Yin wrote

-EQ wrote "taking these guns away won't do anything"
Are you a fcuking idiot bro? Look at the statistics of other countries' before speaking **** like FOX news... You're probably some 12 year old gun fanatic. Why would you need to protect yourself from your own government. Has it ever happened in the last 20 years where we needed to use guns to protect us from the gov. The second amendment is outdated and also I DO live in the US

Why would our government oppress us before getting rid of the guns? That would be the worst move ever. This could potentially be a set up to that position. It's one of those "better safe than sorry" situations. I personally don't like the possibility of becoming a police state and/or being oppressed by the government. The guns keep that from happening. You can't predict the future and what type of leaders we will have in the next 100 years, so the guns are a safety net because of that fact.

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That includes libraries, schools, etc. Not just the military and CIA related areas.
311,591,917 Americans
You're telling me that they would attempt to oppress that many people? By the time their done, the population would be so small that we wouldn't be a significant force in the world anymore causing us to be more vulnerable for war.

Guns are not a safety net. The government has been set up so no one person has total control of the nation, you would have to have a corrupt Senate, White House, Judicial, etc. for it to be fine.
That's over 100 people to be compliant.

Not likely to happen.

It doesn't matter to me anyway i have 4 AR's and thousands of rounds of ammo so it's not really a problem for me i just think it's useless. Also if any one tries to take my gun's are dead law enforcement or not,.

Johnny-Cash wrote

Mimz wrote

Johnny-Cash wrote

Mimz wrote

Johnny-Cash wrote So your saying the uk is not civilized? because they have some of the highest robbery,murder,beatings etc.....Rates. Anyways your argument is invalid because no matter what gun' will NEVER be banned in the u.s.

That doesn't make it invalid, just the United States is possibly ignorant.
You can't ignore the fact that of all of the civilized countries and crime rates, United States is one of the highest. Same with homicide involving guns and weapons.

I never said the UK wasn't. But the fact that I've only heard or seen that reporter mention UK being incredibly higher then US is weird.
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^American murder rate
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^British article talking about it being at an all time low. And stating crime statistics.

Either way, ignoring that fact that banning the useless weapons would decrease the homicide rate is ridiculous.
If only handguns and hunting rifles were allowed, then there would be a decrease over time.

Also, why would you need an AR?
You don't need one to kill deer LOL

Actually AR's are extremely useful against feral hog's and are very fun to target shoot (many exert marksmen use AR's so dont say their useless. Now i understand putting more paper work and regulations into buying one but banning them doesn't make sense.

I guarantee those feral hogs can be killed without an automatic.
They may be fun to shoot, but I'm sure bombs are fun to set on fire.
Should we make them legal for purchase?
Just because expert marksman use them, doesn't make them have a logical usage.
Why does a civilian need access to something just because expert marksman and the army have access.
For events, give the shooters a weapon to use on closed grounds. Problem solved, no need to purchase.

1 more thing before i go to bed. Their are hunting rifles (non-ar15 rifles) that hold 10+ rounds and are more powerfull and take less that 5 seconds to reload . So you cant really blame it on clip size or because it's (semiautomatic) because their are hunting rifle's that are semiautomatic.

So you're telling me that semi-auto hunting rifles are a hell of a lot better then automatics in terms of damage?
Honestly, if you had 30 people in front of you, you could kill more people with an AR you wouldn't even be required to aim (would be stupid to do).

I fail to see the point, your arguing on useless data on how AR's aren't as bad as hunting rifles.

There have been cases where people shot someone with a hunting shotgun, and the person lived.
Why? Because it was designed to hunt and it just tore the flesh apart, gruesome but true.

There isn't a huge reason to continue to allow AR's and other unneeded weapons to be sold to civilians.

Johnny-Cash wrote It doesn't matter to me anyway i have 4 AR's and thousands of rounds of ammo so it's not really a problem for me i just think it's useless. Also if any one tries to take my gun's are dead law enforcement or not,.

LOL
You're 15, wait until you get older. With that attitude you'll be in jail in no time champ.
Shoot an officer and just watch how fast you have the SWAT at your house.
Someone down the street told their neighbor they would shoot them if they didn't take their dog inside, the SWAT had the house surrounded within 15 minutes.

Mimz wrote

Johnny-Cash wrote

Mimz wrote

Johnny-Cash wrote

Mimz wrote

Johnny-Cash wrote So your saying the uk is not civilized? because they have some of the highest robbery,murder,beatings etc.....Rates. Anyways your argument is invalid because no matter what gun' will NEVER be banned in the u.s.

That doesn't make it invalid, just the United States is possibly ignorant.
You can't ignore the fact that of all of the civilized countries and crime rates, United States is one of the highest. Same with homicide involving guns and weapons.

I never said the UK wasn't. But the fact that I've only heard or seen that reporter mention UK being incredibly higher then US is weird.
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^American murder rate
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^British article talking about it being at an all time low. And stating crime statistics.

Either way, ignoring that fact that banning the useless weapons would decrease the homicide rate is ridiculous.
If only handguns and hunting rifles were allowed, then there would be a decrease over time.

Also, why would you need an AR?
You don't need one to kill deer LOL

Actually AR's are extremely useful against feral hog's and are very fun to target shoot (many exert marksmen use AR's so dont say their useless. Now i understand putting more paper work and regulations into buying one but banning them doesn't make sense.

I guarantee those feral hogs can be killed without an automatic.
They may be fun to shoot, but I'm sure bombs are fun to set on fire.
Should we make them legal for purchase?
Just because expert marksman use them, doesn't make them have a logical usage.
Why does a civilian need access to something just because expert marksman and the army have access.
For events, give the shooters a weapon to use on closed grounds. Problem solved, no need to purchase.

1 more thing before i go to bed. Their are hunting rifles (non-ar15 rifles) that hold 10+ rounds and are more powerfull and take less that 5 seconds to reload . So you cant really blame it on clip size or because it's (semiautomatic) because their are hunting rifle's that are semiautomatic.

So you're telling me that semi-auto hunting rifles are a hell of a lot better then automatics in terms of damage?
Honestly, if you had 30 people in front of you, you could kill more people with an AR you wouldn't even be required to aim (would be stupid to do).

I fail to see the point, your arguing on useless data on how AR's aren't as bad as hunting rifles.

There have been cases where people shot someone with a hunting shotgun, and the person lived.
Why? Because it was designed to hunt and it just tore the flesh apart, gruesome but true.

There isn't a huge reason to continue to allow AR's and other unneeded weapons to be sold to civilians.

To be honest i seriously doubt that they will ban them but i guess we will have to wait and see.

Mimz wrote

Johnny-Cash wrote It doesn't matter to me anyway i have 4 AR's and thousands of rounds of ammo so it's not really a problem for me i just think it's useless. Also if any one tries to take my gun's are dead law enforcement or not,.

LOL
You're 15, wait until you get older. With that attitude you'll be in jail in no time champ.
Shoot an officer and just watch how fast you have the SWAT at your house.
Someone down the street told their neighbor they would shoot them if they didn't take their dog inside, the SWAT had the house surrounded within 15 minutes.

Im talking about if they did a nation wide ban on gun's like with the uk but that is seriously unlikely because over half of american's own gun's. Im not going to kill a police officer for no reason.

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Johnny-Cash wrote -snip-

They won't because there are people like you who would take an increased homicide rate just to shoot at a target with a firearm.
But either way, America's **** up if they don't, simple.

We have a gun ban in the UK if someone wants a gun they will get one, Knowing the right people & having money can get you anything


Taking a gun law to the US would be stupid, You should have the right to protect you're self if you know someone has a gun and ready to use it you wouldn't attempt to break into there house would you? Where if someone breaks into you're house in the UK you're left pretty much to fend with you're own two fists completely pathetic, Being a gun owner myself i should have the right to shoot someone if there in my house trying to kill,injure me or a member of family, Gun crimes will never end if people are willing to break the law to go on a killing spree there not going to think twice about doing it again to acquire a firearm, You will get Politicians agreeing on the subject but if someone attempts to Injure them its a different story,

Example: David Cameron the most hated man in Britain says we should stop driving are cars so much to help "Pollution" yet he goes to work with 4 cars full of armed guards behind him, Its stupid they tell us to do something but its perfectly fine for them to do it :facepalm:

Been awake for 2 days sorry for the bad grammar/rambling

-EQ wrote

Yin wrote

-EQ wrote "taking these guns away won't do anything"
Are you a fcuking idiot bro? Look at the statistics of other countries' before speaking **** like FOX news... You're probably some 12 year old gun fanatic. Why would you need to protect yourself from your own government. Has it ever happened in the last 20 years where we needed to use guns to protect us from the gov. The second amendment is outdated and also I DO live in the US

Why would our government oppress us before getting rid of the guns? That would be the worst move ever. This could potentially be a set up to that position. It's one of those "better safe than sorry" situations. I personally don't like the possibility of becoming a police state and/or being oppressed by the government. The guns keep that from happening. You can't predict the future and what type of leaders we will have in the next 100 years, so the guns are a safety net because of that fact.

It's not getting rid of guns really but we really need to trust the government. It's not like guns are the only thing that keep you safe, im sure in 100 years they will have far better technology than that

Then the trust should be mutual. They should respect our founding father given right to have guns. Since guns will be outdated by government tech, they are the best things we have just in case something does happen. The government should be feared by the people. That's what keeps people in power from going off track. Poeople are power hungry and power happy. It's just how we are. Take the guns away, or the stronger guns, and you are left with people that are afraid of government. That's when it easily becomes a tyrannical government. The government has lied a lot in the passed 100 years, so I don't see where they deserve any form of trust. I mean, we got into the Vietnam War because of their lies. No trust should be given until they start to earn it. History will repeat itself if we forgive them so easily.

Johnny-Cash wrote

Mimz wrote

Johnny-Cash wrote It doesn't matter to me anyway i have 4 AR's and thousands of rounds of ammo so it's not really a problem for me i just think it's useless. Also if any one tries to take my gun's are dead law enforcement or not,.

LOL
You're 15, wait until you get older. With that attitude you'll be in jail in no time champ.
Shoot an officer and just watch how fast you have the SWAT at your house.
Someone down the street told their neighbor they would shoot them if they didn't take their dog inside, the SWAT had the house surrounded within 15 minutes.

Im talking about if they did a nation wide ban on gun's like with the uk but that is seriously unlikely because over half of american's own gun's. Im not going to kill a police officer for no reason.

You just said you would.

Also if any one tries to take my gun's are dead law enforcement or not,.

It doesn't matter. It's still wrong, you keep saying useless facts just to attempt to say why firearms should be legal. Yet, you seem to be repeating the same thing over and over.
At least I'm attempting to respond with factual data.