of course people still have free will to choose there own way in life like to have kids

CL4PTRAP wrote of course people still have free will to choose there own way in life like to have kids

Think of this, was it there choice, or was it predestined? Me answering you was it meant to be(pre-destined) or was it my choice?

If you actually think about it; it hurts your head a little because something in your brain tells you it could be a little bit of both? Your question is why I started this topic

I believe in God. Until science says there is no God I will always believe. My family is religious. But we don't go to church every Sunday. But I like the idea of seeing all my family again and having eternal peace when I die. It makes dying not as scary.

Agreed, that point of view goes strong with my opinion, I rather believe in something and feel safe mentally, then fight it and believe in nothing

Yes, We have "Free will" Because this government some people think we do not have "Free will" Also

I don't think god exist because you can't see him, hear him, touch him, And besides I'm atheist

Can't argue with you I've had many moments that I just wanted to go into being an atheist, so full supporter on that

Zax wrote Can't argue with you I've had many moments that I just wanted to go into being an atheist, so full supporter on that

I'd rather live my life believing in an afterlife and find out it's not there. Than live my life not believing in one and find out it is real.

This is odd.
My opinion (as an Agnostic) is that if God were all knowing, then he would know the future.
Knowing our future would cause everything to be set in stone, which would void the possibility of us having freedom of choices. Meaning everything was already pre-planned and we think that we are actually controlling our lives.

It's sort of like an ant farm. They might feel like they create tunnels on their own free will and go wherever, but we have them confined to an area we want.

This would contradict everything.

I just think religion was created so insecure individuals could feel something was there after they died. I really don't care what happens when I die.

Besides, every religion states that they are the "true" religion and everyone else is wrong. Well not everyone can be right. It seems like having someone born into a certain religion, causes a higher chance into said individual being converted into that belief. Causing everything to be opinionated and not necessarily factual.

Also, I would like to point out that usually the oldest data may be the most sound since limited modification has been performed.

Judaism predates Christianity.
Polytheism predates monotheism (Judaism, Christianity, etc.).
Polytheism was generally created to explain the unexplainable(to them), such as weather and other natural events.
So that kind of makes everything unsound considering everything was more or less based off of polytheism.

Those are my thoughts anyway.

It's things like the research I do, and listening to different opinions make me believe religion is as you explained a way to feel safe after death, but no one really even can explains what happens

Mimz wrote This is odd.
My opinion (as an Agnostic) is that if God were all knowing, then he would know the future.
Knowing our future would cause everything to be set in stone, which would void the possibility of us having freedom of choices. Meaning everything was already pre-planned and we think that we are actually controlling our lives.

It's sort of like an ant farm. They might feel like they create tunnels on their own free will and go wherever, but we have them confined to an area we want.

This would contradict everything.

I just think religion was created so insecure individuals could feel something was there after they died. I really don't care what happens when I die.

Besides, every religion states that they are the "true" religion and everyone else is wrong. Well not everyone can be right. It seems like having someone born into a certain religion, causes a higher chance into said individual being converted into that belief. Causing everything to be opinionated and not necessarily factual.

Also, I would like to point out that usually the oldest data may be the most sound since limited modification has been performed.

Judaism predates Christianity.
Polytheism predates monotheism (Judaism, Christianity, etc.).
Polytheism was generally created to explain the unexplainable(to them), such as weather and other natural events.
So that kind of makes everything unsound considering everything was more or less based off of polytheism.

Those are my thoughts anyway.

When it comes to a God and pre-determinism, I view free will like this;

Your life is mapped out from individual points.

So, sometime in your life, you will get a serious illness. You now have the choice to either overcome that illness, or die. When you overcome the illness, the next step in your life might be to win the lottery, you can decide what you spend the money on.

In short, the big things are mapped out which affect big decisions, but little things such as what flavor crisps to buy are up to you.

You have free will, but the situations in which you use your free will are not your choice.