TrustedModders wrote The reason i don't believe in GOD is because no one has ever seen him, or can prove he is real. If he was real why would people die at such young ages?

Im not a religious believer, but nor am i atheist. But this is one viewpoint, maybe even two, that i cannot stand.
Reply to your first point - Talk me through the concept of wind, something you cannot see, but you believe in that.
Also letting people die at a young age? If everyone knew god was going to protect them in grave danger the world would be a much more dangerous place. An extension to this is, the after life is a utopian paradise, they will love it there. It is only in this world that we feel the pain.

could god be real? sure its possible but theres no hard evidence that god is real theres many different versions of the bible that has been passed down some of it,all of it, or none of it could be true but in the end its just a book and nothing else the only people that know if hes real or not is the ones that are dead and they cant tell us to much. There is alot of different religions and alot of different gods that people believe in so what makes one god real and all the rest not. Does that mean that all who dont follow the christian bible are going to hell simply because they believed in a different god.The bible is flawed and id rather not believe at all then take my chances picking a needle out of a haystack and hoping i picked the right "god" to follow.

There are so many flaws in "God" it's not even funny. At a young age you're very susceptible to being brainwashed, as you really can't think for yourself. I believe this is what has happened to most (not all)religious people. Sorry if I offended anyone, it's just what I believe.

StevenN1010 wrote

TrustedModders wrote The reason i don't believe in GOD is because no one has ever seen him, or can prove he is real. If he was real why would people die at such young ages?

Im not a religious believer, but nor am i atheist. But this is one viewpoint, maybe even two, that i cannot stand.
Reply to your first point - Talk me through the concept of wind, something you cannot see, but you believe in that.
Also letting people die at a young age? If everyone knew god was going to protect them in grave danger the world would be a much more dangerous place. An extension to this is, the after life is a utopian paradise, they will love it there. It is only in this world that we feel the pain.

You might not be able to see the wind, but you can feel it and hear it. You can't say the same about god.

StevenN1010 wrote

Euler wrote For the record it actually has been proven that something can be created from nothing. It is an extremely rare phenomena, but is yet proven. Basically when something is created from nothing, they are created in pairs, for example an electron, and it's anti counterpart, a positron. As they are created together in close proximity, they are attracted to each other and annihilate each other instantly, therefore meaning there is no net gain in matter in the Universe, unless they are created in very special circumstances, of which I will not go into.

As for the first law of thermodynamics, that energy cannot be created or destroyed, this still holds strong, but does not support the argument that the Universe must always have been here, as before the Universe was created in the Big Bang (more correctly called the Great Inflation nowadays) there were no laws of Physics, as there was nothing for them to exist in. The laws of Physics were only created post-Big Bang.

As for the unbelievable amount of energy there was when the Universe was created, this was a direct cause of the Big Bang itself. Almost like the shockwave after an explosion, but on a much much larger scale. However the origin of the Universe is still full of questions, and we still aren't really sure what happened, and (obviously), why.

Unfortunately you cannot use the bible to discredit a so called creator or deity, the bible is very simply (sorry if this causes offence to anybody) a story book. As a lot of the stories told in the bible have been scientifically disproven, but yet this does not disprove the possibility of there being a creator.

I personally am an Atheist, and always will be (I assume). But yet the idea of a creator is extremely comforting to some people, to know that things happen for a reason, and there is a higher power that can look after your life. This is why I will never discredit someone for believing in God, because it is a way of life, and can give some people meaning, and a purpose in life.
For example, Albert Einstein believed in God, because he knew it was human nature to want to believe that there is a higher, all controlling power, and it was comforting to him, as it is so many other people on our planet.

Will we ever prove there is a God? My guess is no. And due to that, I believe there will always be religion throughout the Human race, as there is no real way that we can disprove a God. It is a persons choice to believe in a God or not, and I feel very strongly against the people who push their children into religion, just because they are religious. For example one of my friends is as much an Atheist as I am, however up until he was 18, his parents forced him to go to church most Sundays. This, in my opinion, is wrong. It is a persons choice to believe in a God, and they are completely welcome to believe what they want.

The bit i have bolded is a far as i have got, Please give an example, if you're electron spiel is an example, that is wrong. Electrons are energy, Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only manipulated.

I'm personally not sure as to whether this phenomena could produce electrons and positrons, I gave them as an example as they are something the majority of people would be familiar with.

Firstly, we need to define what a vacuum really is. Rather than an empty void, it is theorised that it is a balance of matter and anti-matter, this would be unobservable as if they were balanced, their observable characteristics would cancel each other out. Anyway, it is mathematically theorised that a high-energy laser can rip apart the "nothingness" of the vacuum, turning it into it's constituent particles and anti-particles, and then setting off a chain reaction that generates matter-antimatter pairs, from nothing.

I can't really be bothered to explain how this works, but remember, this is all theory. But just because it is theory, does not mean it can be discredited, as the vast majority of modern day physics is all theory.

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StevenN1010 wrote

TrustedModders wrote The reason i don't believe in GOD is because no one has ever seen him, or can prove he is real. If he was real why would people die at such young ages?

Im not a religious believer, but nor am i atheist. But this is one viewpoint, maybe even two, that i cannot stand.
Reply to your first point - Talk me through the concept of wind, something you cannot see, but you believe in that.
Also letting people die at a young age? If everyone knew god was going to protect them in grave danger the world would be a much more dangerous place. An extension to this is, the after life is a utopian paradise, they will love it there. It is only in this world that we feel the pain.

You might not be able to see the wind, but you can feel it and hear it. You can't say the same about god.

I was hoping someone would come back with that remark and it just so happens to be the guy that just posted what i was going to reply with. You are taught from a young age that the fluster of air you can feel is wind and that when the trees move that is the wind, you never question it, after all so many people tell you it. But its just a word, same with God, as you say its the same theory, when you're young, you listen/look and learn you dont question, you just accept it.

StevenN1010 wrote

Disguise wrote

StevenN1010 wrote

TrustedModders wrote The reason i don't believe in GOD is because no one has ever seen him, or can prove he is real. If he was real why would people die at such young ages?

Im not a religious believer, but nor am i atheist. But this is one viewpoint, maybe even two, that i cannot stand.
Reply to your first point - Talk me through the concept of wind, something you cannot see, but you believe in that.
Also letting people die at a young age? If everyone knew god was going to protect them in grave danger the world would be a much more dangerous place. An extension to this is, the after life is a utopian paradise, they will love it there. It is only in this world that we feel the pain.

You might not be able to see the wind, but you can feel it and hear it. You can't say the same about god.

I was hoping someone would come back with that remark and it just so happens to be the guy that just posted what i was going to reply with. You are taught from a young age that the fluster of air you can feel is wind and that when the trees move that is the wind, you never question it, after all so many people tell you it. But its just a word, same with God, as you say its the same theory, when you're young, you listen/look and learn you dont question, you just accept it.

While you hold a good argument, wind is an awful example. Wind is a physical phenomena of which we can measure, predict, and know exactly what causes it and how.

Can you say the same thing about a God? No.

Something can not come from nothing. What are the chances of a car appearing before your eyes? Well that is simple 0/0. What are the chances of a rock and a rock coming together to form a living creature with complex organs and nervous systems? 0/0. There has to be God.

dchs_1998 wrote Something can not come from nothing. What are the chances of a car appearing before your eyes? Well that is simple 0/0. What are the chances of a rock and a rock coming together to form a living creature with complex organs and nervous systems? 0/0. There has to be God.

But then where did the god come from?

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And whoever said the Bible has changed so many times it just the spelling in it. Eg- I said unto him. Translation I said to him. And for the people saying "Where's the proof" research if you really want to know don't expect people to do it for you.