ZTechGame1 wrote Those Police officers, arh hard to even say they are Police officers god.

No one has any trust/faith in the police anymore, well here in the UK no one does.

Why does it have to be one or the other?
There's nothing stopping Christians and Muslims praying side by side.

What a completely idiotic thing to say. There's everything wrong about Christians and Muslims praying side by side. It is believed that if you're not a muslim, you're going to hell (In a muslim persons eyes).

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Dorkus wrote The security guards need to be put in jail for breaking the family's first amendment rights.

Lol, idiot. Can't believe you just said that.

How is he an "idiot" the first amendment states that there is freedom of religion and assembly.

ok let's give them the first amendment rights and let all the other religion beliefs not have a 1st amendment it's ok family you have the rights but I guess all the other religions don't.

Why does it have to be one or the other?
There's nothing stopping Christians and Muslims praying side by side.

What a completely idiotic thing to say. There's everything wrong about Christians and Muslims praying side by side. It is believed that if you're not a muslim, you're going to hell (In a muslim persons eyes).
No, there is actually nothing wrong with them praying side by side. Where one believes the other is going after they die is irrelevant. It's all about the now. If the two can coexist peacefully and pray together peacefully, then that is the way it should be. As long as there is a mutual respect, then the two can pray side by side. There are actually pictures of Muslims forming a wall around praying Christians to protect them and vice versa. It is a beautiful thing to see.

amendment state they have a right to pray

Some of the verses of the qu'ran, this is what they follow.

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360MoTioN wrote Some of the verses of the qu'ran, this is what they follow.

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These verses were revealed during battles and fight
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The Prophet Muhammad taught love, kindness and compassion to his people, and was seen to be the most loving, kind, and compassionate of all of them. The Quran mentions his kind and gentle behavior in these words: "O Messenger of Allah! It is a great Mercy of God that you are gentle and kind towards them; for, had you been harsh and hard-hearted, they would all have broken away from you" (Quran 3:159).

There are many instances that show his kindness and gentleness, especially to the weak and the poor. Anas, who was his helper, said: "I served Allah's Messenger for ten years and he never said to me, 'Shame' or 'Why did you do such-and-such a thing?' or 'Why did you not do such-and-such a thing?'" (Bukhari, 2038).

Once he said to his wife: "0 'A'ishah! Never turn away any needy man from your door empty-handed. 0 'A'ishah! Love the poor; bring them near to you and God will bring you near to Him on the Day of Resurrection". He also went much further on to say: "Seek me among your weak ones, for you are given provision, or you are given help only by reason of the presence of your weak ones". (Rahman, Encyclopedia of Seerah, VOL. VIII, p. 151) God Almighty is Kind, and the Prophet imitated Allah's example in its perfection by showing kindness to his servants and all creatures without any regard for their beliefs, color or nationality. The Prophet said: "God is kind and likes kindness in all things" (Bukhari, 6601).

His heart ached within him at the corrupt state of his fellow-Meccans and their rejection of One God. The Holy Quran testifies to it in these words: "0 Muhammad, you will, perhaps, consume yourself with grief because the people do not believe" (Quran 26:3). In Surah Kahf, we read: "Well, 0 Muhammad, it may be that you will kill yourself for their sake out of sorrow if they do not believe in this Message." (Quran 18:6). And Surah Fatir says: "So let not your life be consumed in grief for their sake." (Quran 35:8).

He took a great interest in the welfare of all people and had great compassion for people in trouble. The Prophet Muhammad imitated the attributes of God par excellence and translated them into practice in the highest form possible for man. Kindness is an attribute of Allah, which has no limits. It is extensive and encompasses all things and all beings without discrimination. Likewise was the kindness of the Prophet. He extended it to all beings, both animate and inanimate and benefited all without measure. The Quranic words for the Prophet's kindness, ra'ufun rahirn (Quran 9:128) are very intensive and comprehensive in meaning and convey the true nature and extent of the Prophet's kindness to people. The Prophet said: "One of the finest acts of kindness is for a man to treat his fathers' friends in a kindly way after he has departed" (Abu dawud, 5123)

The issue of treating friends well was also extended to include relations: "He who wishes to have his provision enlarged and his term of life prolonged should treat his relatives well" (Bukhari, 5985). He emphasized on this matter because he deeply held the view that "Only kindness prolongs life, and a person is deprived of provisions for the faults he commits" (Ibn Majah). Bahz b. Hakim, on his father's authority, said that his grandfather told him that he had asked Allah's Messenger to whom he should show kindness and that the Prophet had replied: "Your mother." He asked who came next and he replied: "Your mother." He asked who came next and he replied for the third time: "Your mother." He again asked who came next and he replied: "Your father, then your relatives in order of relationship" (Abu dawud, 5120). He dwelled on the issue of treating orphans humanely as he stated that "The best house among the Muslims is one which contains an orphan who is well treated, and the worst house among the Muslims is one which contains an orphan who is badly treated" (Ibn Majah, 3679). This means that the Prophet cautioned his followers against general maltreatment of anyone regardless of his status. By extending good treatment from friends to relatives and now to neighbors, Prophet Muhammad was intent in making all humans interdependent as he emphasized in the following words: "All creatures are Allah's dependants, and those dearest to God are the ones who treat His dependants kindly" (Rahman, VOL VIII, p. 154). He emphasized the kind treatment of women again and again in his speeches:


Treat women kindly, since they are your helpers; . . . you have your rights upon your wives and they have their rights upon you. Your right is that they shall not allow anyone you dislike to enter your bed or your home, and their right is that you should treat them well. (from the Farewell Sermon of the Prophet)

Once a number of women complained to the Prophet's wives about their ill-treatment by their husbands. On hearing of this, the Prophet said: "Such persons among you are not good persons." (Abu Dawud, 1834). This condemnation by the Prophet himself was an indication that no one will be accepted before God who, while on earth, decided to be unkind to women. Another person said to the Prophet: "0 Messenger of Allah! My relatives are such that although I cooperate with them, they cut me off; I am kind to them but they ill treat me." The Prophet said this in reply: "So long as you continue as you are, God will always help you and He will protect you against their mischief" (Muslim, 4640). This was not only a way of bringing comfort to the mind of the worried person but one of the communicative techniques of the Prophet to assure who ever found himself in that situation to look up to God to be consoled and protected. So it was pointless to preach vengeance to this kind of people suffering from this similar fate. Indeed, Prophet Muhammad was nothing short of a competent counselor.

He was always counseling people to be goodhearted regardless of their sex, age or gender. Once Asma bint Abu Bakr's mother, who was still an unbeliever, came to see her in Madinah. She told this to the Prophet and said: "My mother has come to see me and she is expecting something from me. May I oblige her?" The Prophet said: "Yes, be kind to your mother" (Muslim, 2195). This attitude of the Prophet was equally extended to Zainab as-Saqafia, the wife of Abdullah ibn Mas'ud and an Ansari woman. She went to see the Prophet and to inquire whether it would be a charity if they spent something on their husbands and on the orphans under their care. The Prophet said: "They will get a two-fold reward, one for kindness towards their relatives and the other for charity" (Bukhari, 1466).

There are many Ahadith concerning his kindness to animals, birds and insects: "God prescribed kindness towards everything; so when you slaughter any animal, slaughter it well; when you sacrifice, make your sacrifice good. And let everyone sharpen his weapon and make it easy for his sacrificed animal" (Muslim, 5055). He made this kind of statement to demonstrate his love for both humans and animals. In essence, Prophet Muhammad was equally showing his followers that he too is feels pain.

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And this is the forgiveness shown to non-muslims who opposed and persecuted the Prophet (S): The mercy of the Prophet even extended to those who brutally killed and then mutilated the body of his uncle Hamzah, one of the most beloved of people to the Prophet. Hamzah was one of the earliest to accept Islam and, through his power and position in the Quraishite hierarchy, diverted much harm from the Muslims. An Abyssinian slave of the wife of Abu Sufyan, Hind, sought out and killed Hamzah in the battle of Uhud. The night before the victory of Mecca, Abu Sufyan accepted Islam, fearing the vengeance of the Prophet, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him. The latter forgave him and sought no retribution for his years of enmity.

After Hind had killed Hamzah she mutilated his body by cutting his chest and tearing his liver and heart into pieces. When she quietly came to the Prophet and accepted Islam, he recognized her but did not say anything. She was so impressed by his magnanimity and stature that she said, O Messenger of God, no tent was more deserted in my eyes than yours; but today no tent is more lovely in my eyes than yours.

Ikrama, son of Abu Jahl, was a great enemy of the Prophet and Islam. He ran away after the victory of Mecca and went to Yemen. After his wife embraced Islam, she brought him to the Prophet Muhammad under her protection. He was so pleased to see him that he greeted him with the words:

O emigrant rider, welcome.

Safwan ibn Umaya, one of the chiefs of Mecca, was also a great enemy of Muhammad and Islam. He promised a reward to Umair ibn Wahab if he managed to kill Muhammad. When Mecca was conquered, Safwan ran away to Jeddah in the hope of finding a berth that would take him to Yemen by sea. Umair ibn Wahab came to Muhammad and said, O Messenger of God! Safwan ibn Umayya, a chief of his tribe, has run away from fear of what you might do to him and threatens to cast himself into the sea. The Prophet sent him a guarantee of protection and, when he returned, he requested Muhammad to give him two months to come to a decision.. He was given four months, after which he became a Muslim by his own will.

Habir ibn al-Aswad was another vicious enemy of Muhammad and Islam. He inflicted a serious injury to Zainab, daughter of the Noble Prophet when she decided to migrate to Medina. She was pregnant when she started her migration, and the polytheists of Mecca tried to stop her from leaving. This particular man, Habbar ibn al-Aswad, physically assaulted her and intentionally caused her to fall down from her camel. Her fall had caused her to miscarry her baby, and she herself, was badly hurt. He had committed many other crimes against Muslims as well. He wanted flee to Persia but, when he decided to come to Muhammad instead, the Prophet magnanimously forgave him.

The tribe of Quraish the were archenemies of Islam and, for a period of thirteen years while he was still in Mecca, they would rebuke the Prophet, taunt and mock him, beat him and abuse him, both physically and mentally. They placed the afterbirth of a camel on his back while he prayed, and they boycotted him and his tribe until the social sanctions became unbearable. They plotted and attempted to kill him on more than one occasion, and when the Prophet escaped to Medina, they rallied the majority of the Arab tribes and waged many wars against him. Yet, when he entered Mecca victorious with an army of 10,000, he did not take revenge on anyone. The Prophet said to the Quraish:

O people of Quraish! What do you think I will do to you?

Hoping for a good response, they said: You will do good. You are a noble brother, son of a noble brother.

The Prophet then said:

Then I say to you what Joseph said to his brothers: There is no blame upon you. Go! For you all free!.[1]

Rarely in the annals of history can we read such an instance of forgiveness. Even his deadliest enemy Abu Sufyan, who led so many battles against Islam, was forgiven, as was any person who stayed in his house and did not come to fight him.

The Prophet was all for forgiveness and no amount of crime or aggression against him was too great to be forgiven by him. He was the complete example of forgiveness and kindness, as mentioned in the following verse of the Quran:

Keep to forgiveness (O Muhammad), and enjoin kindness, and turn away from the ignorant. (Quran 7:199)

He always repelled evil with the good of forgiveness and kind behavior for, in his view, an antidote was better than poison. He believed and practiced the precept that love could foil hatred, and aggression could be won over by forgiveness. He overcame the ignorance of the people with the knowledge of Islam, and the folly and evil of the people with his kind and forgiving treatment. With his forgiveness, he freed people from the bondage of sin and crime, and also made them great friends of Islam. He was an epitome of the verse of the Quran:

Good and evil are not alike. Repel evil with what is better. Then he, between whom and you there was hatred, will become as though he was a bosom friend. (Quran 41:34

Establish wrote

Tyran wrote I think it's a little bit difficult to say the Muslims are wrong/right or the security persons are wrong/right. In case their intention was a terroristic plan or instruction, it's just right to stop them and move them out.

NBC wrote This is really messed up, but not surprising... The grand old state I live in did this. The security guards could still be a little upset from 9/11 I'm just putting it in their possible perspective.

Horizex wrote The way I see it if they don't like it they can go back to their third world country.

ImJustDreu wrote I'm going to express my opinion here, I think they did the right thing for removing them. They are spreading fear in the public's eyes and causing panic in a building can overrule the first amendment rights. I would not feel safe if I were around them, removing them was probably the best option. But that's my opinion

You have got to be kidding me. It sickens me that even to this day, when people look to Muslims, they think that they are terrorists. It makes sense though, the media brainwashed people after 9/11, and most people don't have common sense. Look at it this way, Islam is the second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, with 1.6 billion followers, or 23% of the world's population. If you honestly tell me that 23% of the world's population are terrorists, you are an idiot.

It is kind of sickening to read some of the comments on this thread, particularly the last two comments I quoted. I'm not a Muslim myself, but some of the nicest people I know are Muslims, and it is terrible to read that some people still presume that Muslims all are terrorists because of one event that a couple of people, out of the billions of Muslims, caused 13 years ago. Around 12000 people are members of Al-Qeada, according to Wikipedia. This is around 0.0000075% of the entire Muslim population. If that small percentage of the population of a 1.6 billion strong religion causes you to hate the entire religion as a result, you are an idiot.

People like some of you (especially ImJustDreu) on this thread are the problem. Stop being idiots and bigots and open your eyes. Realize that someone following their religion doesn't automatically make them a bad person, or a terrorist. Realize that every religion has bad people who follow it, including Christianity.

I agree with you until you said "one Event" It happens all the time. where i live you get muslims marching down the streets saying Something like "if your not muslim You with burn in hell" Im even afraid to go out side sometimes.

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Establish wrote

Tyran wrote I think it's a little bit difficult to say the Muslims are wrong/right or the security persons are wrong/right. In case their intention was a terroristic plan or instruction, it's just right to stop them and move them out.

NBC wrote This is really messed up, but not surprising... The grand old state I live in did this. The security guards could still be a little upset from 9/11 I'm just putting it in their possible perspective.

Horizex wrote The way I see it if they don't like it they can go back to their third world country.

ImJustDreu wrote I'm going to express my opinion here, I think they did the right thing for removing them. They are spreading fear in the public's eyes and causing panic in a building can overrule the first amendment rights. I would not feel safe if I were around them, removing them was probably the best option. But that's my opinion

You have got to be kidding me. It sickens me that even to this day, when people look to Muslims, they think that they are terrorists. It makes sense though, the media brainwashed people after 9/11, and most people don't have common sense. Look at it this way, Islam is the second-largest religion in the world after Christianity, with 1.6 billion followers, or 23% of the world's population. If you honestly tell me that 23% of the world's population are terrorists, you are an idiot.

It is kind of sickening to read some of the comments on this thread, particularly the last two comments I quoted. I'm not a Muslim myself, but some of the nicest people I know are Muslims, and it is terrible to read that some people still presume that Muslims all are terrorists because of one event that a couple of people, out of the billions of Muslims, caused 13 years ago. Around 12000 people are members of Al-Qeada, according to Wikipedia. This is around 0.0000075% of the entire Muslim population. If that small percentage of the population of a 1.6 billion strong religion causes you to hate the entire religion as a result, you are an idiot.

People like some of you (especially ImJustDreu) on this thread are the problem. Stop being idiots and bigots and open your eyes. Realize that someone following their religion doesn't automatically make them a bad person, or a terrorist. Realize that every religion has bad people who follow it, including Christianity.

I agree with you until you said "one Event" It happens all the time. where i live you get muslims marching down the streets saying Something like "if your not muslim You with burn in hell" Im even afraid to go out side sometimes.

Where I live, you get Christians marching down the streets saying something like "If you're not Christian you will burn in hell". I'm even afraid to go outside sometimes.