe in a creator. The bible is a load of misconstrued shite which is closely related to your head at the moment. Im not doing anything wrong just stating my opinion and yet i disgust you? Its people like you that are the main reason for religious wars, a belief so strong they refuse to accept other people having different ones. If you dont have anything actually valuable to say then just piss off you cretin
Cretin? You believe in a magical fairy pixie who can zap thin air and make gravy instantly.
You're the Cretin, YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THAT YOU HAVE NO REASON FOR EXISTENCE, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO IN LIFE, YOU ARE NOT NEEDED, YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THAT, THEREFORE YOU RANT ABOUT YOUR DUMB **** ******** OPINION
My Belief ^^^^^^^^
Anyways, i'm sick of arguing with an idiotic useless piece of dirt, goodbye.
Why am I a piece of Dirt? I dont believe in what you do, doesnt make me wrong and by you reacting as aggresively as this you seem to be the one that is more dumb than myself. I find it quite hilarious how this was all just my opinion yet you some how managed to make it personal. I dont like your opinion, im not flaming at you, you have to understand that other people are allowed to disagree with you and a belief is something you are entitled to and just because you are being 100% irrational and pathetic about this doesnt mean i need to give into what i believe in.
You do not share your opinion, i post a reason why yours does not make sense, you then post dumb idiotic rhetorical questions which NOBODY asked and answer them yourself.
Now i think you're the cretin who requires some sunlight.
You post an opinion as to why mine "doesn't" make sense. That being evolution, get over it kid you're just mad that there are people that disagree with you. What are you? Autistic? Idiot.
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HAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wroteIve got a nice pair according to my girlfriend. you sir will be the one rotting in hell for all eternity, Honestly, no one can prove that god is male or female. That will all come at the final day of judgement, which you will be turned away at to go to hell for denying the father. I hope satan sodomizes you every day for all eternity.HAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wrotewell sir, i for one dont have to **** off, i have a right to free speech, and yea, what created evolution? what created what to create evolution, what created the world so that evolution could occur, what created the space that the world is in with the gasses and molecules, what created anything? You believe this was all just "Bam!" were here! . NO. God was here to create everything in 6 days. What created god? No one knows but him.HAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wrote What a load of ****.You sir are the idiot, if evolution is the answer, what created something for evoution? You were going to say, the big bang theory created everything. But what created the big bang? Something had to create something to create the big bang. There was NOTHING, no gases, molecules, or anything, what could have "sparked" (sparking requires energy and gases which there was none of) the big bang? God. How did god get here? No one but him knows. Something had to create something that would create another thing which later on would cause evolution in the primorial ooze to being evolution. Let me guess, you believe that everything was just here and nothing created it? Impossible. If your gonna ask about that last statement, refer to what I said at the beginning and read it again.
You're using rhetorical questions to seem like you're correct.
It is CLEAR that evolution is the answer, if you think otherwise, Sure, go for it, But you're an idiot.
Read my post and tell me where i mention the big bang.
You're just looking for something to pick at. Mind **** off? i didn't say a word about the big bang.
HIM? Are you implying GOD IS MALE?
Where is your evidence to support this claim?
This is preposterous! YOU CANNOT CLAIM THE OHMIGHTY GOD IS MALE! YOU WILL GO TO HELL
YOU WILL ROT IN HELL YOU DIRTY CRETIN.
Get where i'm coming from? Grow a pair.
No one can prove that God exists, only provide a theory.
i rest my case.
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Higuain wroteInfinityWardrobe wroteHiguain wroteInfinityWardrobe wroteHiguain wroteInfinityWardrobe wroteJinx wroteInfinityWardrobe wroteJinx wrote Super Mario is also in my mind.
This is one of the most incoherent arguments for Gods existence I have ever read, or it's late and i'm not understanding what you're insinuating.
Please correct me if i'm wrong, but are you stating that because something exists within your mind it exists within reality?
Super Mario need not be the greatest thing in existence so it doesnt need to hold the quality of existence. By God being the Greatest idea of the universe it must hold the quality of Existence. There are more powerful things than Mario but not more powerful things than God
You also agree that to exist is better than not existing. Because God is all powerful and in order to claim the "title" of the creator of the universe
1) How does me believing that existing is better than not existing make God all powerful?
2) How does something being the greatest thing imaginable make it exist? or hold the quality of existence?
What if I were to make the greatest car ever up in my head and because it is the greatest car ever does that mean that it holds the quality of existence?
No. That makes it a fictional thing that has no place in reality.
I'm either not understanding this argument or my mind has finally been blown.
You have slightly misunderstood the argument at hand.
The greatest car in the world. If it were to appear in your head then sure it can stay as a thought of your head but God needs to fulfil all parts of life in order to be the creator so if you are an atheist you know that God is the all powerful PERFECT being which you so reject. If he was perfect he would need to have every quality or attribute of life itself and one of those is existence. If God did not exist he wouldn't not be perfect and then there would therefore be a more perfect being with a higher stature than God that did exist and possessed all the qualities of everyone and thing. In order to be "God" you must be idyllic and by being a part of existence you are holding one of the potentially infinite amounts of traits a being can have.
"so if you are an atheist you know that God is the all powerful PERFECT being which you so reject."
I'm an atheist, and we believe the **** opposite. GOD IS NOT THE PERFECT BEING WHICH YOU STATE, YOU'RE MAKING ME SLAM MY HEAD INTO MY KEYBOARD. HUGUHGUHGUFDWFQUIHVUIC\S-0RT34I0GIFJIEDWQJIJIFEHT3UI9J8ID
hahaha. If you hadn't tried a tomato before you wouldnt be able to know if you liked it or not. Without knowing the definition of God, and by definition, god is the all powerful being of omnipotence and perfection, you wouldnt be able to judge your opinion. So by knowing what God is, you still openly oppose it which is fine im just saying you need to accept that what you dont believe in is an omnipotent being of ultimate perfection. that you cannot deny.
Wait so.. if i don't believe in something then it's true?
So if i don't believe that it was right for The Nazis to kill millions of people, that makes it right?
You disgust me you "livebythebible" boy.
Are you going to be able to see behind your big headedness. I didnt say any of that at all did I ? Also how about you read what i said in my second post. Im not a Christian i just believe in a creator. The bible is a load of misconstrued shite which is closely related to your head at the moment. Im not doing anything wrong just stating my opinion and yet i disgust you? Its people like you that are the main reason for religious wars, a belief so strong they refuse to accept other people having different ones. If you dont have anything actually valuable to say then just piss off you cretin
Cretin? You believe in a magical fairy pixie who can zap thin air and make gravy instantly.
You're the Cretin, YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THAT YOU HAVE NO REASON FOR EXISTENCE, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO IN LIFE, YOU ARE NOT NEEDED, YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THAT, THEREFORE YOU RANT ABOUT YOUR DUMB **** ******** OPINION
My Belief ^^^^^^^^
Anyways, i'm sick of arguing with an idiotic useless piece of dirt, goodbye.
You're telling him he has no reason for existence? And that he has nothing to do in life? You're just making the conversation even worse. Please, go back and cuddle with your mommy in bed. (:
OT: I believe in God. I don't care what anyone else says. What I believe in is all that matters to me. So if you don't like it, I could care less.
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Higuain wroteYouve never seen the videos about the people who have actually died and went to heaven and came back, no theory to it, he exists, your just mad because you cant prove me or the other guy wrong.HAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wroteIve got a nice pair according to my girlfriend. you sir will be the one rotting in hell for all eternity, Honestly, no one can prove that god is male or female. That will all come at the final day of judgement, which you will be turned away at to go to hell for denying the father. I hope satan sodomizes you every day for all eternity.HAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wrotewell sir, i for one dont have to **** off, i have a right to free speech, and yea, what created evolution? what created what to create evolution, what created the world so that evolution could occur, what created the space that the world is in with the gasses and molecules, what created anything? You believe this was all just "Bam!" were here! . NO. God was here to create everything in 6 days. What created god? No one knows but him.HAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wrote What a load of ****.You sir are the idiot, if evolution is the answer, what created something for evoution? You were going to say, the big bang theory created everything. But what created the big bang? Something had to create something to create the big bang. There was NOTHING, no gases, molecules, or anything, what could have "sparked" (sparking requires energy and gases which there was none of) the big bang? God. How did god get here? No one but him knows. Something had to create something that would create another thing which later on would cause evolution in the primorial ooze to being evolution. Let me guess, you believe that everything was just here and nothing created it? Impossible. If your gonna ask about that last statement, refer to what I said at the beginning and read it again.
You're using rhetorical questions to seem like you're correct.
It is CLEAR that evolution is the answer, if you think otherwise, Sure, go for it, But you're an idiot.
Read my post and tell me where i mention the big bang.
You're just looking for something to pick at. Mind **** off? i didn't say a word about the big bang.
HIM? Are you implying GOD IS MALE?
Where is your evidence to support this claim?
This is preposterous! YOU CANNOT CLAIM THE OHMIGHTY GOD IS MALE! YOU WILL GO TO HELL
YOU WILL ROT IN HELL YOU DIRTY CRETIN.
Get where i'm coming from? Grow a pair.
No one can prove that God exists, only provide a theory.
i rest my case.
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HAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wroteYouve never seen the videos about the people who have actually died and went to heaven and came back, no theory to it, he exists, your just mad because you cant prove me or the other guy wrong.HAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wroteIve got a nice pair according to my girlfriend. you sir will be the one rotting in hell for all eternity, Honestly, no one can prove that god is male or female. That will all come at the final day of judgement, which you will be turned away at to go to hell for denying the father. I hope satan sodomizes you every day for all eternity.HAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wrotewell sir, i for one dont have to **** off, i have a right to free speech, and yea, what created evolution? what created what to create evolution, what created the world so that evolution could occur, what created the space that the world is in with the gasses and molecules, what created anything? You believe this was all just "Bam!" were here! . NO. God was here to create everything in 6 days. What created god? No one knows but him.HAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wrote What a load of ****.You sir are the idiot, if evolution is the answer, what created something for evoution? You were going to say, the big bang theory created everything. But what created the big bang? Something had to create something to create the big bang. There was NOTHING, no gases, molecules, or anything, what could have "sparked" (sparking requires energy and gases which there was none of) the big bang? God. How did god get here? No one but him knows. Something had to create something that would create another thing which later on would cause evolution in the primorial ooze to being evolution. Let me guess, you believe that everything was just here and nothing created it? Impossible. If your gonna ask about that last statement, refer to what I said at the beginning and read it again.
You're using rhetorical questions to seem like you're correct.
It is CLEAR that evolution is the answer, if you think otherwise, Sure, go for it, But you're an idiot.
Read my post and tell me where i mention the big bang.
You're just looking for something to pick at. Mind **** off? i didn't say a word about the big bang.
HIM? Are you implying GOD IS MALE?
Where is your evidence to support this claim?
This is preposterous! YOU CANNOT CLAIM THE OHMIGHTY GOD IS MALE! YOU WILL GO TO HELL
YOU WILL ROT IN HELL YOU DIRTY CRETIN.
Get where i'm coming from? Grow a pair.
No one can prove that God exists, only provide a theory.
i rest my case.
Did they take pictures while on the other side? No. So I am suppose to rely on their story? I have dreams every night, does it mean I went and did the things in them? These people's heads were stiill intact, so there brains created a dream. They were having a dream and nothing more.
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Higuain wroteHAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wroteIve got a nice pair according to my girlfriend. you sir will be the one rotting in hell for all eternity, Honestly, no one can prove that god is male or female. That will all come at the final day of judgement, which you will be turned away at to go to hell for denying the father. I hope satan sodomizes you every day for all eternity.HAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wrotewell sir, i for one dont have to **** off, i have a right to free speech, and yea, what created evolution? what created what to create evolution, what created the world so that evolution could occur, what created the space that the world is in with the gasses and molecules, what created anything? You believe this was all just "Bam!" were here! . NO. God was here to create everything in 6 days. What created god? No one knows but him.HAXINATOR_HD wroteHiguain wrote What a load of ****.You sir are the idiot, if evolution is the answer, what created something for evoution? You were going to say, the big bang theory created everything. But what created the big bang? Something had to create something to create the big bang. There was NOTHING, no gases, molecules, or anything, what could have "sparked" (sparking requires energy and gases which there was none of) the big bang? God. How did god get here? No one but him knows. Something had to create something that would create another thing which later on would cause evolution in the primorial ooze to being evolution. Let me guess, you believe that everything was just here and nothing created it? Impossible. If your gonna ask about that last statement, refer to what I said at the beginning and read it again.
You're using rhetorical questions to seem like you're correct.
It is CLEAR that evolution is the answer, if you think otherwise, Sure, go for it, But you're an idiot.
Read my post and tell me where i mention the big bang.
You're just looking for something to pick at. Mind **** off? i didn't say a word about the big bang.
HIM? Are you implying GOD IS MALE?
Where is your evidence to support this claim?
This is preposterous! YOU CANNOT CLAIM THE OHMIGHTY GOD IS MALE! YOU WILL GO TO HELL
YOU WILL ROT IN HELL YOU DIRTY CRETIN.
Get where i'm coming from? Grow a pair.
No one can prove that God exists, only provide a theory.
i rest my case.
No one can prove that Evolution exists, only provide a theory.
i rest my case.
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just sayin I have better proof than ur little test. Search up teh laminin protein on every single cell in your body. It's shaped in the exact dimensions of the cross Jesus died on. Search up the people who uncovered noah's ark. Find the number that we got so "lucky" to achieve to be able for the universe to sustain life. You can't deny their is a greater force at task. Most scientists actually believe that God is real because there's no explanation to other reasons.
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well this is the most boring topic in the world... its not the history channel btw! -_-
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I must admit i've taken this too far and made it personal.
Sorry to the other two people here, you believe in something different, which i may find ridiculous but whatever, sorry.
Sorry to the other two people here, you believe in something different, which i may find ridiculous but whatever, sorry.
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You are the stupidest person I have seen on this site... Give up, your points don't prove anything or even mean anything for that matter.
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