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Clover- wrote Can we stop about all the Gun-Ban, Gun Crime flaming going back in forth? Either way, it is not the Governments choice. They can make a Bill for it, but they will need citizens to vote on it, I believe. I may be wrong, and if I am. Please correct me. But Gun-Ban will only cause more Gun Crime.

OT: I am sorry to hear about the kid who got shot. It is a shame that sick, twisted adults need to kill innocent kids.


Unfortunately, no. Congress does what it wants. They passed the Patriot Act and NDAA. Gave backdoor bailouts to banks and giant corporations. Now some senator(s) want to arm children in schools.

Okay. Thank you for correcting me while being mature.

Now, if Senator(s) gave children in schools armed weapons. That is stupid in my opinion. What I believe that may stop a majority of these School Shootings, is to allow the School Faculty to carry around a Glock, or a Colt 45 Peacemaker. Or something similar to those. So if there is a threat, the Staff will have a way to defend the kids, and theirselves.


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ExoticWolfs wrote
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ExoticWolfs wrote Ok, Pyre, say you lived here your whole life and you were a citizen of the US. You would NOT be saying ban the gun's. Because you just don't get it and you think it will be the solution to everything.


No, believe it or not, there are some people that don't want to own a firearm, ever. Even if I lived in America, I wouldn't want to be associated with guns.


But the problem is, you haven't lived here your whole life! You don't see it the same way as we do. If you did live here, you probably would have some sort of gun.


That may be. But as a neutral party, I'm in favor of a gun-ban. It's worked for other countries, why not the US.

I am sorry for butting in on this conversation. But I do see your point in this. I am an American born citizen. And, at first I never wanted a gun. But after moving down to the state of Kentucky, I realized that having a gun means you can do so much. You can hunt for food, shoot targets for fun, etc. But a gun-ban will do the US no good. If they did ban it, in my opinion, there will be a lot more riots in the US because over 90% of the American population has a gun in there house for safety.

And, in no way am I trying to say you are wrong, and I am right. But I do respect what you said, and it makes a valid point.


Thanks. Atleast someone isn't ignorant. It works both ways aswell, I can see positives of having a gun, don't get me wrong, but I think a human life is more important than hunting for buck.


Looking back at almost everything you posted, what you are trying to say is banning guns will stop killing. Which there are other ways you can kill, you know that right?


No. I'm trying to say that banning guns will stop gun crime.


GUN CRIME?! You don't have to have a gun to kill somebody! If they want to do it bad enough, they will, no matter what it takes.


Referring back to more statistics. Gun crime makes up 40% of the homicides in the US. If guns were banned, that's get vastly reduced. Thus reducing almost 1/3 of the killings in the US.


Referring back to my statement. If they wan't to do it bad enough, they will! With a gun or not, it will happen.


Yes, but without the gun the chances are cut by a third.



So you say if they don't have a gun, they are just going to give up. Not even try to kill them another way, stop just looking at the guns point of view, there are also knifes....


I'm looking at a guns point of view because that's what subject we're on. A kid being shot in the head, a school being shot up and a movie theater. Tell me, how many mass murders happen with weapons that aren't guns compared to guns?


But taking the guns out are going to increase mass murders with other weapons!

How do you know that? Guns are more lethal than knives. It's easier to defend against a knife than a gun.
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-R3cKL3SSxPro- wrote Dear Pyre I think you don't understand that the problem not just the gun that all you care about the gun.
How is geting rid of the guns going to make me feel safe , someome thats mental ill could easily build a gun and come into my house and shoot me. **** what do I do call the police o wait they don't have a gun, fight back no o yeah talk him out of it logical

Adam Lanza Killed his mom how sick do you have to be.

Your family one day-honey there someone Breaking in... Ill talk him out of this bang bang your kids are died, his come for you wait let me talk to him man put the gun down (no your dead)
Or honey someone Brealing ok I'll grab the shot gun you get the 45 get to the kids room. Bang mans Dead family's alive. Your kids live to see Another day and dady will do anything to protect them

I don't take murder Lightly, my dad was a police officer and one of good friends was guned down in a police car on break haveing a conversation on the phone with his wife. the gun was found later on and it was legal.



Okay, you're an embarrassment to anyone in here trying to have a serious debate. You're talking about murder as if it was nothing. Yes, I'd have to risk myself by disarming someone, or I could use simple psychology to try and calm the attacker down. Not shoot him.

You might have a good point, but I can't really understand it because of the unnecessary capitalizations and misspelled words.


What capitalization or misspelled words?
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Pyre wrote
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ExoticWolfs wrote Ok, Pyre, say you lived here your whole life and you were a citizen of the US. You would NOT be saying ban the gun's. Because you just don't get it and you think it will be the solution to everything.


No, believe it or not, there are some people that don't want to own a firearm, ever. Even if I lived in America, I wouldn't want to be associated with guns.


But the problem is, you haven't lived here your whole life! You don't see it the same way as we do. If you did live here, you probably would have some sort of gun.


That may be. But as a neutral party, I'm in favor of a gun-ban. It's worked for other countries, why not the US.

I am sorry for butting in on this conversation. But I do see your point in this. I am an American born citizen. And, at first I never wanted a gun. But after moving down to the state of Kentucky, I realized that having a gun means you can do so much. You can hunt for food, shoot targets for fun, etc. But a gun-ban will do the US no good. If they did ban it, in my opinion, there will be a lot more riots in the US because over 90% of the American population has a gun in there house for safety.

And, in no way am I trying to say you are wrong, and I am right. But I do respect what you said, and it makes a valid point.


Thanks. Atleast someone isn't ignorant. It works both ways aswell, I can see positives of having a gun, don't get me wrong, but I think a human life is more important than hunting for buck.


Looking back at almost everything you posted, what you are trying to say is banning guns will stop killing. Which there are other ways you can kill, you know that right?


No. I'm trying to say that banning guns will stop gun crime.


GUN CRIME?! You don't have to have a gun to kill somebody! If they want to do it bad enough, they will, no matter what it takes.


Referring back to more statistics. Gun crime makes up 40% of the homicides in the US. If guns were banned, that's get vastly reduced. Thus reducing almost 1/3 of the killings in the US.


Referring back to my statement. If they wan't to do it bad enough, they will! With a gun or not, it will happen.


Yes, but without the gun the chances are cut by a third.



So you say if they don't have a gun, they are just going to give up. Not even try to kill them another way, stop just looking at the guns point of view, there are also knifes....


I'm looking at a guns point of view because that's what subject we're on. A kid being shot in the head, a school being shot up and a movie theater. Tell me, how many mass murders happen with weapons that aren't guns compared to guns?


But taking the guns out are going to increase mass murders with other weapons!


How do you know that? Guns are more lethal than knives. It's easier to defend against a knife than a gun.

Yea, but that is a knife, there are others than knifes also. Anyways it might be easier, but it still won't stop it.
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So, banning a high capacity high power rifle, will mean that even more children will die in schools? Unless the mentally ill person is a crack shot and has a fast draw, they will not be able to do the damage with a 9mm that they are able to do with an AR15. A lower caliber round, with a 13 round magazine will be less effective than these AR15 30 Round magazine "Merica Machines"
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ExoticWolfs wrote
Pyre wrote
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Pyre wrote
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Clover- wrote
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ExoticWolfs wrote Ok, Pyre, say you lived here your whole life and you were a citizen of the US. You would NOT be saying ban the gun's. Because you just don't get it and you think it will be the solution to everything.


No, believe it or not, there are some people that don't want to own a firearm, ever. Even if I lived in America, I wouldn't want to be associated with guns.


But the problem is, you haven't lived here your whole life! You don't see it the same way as we do. If you did live here, you probably would have some sort of gun.


That may be. But as a neutral party, I'm in favor of a gun-ban. It's worked for other countries, why not the US.

I am sorry for butting in on this conversation. But I do see your point in this. I am an American born citizen. And, at first I never wanted a gun. But after moving down to the state of Kentucky, I realized that having a gun means you can do so much. You can hunt for food, shoot targets for fun, etc. But a gun-ban will do the US no good. If they did ban it, in my opinion, there will be a lot more riots in the US because over 90% of the American population has a gun in there house for safety.

And, in no way am I trying to say you are wrong, and I am right. But I do respect what you said, and it makes a valid point.


Thanks. Atleast someone isn't ignorant. It works both ways aswell, I can see positives of having a gun, don't get me wrong, but I think a human life is more important than hunting for buck.


Looking back at almost everything you posted, what you are trying to say is banning guns will stop killing. Which there are other ways you can kill, you know that right?


No. I'm trying to say that banning guns will stop gun crime.


GUN CRIME?! You don't have to have a gun to kill somebody! If they want to do it bad enough, they will, no matter what it takes.


Referring back to more statistics. Gun crime makes up 40% of the homicides in the US. If guns were banned, that's get vastly reduced. Thus reducing almost 1/3 of the killings in the US.


Referring back to my statement. If they wan't to do it bad enough, they will! With a gun or not, it will happen.


Yes, but without the gun the chances are cut by a third.



So you say if they don't have a gun, they are just going to give up. Not even try to kill them another way, stop just looking at the guns point of view, there are also knifes....


I'm looking at a guns point of view because that's what subject we're on. A kid being shot in the head, a school being shot up and a movie theater. Tell me, how many mass murders happen with weapons that aren't guns compared to guns?


But taking the guns out are going to increase mass murders with other weapons!


How do you know that? Guns are more lethal than knives. It's easier to defend against a knife than a gun.


Yea, but that is a knife, there are others than knifes also. Anyways it might be easier, but it still won't stop it.

No, nothing will stop murders unless everyone on the planet is contained separately.
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Pyre wrote
-R3cKL3SSxPro- wrote Dear Pyre I think you don't understand that the problem not just the gun that all you care about the gun.
How is geting rid of the guns going to make me feel safe , someome thats mental ill could easily build a gun and come into my house and shoot me. **** what do I do call the police o wait they don't have a gun, fight back no o yeah talk him out of it logical

Adam Lanza Killed his mom how sick do you have to be.

Your family one day-honey there someone Breaking in... Ill talk him out of this bang bang your kids are died, his come for you wait let me talk to him man put the gun down (no your dead)
Or honey someone Brealing ok I'll grab the shot gun you get the 45 get to the kids room. Bang mans Dead family's alive. Your kids live to see Another day and dady will do anything to protect them

I don't take murder Lightly, my dad was a police officer and one of good friends was guned down in a police car on break haveing a conversation on the phone with his wife. the gun was found later on and it was legal.



Okay, you're an embarrassment to anyone in here trying to have a serious debate. You're talking about murder as if it was nothing. Yes, I'd have to risk myself by disarming someone, or I could use simple psychology to try and calm the attacker down. Not shoot him.


Dear Reckless Pro, where are you from? And do you know proper English?

On-topic:

If a mentally ill person built a gun, I'd be quite impressed.




That is not a Response lol , gotta Critique him to get off topic .

This is just showing your Background in weapons. you know nothing. Call of duty doesn't count

Have you ever fired a Weapon before? I guarantee not
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Pyre wrote
ExoticWolfs wrote
Pyre wrote
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Pyre wrote
ExoticWolfs wrote
Pyre wrote
ExoticWolfs wrote
Pyre wrote
ExoticWolfs wrote
Pyre wrote
ExoticWolfs wrote
Pyre wrote
Clover- wrote
Pyre wrote
ExoticWolfs wrote
Pyre wrote
ExoticWolfs wrote Ok, Pyre, say you lived here your whole life and you were a citizen of the US. You would NOT be saying ban the gun's. Because you just don't get it and you think it will be the solution to everything.


No, believe it or not, there are some people that don't want to own a firearm, ever. Even if I lived in America, I wouldn't want to be associated with guns.


But the problem is, you haven't lived here your whole life! You don't see it the same way as we do. If you did live here, you probably would have some sort of gun.


That may be. But as a neutral party, I'm in favor of a gun-ban. It's worked for other countries, why not the US.

I am sorry for butting in on this conversation. But I do see your point in this. I am an American born citizen. And, at first I never wanted a gun. But after moving down to the state of Kentucky, I realized that having a gun means you can do so much. You can hunt for food, shoot targets for fun, etc. But a gun-ban will do the US no good. If they did ban it, in my opinion, there will be a lot more riots in the US because over 90% of the American population has a gun in there house for safety.

And, in no way am I trying to say you are wrong, and I am right. But I do respect what you said, and it makes a valid point.


Thanks. Atleast someone isn't ignorant. It works both ways aswell, I can see positives of having a gun, don't get me wrong, but I think a human life is more important than hunting for buck.


Looking back at almost everything you posted, what you are trying to say is banning guns will stop killing. Which there are other ways you can kill, you know that right?


No. I'm trying to say that banning guns will stop gun crime.


GUN CRIME?! You don't have to have a gun to kill somebody! If they want to do it bad enough, they will, no matter what it takes.


Referring back to more statistics. Gun crime makes up 40% of the homicides in the US. If guns were banned, that's get vastly reduced. Thus reducing almost 1/3 of the killings in the US.


Referring back to my statement. If they wan't to do it bad enough, they will! With a gun or not, it will happen.


Yes, but without the gun the chances are cut by a third.



So you say if they don't have a gun, they are just going to give up. Not even try to kill them another way, stop just looking at the guns point of view, there are also knifes....


I'm looking at a guns point of view because that's what subject we're on. A kid being shot in the head, a school being shot up and a movie theater. Tell me, how many mass murders happen with weapons that aren't guns compared to guns?


But taking the guns out are going to increase mass murders with other weapons!


How do you know that? Guns are more lethal than knives. It's easier to defend against a knife than a gun.


Yea, but that is a knife, there are others than knifes also. Anyways it might be easier, but it still won't stop it.


No, nothing will stop murders unless everyone on the planet is contained separately.

Ok, there ya go... right there, guns or not, its going to happen!
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Pyre wrote
-R3cKL3SSxPro- wrote Dear Pyre I think you don't understand that the problem not just the gun that all you care about the gun.
How is geting rid of the guns going to make me feel safe , someome thats mental ill could easily build a gun and come into my house and shoot me. **** what do I do call the police o wait they don't have a gun, fight back no o yeah talk him out of it logical

Adam Lanza Killed his mom how sick do you have to be.

Your family one day-honey there someone Breaking in... Ill talk him out of this bang bang your kids are died, his come for you wait let me talk to him man put the gun down (no your dead)
Or honey someone Brealing ok I'll grab the shot gun you get the 45 get to the kids room. Bang mans Dead family's alive. Your kids live to see Another day and dady will do anything to protect them

I don't take murder Lightly, my dad was a police officer and one of good friends was guned down in a police car on break haveing a conversation on the phone with his wife. the gun was found later on and it was legal.



Okay, you're an embarrassment to anyone in here trying to have a serious debate. You're talking about murder as if it was nothing. Yes, I'd have to risk myself by disarming someone, or I could use simple psychology to try and calm the attacker down. Not shoot him.


Dear Reckless Pro, where are you from? And do you know proper English?

On-topic:

If a mentally ill person built a gun, I'd be quite impressed.




That is not a Response lol , gotta Critique him to get off topic .

This is just showing your Background in weapons. you know nothing. Call of duty doesn't count

Have you ever fired a Weapon before? I guarantee not


No, I've never fired a weapon, and never want to. As I said, I don't want to be associated with guns.

And to the person who's constantly disliking my posts, well done big boy, we're having a debate, not an argument.
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So it doesn't matter what weapon a person has? Ok, do you truly believe 28 people would have died at Sandy Hook if the intruder had a pocket knife?
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