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pooky177 wrote What the hell do Watergate and aliens have in common? Also, why would they keep a book (21st century) of everything they don't want people to know about? That's like if O.J. Simpson had kept a bloody knife in his sock drawer.

People can't have a conversation with two different subjects that are both highly important to talk about? Also, the government keeps highly classified and top secret documents detailing things about wars and technology they don't want anybody knowing about, like the tech at Area 51 or the helicopter they had to blow up at Bin Laden's hideout. A book with basically the same type of information is the same thing. Not quite sure why that would be hard to believe.

No, they can't. Gettysburg and Aliens? Now am I talking like a conspiracy board member? Also, military classifications such as; Missions, weapons, soldiers, things like that will eventually (10-20 years down the road) get released to the public. The murder of Kennedy (if done by the government) or 9/11 are the things that would never be released to the public. There are no files or anything for a murder or planned disaster, they don't log it into there "Hello Kitty" journal. Two different categories: Military tech and Disasters.

Because we know everything about Gettysburg. A friend of mine was saying that it was an alien that was currently (at the time) located at a base in Iowa, so it was something that was needed to be known as being the president. Also, you could talk about Gettysburg and aliens together if you had some type of story or proof that aliens could have manipulated the outcome of the event. Not everything gets released to the public. A book that is only for the eyes of one man (the president) and not for everyone in government or on computers wouldn't be leaked like that. The only reason why we know about Operation Northwoods is because the government was kind enough to release that information. It's a book of secrets man. It's going to be kept away and be more secret than military Black Operations.

Aliens can't even visit Earth, going the speed of light is impossible. Also, Humans are basically the first wave of intelligent life. That's for another argument though. Why would the president be able to see all of it? Because he is the "leader"? There are 3 branches of government. One branch can't do something unless the other two allow it. So, why not show it to the other two branches? Your still not getting my point...why would they keep a book that chronicles terrible events that would literally cause mass hysteria and mas riots? Why would they have that in a book, written down complete with pictures and all? That's the kind of stuff you burn and hope that the only people that know about it die off in a generation or two. Military operations are completely different.

Aliens can and have visited Earth. One doesn't need the speed of light if you can manipulate wormholes. The president is the mouthpiece of the U.S. If you can get him to see your side in the JFK and 9/11 events, you can convince him to manipulate him further. If you choose to turn it down or give an impression that you might, you will end up like JFK. The reason no one else would see it because not one other person has as much power as the president. True, he can't do everything, but he is the most powerful man (that we know of) in the government system. Trusting one man is a lot easier than trusting a whole branch. He can also convince those in other branches to see his side on certain situations. They would only burn it if they were stupid. You don't lose your history no matter how horrible it was. We may as well burn the records for slaves or the killing of Native Americans because it was horrible, right? If you don't know your past, you don't know where your heading. Operation Northwoods would have caused mass hysteria as well, but they kept it perfectly secret for around 40 years. Over time, people just won't care and think that our government is different from that time. It won't cause mass hysteria if they can keep certain information hidden for about 40 or more years. It's a book, so it's never going to get leaked by hackers. JFK and 9/11 were military operations, so I don't see how they were any different than a Black Operation. Operation Northwoods was going to be identicle to 9/11, but it was stopped by one man, JFK. The man that ended up being murdered by his own people. Our military was calling him soft because he refused to kill American citizens to get into Cuba. Please tell me where the difference is. Bush just happened to ok this operation and it actually happened.

Actually worm holes are pretty impossible as well. It's easy to say how something COULD be done rather than actually knowing HOW it could be done, and wormholes cannot be done. Operation Northwoods did have a plan similar to 9/11, but the plan called for a plane to be hijacked and then a dummy plane remote controlled with no one on board to be crashed. "One of the most fascinating aspects of Operation Northwoods involved the proposed hijacking of an American passenger plane. The JCS proposed that a real plane containing American passengers would be hijacked by friendly forces disguised as Cuban agents. The plane would drop down off the radar screen and be replaced by a pilotless aircraft, which would crash, purportedly killing all the passengers. Under the plan, the real passenger plane would be secretly flown back to the United States." So no, I doubt that would have caused as many problems as the US finding out nearly 3,000 people died on 9/11. 3,000 is a lot worse than 0. The slaves and whatnot can't be covered up, all it can be used for is learning not to repeat the past (it wasn't done by the government). That's a lot different than 9/11 or JFK, Roswell, or Area 51. Also, there is a big difference between covering up a hit on a drug cartel with navy seals and blowing up two building in the middle of NYC for no good reason. 9/11 was not a military op, and neither was JFK. Also, if you convince one branch (Executive) then that doesn't effect the other 2 because there not being "scared" to make laws. So you still have a 2v1 argument even if the President is scared into a law. So, what benefit does it bring to the table to keep around a bloody knife?

And you know wormholes are impossible how exactly? Just because our current public knowledge technology can't do it doesn't mean the future won't hold something different.

3,000 lives lost in empty planes could be easily achieved. Where would the passengers in Operation Northwoods go? They would be dealt with and declared dead. One of those planes supposedly crashed into the ground, but the plane was completely obliterated. That's not possible. It would have to have been shot down to get that type destruction. How did IDs and passports survive the explosion when nothing else did? That's the phony evidence. How did the buildings fall perfectly like they were demoed? How did WTC 7 fall at all? Why did firefighters say there were bombs in the building? Because there were, and they were demoed. Why did several witnesses and people that were speaking up die within a month of the incident? Because most, if not all, of them were silenced from speaking further.

JFK has a lot of loopholes as well. He was shot in the front of the head. The media and doctors first published that he was shot in the front of the head to get that type of reaction (his head flew back.) Then they decided to change their story (which the story of Roswell happened the same way), why? Because the government ordered it. Everyone was saying shots were coming from the grassy knoll. People were on camera saying these things, but no police report has that information. All of the reports say they came from the depository or that the people didn't have helpful information, why? Because the government ordered it. How did Oswald shoot that many shots within that small amount of time with that gun, shots that Navy SEALS can't even pull off? Because it was a team of shooters. I believe they said 11-13 holes were found in people and the surrounding environment, also information that wasn't included. Why did the road before the kill zone have sidewalks 5 people deep full of people, but very few (compared) on the kill zone road? Because they needed a smaller audience and didn't need people in the way. Why were none of the windows closed and locked down? Why did JFK's Secret Service get away from the car right before the shooting? They are suppose to stick to the president's car no matter what, but they were called off. Why did the driver go slow until he saw the headshot to Kennedy when he is suppose to drive fast at the first sounds of gunfire? Because he needed Kennedy to be dead before he got out of there. Also, how was Oswald captured in a photo of him standing on the land outside of the depository while the car was going by? Because he was just the fall guy. He knew what was going down, but he couldn't speak or he would be killed. The government knew he may talk, so they killed him using someone who had zero motives (that the public knows) to do so, Jack Ruby.

Why keep the book? It could scare the biggest mouthpiece and puppet of the U.S., which people may follow. The other branches don't need scaring, just some convincing. What's better than to have undercover people in other countries doing something terrible to get their approval (false flag attacks.) They can also use this book to learn what they have accomplished in the past and to use some of the techniques and plans for some future usage (and maybe even eventually make a flaw proof plan.)

Idk why you just explained to me every conspiracy theory. I never said they were false, I just said keeping a book of it is redonkulous. So you think when the president is introduced they slap a book on his desk and say "Read it." and he gets scared? Also, who is doing this to the President? The FBI? Who is the real leader of America if the president isn't?

BTW, Demo teams don't have to be trained spec ops. Also, the people in the plane would probably be dealt with in some way to be kept quiet, much like you think the president is forced. I don't think there is a book detailing every horrific, terrible, anything but decent plot the government has done. Why? Because like I said earlier, that's like O.J. Simpson keeping a bloody knife in his sock drawer. And as seeing you already proven you don't know what your talking about (OP Northwoods), and I don't feel like googling the other stuff you sad, I'm going to end this convo knowing we both have opinions...and those opinions will stay opinions.

I posted the facts on those situations to show you they were, for fact, inside jobs. They were military ops. I didn't say you needed spec ops for demos, I'm just saying the government got people to do it. When the government gets people to do it, it becomes an inside job/military op. I also said the book probably isn't shown to the president anymore because it can be leaked easier since the TV is a big thing now. I'm sure it's still around though, locked away just as is the "gold" of Fort Knox (a theory suggests it's empty, but that's a different story.) There is a government within the government that is kept secret. I don't know who could overlook the president, but I'm sure that figure is there. I guess Rothschild is a great name to put out there since they basically own the Federal Reserve. In 2000, only seven countries didn't have a Central Bank owned by Rothschild. The countries were: Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Cuba, North Korea, Iran. Those countries sound familiar? Fast forward to 2011 and now only three don't have one. Countries are: Cuba, North Korea, Iran. Again, do those countries sound familiar? Yea, Cuba is kind of the one that hasn't been talked about recently, but the future could be different. How did it seem that I didn't know what I was talking about? I read a great bit of information on Operation Northwoods. I knew exactly what I was talking about. Now, you being able to add up and understand what I am talking about is another thing entirely. Also, it's not like O.J. keeping a bloody knife in his drawer. O.J. is one man without any form of protection. This is more like Fort Knox without gold (you may find it, but you're not living to tell about it.)

Yin wrote I do think this very book exists, just not located where the movie depicted. It would be highly guarded, or in a secure location no one would ever look. I don't think the president has access to this book anymore (if they did to begin with.) A president is only allowed 8 years in the White House at a time. I just don't see the other guys wanting to trust a temporary guy with the very sensitive information. Just my opinion on it.

Isnt that what they would want you to think, ""putting it in a place highly guarded", if it does exist, i think it would be like the film, somewhere very public.

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Yin wrote I do think this very book exists, just not located where the movie depicted. It would be highly guarded, or in a secure location no one would ever look. I don't think the president has access to this book anymore (if they did to begin with.) A president is only allowed 8 years in the White House at a time. I just don't see the other guys wanting to trust a temporary guy with the very sensitive information. Just my opinion on it.

Isnt that what they would want you to think, ""putting it in a place highly guarded", if it does exist, i think it would be like the film, somewhere very public.

As much as I respect and understand "the best hiding spot is in plain sight", I personally feel this situation is different unless it's in a low populated area. No one may know to look there, but with so many people, accidents of finding it become higher. If it exists, it may just be in a secret tunnel or base of some sort. I would say either guarder like Area 51 or Fort Knox, or not guarded at all but as hidden as bases in the mountains. Who knows, maybe it's under the Pentagon.

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pooky177 wrote What the hell do Watergate and aliens have in common? Also, why would they keep a book (21st century) of everything they don't want people to know about? That's like if O.J. Simpson had kept a bloody knife in his sock drawer.

People can't have a conversation with two different subjects that are both highly important to talk about? Also, the government keeps highly classified and top secret documents detailing things about wars and technology they don't want anybody knowing about, like the tech at Area 51 or the helicopter they had to blow up at Bin Laden's hideout. A book with basically the same type of information is the same thing. Not quite sure why that would be hard to believe.

No, they can't. Gettysburg and Aliens? Now am I talking like a conspiracy board member? Also, military classifications such as; Missions, weapons, soldiers, things like that will eventually (10-20 years down the road) get released to the public. The murder of Kennedy (if done by the government) or 9/11 are the things that would never be released to the public. There are no files or anything for a murder or planned disaster, they don't log it into there "Hello Kitty" journal. Two different categories: Military tech and Disasters.

Because we know everything about Gettysburg. A friend of mine was saying that it was an alien that was currently (at the time) located at a base in Iowa, so it was something that was needed to be known as being the president. Also, you could talk about Gettysburg and aliens together if you had some type of story or proof that aliens could have manipulated the outcome of the event. Not everything gets released to the public. A book that is only for the eyes of one man (the president) and not for everyone in government or on computers wouldn't be leaked like that. The only reason why we know about Operation Northwoods is because the government was kind enough to release that information. It's a book of secrets man. It's going to be kept away and be more secret than military Black Operations.

Aliens can't even visit Earth, going the speed of light is impossible. Also, Humans are basically the first wave of intelligent life. That's for another argument though. Why would the president be able to see all of it? Because he is the "leader"? There are 3 branches of government. One branch can't do something unless the other two allow it. So, why not show it to the other two branches? Your still not getting my point...why would they keep a book that chronicles terrible events that would literally cause mass hysteria and mas riots? Why would they have that in a book, written down complete with pictures and all? That's the kind of stuff you burn and hope that the only people that know about it die off in a generation or two. Military operations are completely different.

Aliens can and have visited Earth. One doesn't need the speed of light if you can manipulate wormholes. The president is the mouthpiece of the U.S. If you can get him to see your side in the JFK and 9/11 events, you can convince him to manipulate him further. If you choose to turn it down or give an impression that you might, you will end up like JFK. The reason no one else would see it because not one other person has as much power as the president. True, he can't do everything, but he is the most powerful man (that we know of) in the government system. Trusting one man is a lot easier than trusting a whole branch. He can also convince those in other branches to see his side on certain situations. They would only burn it if they were stupid. You don't lose your history no matter how horrible it was. We may as well burn the records for slaves or the killing of Native Americans because it was horrible, right? If you don't know your past, you don't know where your heading. Operation Northwoods would have caused mass hysteria as well, but they kept it perfectly secret for around 40 years. Over time, people just won't care and think that our government is different from that time. It won't cause mass hysteria if they can keep certain information hidden for about 40 or more years. It's a book, so it's never going to get leaked by hackers. JFK and 9/11 were military operations, so I don't see how they were any different than a Black Operation. Operation Northwoods was going to be identicle to 9/11, but it was stopped by one man, JFK. The man that ended up being murdered by his own people. Our military was calling him soft because he refused to kill American citizens to get into Cuba. Please tell me where the difference is. Bush just happened to ok this operation and it actually happened.

Actually worm holes are pretty impossible as well. It's easy to say how something COULD be done rather than actually knowing HOW it could be done, and wormholes cannot be done. Operation Northwoods did have a plan similar to 9/11, but the plan called for a plane to be hijacked and then a dummy plane remote controlled with no one on board to be crashed. "One of the most fascinating aspects of Operation Northwoods involved the proposed hijacking of an American passenger plane. The JCS proposed that a real plane containing American passengers would be hijacked by friendly forces disguised as Cuban agents. The plane would drop down off the radar screen and be replaced by a pilotless aircraft, which would crash, purportedly killing all the passengers. Under the plan, the real passenger plane would be secretly flown back to the United States." So no, I doubt that would have caused as many problems as the US finding out nearly 3,000 people died on 9/11. 3,000 is a lot worse than 0. The slaves and whatnot can't be covered up, all it can be used for is learning not to repeat the past (it wasn't done by the government). That's a lot different than 9/11 or JFK, Roswell, or Area 51. Also, there is a big difference between covering up a hit on a drug cartel with navy seals and blowing up two building in the middle of NYC for no good reason. 9/11 was not a military op, and neither was JFK. Also, if you convince one branch (Executive) then that doesn't effect the other 2 because there not being "scared" to make laws. So you still have a 2v1 argument even if the President is scared into a law. So, what benefit does it bring to the table to keep around a bloody knife?

Hope you don't mind if I jump into this conversation and clear some things up.

I would just like to say traveling through wormholes is not science fiction and definitely possible. Although it is not needed for interstellar travel.

Infact physicists have already created a classification system for alien societies. There are 3 types of civilizations, I planetary, II Solar, III Galactic.

Type I this civilization harnesses the energy output of an entire planet.

Type II this civilization harnesses the energy output of a star, and generates about 10 billion times the energy output of a Type I civilization.

Type III this civilization harnesses the energy output of a galaxy, or about 10 billion time the energy output of a Type II civilization. (or in other word, harness the power of a black hole, a wormhole.)

And if you really want to know HOW this can be done,


And if your curious we are a type 0 we get our enegery from dead plants.

So it is possible their are type 2 or 3 aliens that have visited earth before, but I doubt that's ever happened.

Oh yea and the as for the book of secrets, I just dont think one exists.

if the book did exist it would be in a different country i mean what better way to hide a book from americans than to keep it in foreighn lands right?

I believe that this is real, I mean, the President as many many many secrets.