You know what I just can't seem to understand? The fact that this planet and it's solar system has been around for BILLIONS of years but Jesus was around in the beginning of the 1st century...
I just don't get that, so what we needed a man who lived "perfectly" to die for our "sins" after BILLIONS of years that during those BILLIONS of years most likely included records of human mistake and morality? I just don't know, I can't believe in religion seeing the fact that we actually live in a huge *ss universe where there's "infinite, constantly growing, trillions of miles of space," and I don't think Jesus sacrificed himself for "sins of intelligent species" on TRILLIONS of galaxies, including all of the solar systems inside them.

A good way to counteract religious-confusion is by using basic knowledge and logic, like astronomy or cosmology levels of science. Develop your own "life-philosophy" that starts from the ACTUAL beginning of TIME ITSELF, not our planet's early 1st century. I actually use to be a Christian myself, but now I believe that our lives might not even be real right now, that this so called "God" is actually just the true us, God is our inner, human moral, God is all in our heads just like everything else we perceive as we live "life", God is the deep-down understanding of "Right and Wrong" that is in our heads. Jesus is no one compared to the actual "Almighty Creator of The Universe and Time." So I'm not atheist, or any religion for that matter, I just philosophize everything I perceive and live through life/time.

Overall I believe that there is an Almighty Creator, but I do not believe that there is heaven or hell, those are unacceptably, non-logical afterlifes that are hard to believe if the "Christian God" made everything with that including human morality, but yet he made a "hell" for people to "burn for "eternity" because they lived their life evily"? I don't know, I just can't believe in eternity either seeing that everything doesn't last forever and eventually becomes "nothing".

Jesus was just a man who supposedly lived his life "perfectly" judging off of "God's Morality", which is actually deep-down understood from human morality. So I guess I'm agnostic but am also a very understanding being of philosophy.

This is pretty interesting. I can only wonder if this is actually a piece of the cross.
It would be revolutionary.

@M249 i am a christian and i dont actully think they found it simply because wood cant last that long but if it is perserved right it will change into a rock like subsistence not wood like.

Aggie wrote This is pretty interesting. I can only wonder if this is actually a piece of the cross.
It would be revolutionary.

Exactly how? Jesus was real, so what would be revolutionary?

Ninja_MAMBA1 wrote @M249 i am a christian and i dont actully think they found it simply because wood cant last that long but if it is perserved right it will change into a rock like subsistence not wood like.

Yes it can in the right state. They already carbon dated it back to supposedly when Jesus was alive. I still don't believe it's part of his.

Nuke- wrote

Aggie wrote This is pretty interesting. I can only wonder if this is actually a piece of the cross.
It would be revolutionary.

Exactly how? Jesus was real, so what would be revolutionary?

Jesus is fictional unless he was an "Extraterrestrial or a saint and kind guy to all of the people he came across. How many people can tell a good lie? Such as "I'm a God's son"

Alienwaree wrote Not exatcly funny.

Making fun of my religion isnt going to help you in life.

its hilarious to me to see people believe in an imaginary friend.

Ok so the found maybe a peice of Jesus cross and you guys are saying this doesn't mean he had powers you shouldn't have to have to see it to believe they wrote a book to prove of his existence and everything he did if you don't believe of him your loss.

GO_SND wrote Ok so the found maybe a peice of Jesus cross and you guys are saying this doesn't mean he had powers you shouldn't have to have to see it to believe they wrote a book to prove of his existence and everything he did if you don't believe of him your loss.

The Bible simply cannot be proof of something that is unfalsifiable.
Think of it like this.
If God exists, Earth is built on Faith.
If everyone knew God existed, Faith wouldn't exist.
Earth would be pointless in God's eyes, because life is a test.

You don't want there to be proof of God's existence and, logic would dictate, neither does he.

GO_SND wrote Ok so the found maybe a peice of Jesus cross and you guys are saying this doesn't mean he had powers you shouldn't have to have to see it to believe they wrote a book to prove of his existence and everything he did if you don't believe of him your loss.

No offence but they wrote a book about Mickey mouse but it doesnt prove that Mickey mouse is real.
The bible was written over 400 hundred years after the events within the bible and it was written by about 40 different people who never met each other .