joeisjoe5 wrote Here are just a few comparisons, where is says "Your CPU" it is talking about the FX 8320.
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If you want to compare it to a specific i5 click the link below and where it says compare, search for the one you want then it will give you a detailed comparison.
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That is completely irrelevant. Ask anyone what's best. 8320 or i5. Everyone with even the slightest bit of PC knowledge will say the i5. Because it's just a fact.

Intel - High end gaming PC
AMD - Lower end gaming PC

Simplez.

I understand what your saying, I know Intel are generally better CPUs but this site is very reliable and is also open to suggestions from the community, if everyone disagreed with this being better than many i5s then the website would correct this...here is what it says with a comparison to the i5 4670R 3.7GHz.

The article is poo. It doesn't say it performs better all round. It compares the specs of each CPU which doesn't mean anything. Also, you're comparing a new 8320 with old 2nd gen i5's making it invalid. Lastly, the only time it says the 8320 is better is for server use, and i doubt he'll be using it for that.

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joeisjoe5 wrote Here are just a few comparisons, where is says "Your CPU" it is talking about the FX 8320.
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If you want to compare it to a specific i5 click the link below and where it says compare, search for the one you want then it will give you a detailed comparison.
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That is completely irrelevant. Ask anyone what's best. 8320 or i5. Everyone with even the slightest bit of PC knowledge will say the i5. Because it's just a fact.

Intel - High end gaming PC
AMD - Lower end gaming PC

Simplez.

I understand what your saying, I know Intel are generally better CPUs but this site is very reliable and is also open to suggestions from the community, if everyone disagreed with this being better than many i5s then the website would correct this...here is what it says with a comparison to the i5 4670R 3.7GHz.

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In terms of overall gaming performance, the AMD FX-8320 is very slightly better than the Intel Core i5-4670R 3.7GHz when it comes to running the latest games. This also means it will be less likely to bottleneck more powerful GPUs, allowing them to achieve more of their gaming performance potential.

The Core i5-4670R 3.7GHz was released less than a year after the FX-8320, and so they are likely to have similar levels of support, and similarly optimized performance when running the latest games.

Both CPUs exhibit very powerful performance, so it probably isn't worth upgrading from one to the other, as both are capable of running even the most demanding games at the highest settings (assuming they are accompanied by equivalently powerful GPUs).

The FX-8320 has 4 more cores than the Core i5-4670R 3.7GHz. 8 cores is probably excessive if you mean to just run the latest games, as games are not yet able to harness this many cores. The cores in the Core i5-4670R 3.7GHz is more than enough for gaming purposes. However, if you intend on running a server with the FX-8320, it would seem to be a decent choice.

More important for gaming than the number of cores and threads is the clock rate. Problematically, unless the two CPUs are from the same family, this can only serve as a general guide and nothing like an exact comparison, because the clock cycles per instruction (CPI) will vary so much.

The Core i5-4670R 3.7GHz and FX-8320 are not from the same family of CPUs, so their clock speeds are by no means directly comparable. Bear in mind, then, that while the Core i5-4670R 3.7GHz has a 0.2 GHz faster frequency, this is not always an indicator that it will be superior in performance, despite frequency being crucial when trying to avoid GPU bottlenecking. As such, we need to look elsewhere for more reliable comparisons.

Aside from the clock rate, the next-most important CPU features for PC game performance are L2 and L3 cache size. Faster than RAM, the more cache available, the more data that can be stored for lightning-fast retrieval. L1 Cache is not usually an issue anymore for gaming, with most high-end CPUs eking out about the same L1 performance, and L2 is more important than L3 - but L3 is still important if you want to reach the highest levels of performance. Bear in mind that although it is better to have a larger cache, the larger it is, the higher the latency, so a balance has to be struck.

The FX-8320 has a 7168 KB bigger L2 cache than the Core i5-4670R 3.7GHz, which means that it, at worst, wins out in this area, and at best, will provide superior gaming performance and will work much better with high-end graphics cards.

The maximum Thermal Design Power is the power in Watts that the CPU will consume in the worst case scenario. The lithography is the semiconductor manufacturing technology being used to create the CPU - the smaller this is, the more transistors that can be fit into the CPU, and the closer the connections. For both the lithography and the TDP, it is the lower the better, because a lower number means a lower amount of power is necessary to run the CPU, and consequently a lower amount of heat is produced.

The Core i5-4670R 3.7GHz has a 60 Watt lower Maximum TDP than the FX-8320, and was created with a 10 nm smaller manufacturing technology. What this means is the Core i5-4670R 3.7GHz will consume significantly less power and consequently produce less heat, enabling more prolonged computational tasks with fewer adverse effects. This will lower your yearly electricity bill significantly, as well as prevent you from having to invest in extra cooling mechanisms (unless you overclock).

The Core i5-4670R 3.7GHz has an on-board GPU, which means that it will be capable of running basic graphics applications (i.e., games) without the need for a dedicated graphics card. The FX-8320, however, does not, and you will probably have to look for a dedicated card if you wish to use it at all.

Compare it to the 4670K and it will not even stand a chance. I have never heard of a R Series CPU by Intel, so that goes to show how "good" they are lol.

But seriously, the 8320 doesn't stand up to Intel i5's...

Craigyy wrote This will do you just fine then.

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What case have you got?

An old alienware case i had lying around.

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Hoop wrote The article is poo. It doesn't say it performs better all round. It compares the specs of each CPU which doesn't mean anything. Also, you're comparing a new 8320 with old 2nd gen i5's making it invalid. Lastly, the only time it says the 8320 is better is for server use, and i doubt he'll be using it for that.

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forgot to add - the 8320 I was comparing was released 8 months BEFORE the i5 I was comparing

Stop, you're not helping. Obviously we wouldn't suggest a 2nd gen i5 in a new build, stop saying an 8320 is better than some i5's. Seriously if you don't know what you're talking about don't post.

Hoop wrote Stop, you're not helping. Obviously we wouldn't suggest a 2nd gen i5 in a new build, stop saying an 8320 is better than some i5's. Seriously if you don't know what you're talking about don't post.

Well considering he wants a cheap build you aren't really going to be able to suggest to him many i5s that are better than the 8320, and an 8320 is better than some i5s so I don't see why I shouldn't say it. And what I was talking about - I knew what I was saying...therefore I will post.

Uh, this thread isnt a warzone.