HyperViper wrote

BigWes wrote He was paralyzed because of his own stupid actions, but of course he had to stop, block the SUV and angrily walk toward the family. You are biased.

So it's stupid that a driver FROM BEHIND couldn't stop in time? Ok, whatever you say, becoming more and more apparent you're nothing more than a troll who knows nothing about driving irl.

I know about safe driving, and the motorcyclists were not driving safely. The biker clearly knew what he was in for before the SUV bumped him.

HyperViper wrote

BigWes wrote Let me put this into perspective, so you can understand.

1. The SUV was being menaced by 25+ bikers before the first small collision occurred.
2. They surrounded him as if they were going to do something to harm him and his family.
3. There was no need for 25+ bikers to drive recklessly on the highway, especially to a vehicle with a family inside.
4. The motorcyclist tried to block the SUV, he is the idiot, no SUV is going to stop for a puny bike and a crazed biker.
5. As you see when the SUV is stopped in the video, the biker moves toward the SUV, as if he were going to do something.
6. They had no right to do this to anyone.

Now please, don't take the bikers side, we all know who is at fault here.

Again, yet another biased person who thinks it's ok to cripple a man.

1. They was riding back from an event, they wasn't ''harassing'' the SUV until he plowed in to the back of a rider (SUV drivers fault, could easily stop in time, wasn;t paying attention to the road).
2. Read above.
3. They was riding normally, the sheer number of them is due to riding back from an event, as already mentioned.
4. The motorcyclist was slowing down with his head turned to his friend, SUV had PLENTY of time to stop, again, SUV driver to blame for not stopping in time.
5. You've just been rammed by a SUV, of course you're going to be wanted words with the driver.
6. SUV driver had no rights paralyzing a human being.

Two frames in the video show exactly who is at fault

You don't do this in the middle of the road for no reason. You are at fault. I would compare it to those insurance scams that trap a driver to hit them. He even looked back at the SUV to see if he was in front of it. You say the SUV had time to stop. I say the biker had time to speed up. All in all, you don't stop in the middle of the road for no reason: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

You also don't pin a vehicle so it can't go anywhere. That itself is a form of intimidation and self defense is justified. Since it was self defense, it justifies the crippling of a man (even as bad as that sounds.) [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

BigWes wrote

HyperViper wrote

BigWes wrote He was paralyzed because of his own stupid actions, but of course he had to stop, block the SUV and angrily walk toward the family. You are biased.

So it's stupid that a driver FROM BEHIND couldn't stop in time? Ok, whatever you say, becoming more and more apparent you're nothing more than a troll who knows nothing about driving irl.

I know about safe driving, and the motorcyclists were not driving safely. The biker clearly knew what he was in for before the SUV bumped him.

You are clearly biased towards cars, as your profile indicates. You're opinion is arrogant to say the least. Please, feel free to PM to carry on this discussion, I've left more than enough statements to counter everything you've said.

Yin wrote Two frames in the video show exactly who is at fault

You don't do this in the middle of the road for no reason. You are at fault. I would compare it to those insurance scams that trap a driver to hit them. He even looked back at the SUV to see if he was in front of it. You say the SUV had time to stop. I say the biker had time to speed up. All in all, you don't stop in the middle of the road for no reason: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

You also don't pin a vehicle so it can't go anywhere. That itself is a form of intimidation and self defense is justified. Since it was self defense, it justifies the crippling of a man (even as bad as that sounds.) [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

Lol, now it's changed to an insurance scam conspiracy, the lengths some people will go to, he was looking behind to check how far away he was, that's what you do on bikes sometimes.

You are trying to stick up for someone who has crippled a man, pathetic.

HyperViper wrote

BigWes wrote

HyperViper wrote

BigWes wrote He was paralyzed because of his own stupid actions, but of course he had to stop, block the SUV and angrily walk toward the family. You are biased.

So it's stupid that a driver FROM BEHIND couldn't stop in time? Ok, whatever you say, becoming more and more apparent you're nothing more than a troll who knows nothing about driving irl.

I know about safe driving, and the motorcyclists were not driving safely. The biker clearly knew what he was in for before the SUV bumped him.

You are clearly biased towards cars, as your profile indicates. You're opinion is arrogant to say the least. Please, feel free to PM to carry on this discussion, I've left more than enough statements to counter everything you've said.

Please, stop calling everyone biased.
You cannot look at a situation like this objectively, you formulated an opinion the second you turned off the video.

HyperViper wrote

Yin wrote Two frames in the video show exactly who is at fault

You don't do this in the middle of the road for no reason. You are at fault. I would compare it to those insurance scams that trap a driver to hit them. He even looked back at the SUV to see if he was in front of it. You say the SUV had time to stop. I say the biker had time to speed up. All in all, you don't stop in the middle of the road for no reason: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

You also don't pin a vehicle so it can't go anywhere. That itself is a form of intimidation and self defense is justified. Since it was self defense, it justifies the crippling of a man (even as bad as that sounds.) [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

Lol, now it's changed to an insurance scam conspiracy, the lengths some people will go to, he was looking behind to check how far away he was, that's what you do on bikes sometimes.

You are trying to stick up for someone who has crippled a man, pathetic.

He said it's LIKE an insurance scam, not that it is one.

HyperViper wrote

WCDT wrote There are 3 sides to a story, 1 groups version, the other groups version and the truth.

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The guy on the motorcycle is not dead, around 20-30 surrounded the suv, damaged it and then slashed tires. I would have done the same thing which is get out of there because I fear for my families well being. I have owned a bike for years and those guys were driving like a bunch idiots. The whole incident could have been avoided if the bikes drove the right way instead of menacing people on the highway.

The driver of the SUV was in the wrong. The bikers were on a ride out, one biker attempted to slow down the SUV so that the others could get in front, the driver slows down then accelerates in to the back of the person on the motorbike for no bvious reason. Of course, that will spark a reaction, a normal person would have just said sorry but instead the psycho of a driver decided to run over them (causing one of them to be paralyzed from the waist down).

What's worse? Cosmetic damage or having your life turned upside down by some moron in an SUV?

The whole ''protecting my family'' is utter arrogant BS, bikers are not some vile scumbags, his family wouldn't have got hurt. It's normal for them to attack the driver as he's just about squashed a few of your fellow bikers.

Do you have any real world experience with anything?

First off, bikers can't just slow down traffic at their own will, that's called impeding the flow of traffic, which is against the law.

The group of bikers had a mob mentality, as soon as they saw a reason to, they started shit with the SUV driver.

When a large group of people stop you in the street, and surround you, regardless of their intentions, you will get scared.

Have you ever been in a life or death situation? I have, the SUV driver was potentially just in one. The human sympathetic nervous system kicks in your fight or flight response, you don't think you just do.

Who are you to say that all bikers aren't just vile scumbags, it doesn't matter what people are driving, they are everywhere. And they only get worse when in large numbers. And you are positive that the bikers would only go for the driver? You are in no position to say that. You are full of shit.

HyperViper wrote

Yin wrote Two frames in the video show exactly who is at fault

You don't do this in the middle of the road for no reason. You are at fault. I would compare it to those insurance scams that trap a driver to hit them. He even looked back at the SUV to see if he was in front of it. You say the SUV had time to stop. I say the biker had time to speed up. All in all, you don't stop in the middle of the road for no reason: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

You also don't pin a vehicle so it can't go anywhere. That itself is a form of intimidation and self defense is justified. Since it was self defense, it justifies the crippling of a man (even as bad as that sounds.) [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

Lol, now it's changed to an insurance scam conspiracy, the lengths some people will go to, he was looking behind to check how far away he was, that's what you do on bikes sometimes.

You are trying to stick up for someone who has crippled a man, pathetic.

You clearly are biased towards bikes. Also, you fail to recognize that the biker was slowing down while looking back, it does not make sense at all. Now what does make sense is that he was antagonizing the SUV, just a bunch of crazed dudes that think they own the road. Well look what it caused them.

P.S: Cars are not SUV's. There is a big difference, four wheels or two wheels does not make a difference on how your supposed to drive, same traffic laws apply.

Moby wrote Please, stop calling everyone biased.
You cannot look at a situation like this objectively, you formulated an opinion the second you turned off the video.

Of course i ''formulated'' an opinion, just like you.

Taken from what the people in the car said in an interview:

Our fear for our lives was confirmed when the incident ended with the ruthless and brutal attack on my husband, me, and, most importantly, our two-year-old child.''

What a load of BS, the only person getting attacked was the driver yet the woman is trying to make it it was on all of them, again, trying to make it sound worse than it is. The media have always had it in for bikers, more than 6 riders together is a ''gang'' nowadays. It's pathetic, it really is.

HyperViper wrote

Moby wrote Please, stop calling everyone biased.
You cannot look at a situation like this objectively, you formulated an opinion the second you turned off the video.

Of course i ''formulated'' an opinion, just like you.

Taken from what the people in the car said in an interview:

Our fear for our lives was confirmed when the incident ended with the ruthless and brutal attack on my husband, me, and, most importantly, our two-year-old child.''

What a load of BS, the only person getting attacked was the driver yet the woman is trying to make it it was on all of them, again, trying to make it sound worse than it is. The media have always had it in for bikers, more than 6 riders together is a ''gang'' nowadays. It's pathetic, it really is.

So your saying a minority of 25+ raged bikers around two victims (Mom and Daughter) is not dangerous. You are insane and out of your mind.