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Everyone has stated something in a "discussion" that they have nothing about. The one that is really pissing me off is the Israel/Gaza. I don't know shit about it, but I know more than 99% of the people outside Israel and Gaza. What really pisses me off about it is that people actually have the nerve to think that Israel is targeting civilians. They call them, they send a warning missile then they shoot the deadly missile. They give people time to get theie things and leave. Hamas's favorite strategy is to use Human body shields. They surround themselves around civilians all the time. Hamas has sent over 2000 rockets/missiles whatever you want to call them into Israel. What would ANY COUNTRY do if they have been attacked and attacked. They would FIGHT BACK. What would the US do if a terrorist group started shooting missiles into the US and wouldn't stop. We would bomb the shit out of them. Stop trying to say that Israel is the terrorists and they should all be killed. They have the right to defend their country, they have been through A LOT of shit, they deserve their land. They will not loose that is in the Bible. The bible has never been wrong. Another thing is the death toll, Israel has the technology to defend their country. The Iron Dome is there for a reason. Of course the death toll is going to be hire on the other side. People that judge a country about death tolls are idiots.
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If the situation was going down the exact same way to the US, I would blame the US. Name any country and I will blame them for the civilian death rate if they were in the same exact situation.

If I have the story right, Israel and Egypt closed the borders off to Palestinians a long time ago. They can't even get aid and other supplies until those countries ok it. A country would get tired of that type of imprisonment, no? I'm not justifying Hamas firing rockets, but I won't act like it wasn't coming if that stuff is true. They won't even open the borders up to let people out. Where are the Palestinians suppose to go? There is nowhere. They have a small piece of land in a small country. A pregnant woman did try to run. Guess what happened to her. She got killed.

I am reading an article on Dailymail that would suggest that no one can even prove that Hamas is using human shields. It is just Israel's claims. Israel shouldn't be smashing that small piece of land with missiles if they don't have a plan to get the innocent people out. That right there is where they were wrong. Hamas shouldn't have fired their missiles, and Israel should't fire their missiles when people are still in the area. A UN human rights chief is even saying that Israel may be guilty of war crimes.

If I am wrong on any information, then please educate me on the matter. As I am reading this though, it isn't looking good for Israel. I understand self-defense, but this is far beyond that.
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Yin wrote If the situation was going down the exact same way to the US, I would blame the US. Name any country and I will blame them for the civilian death rate if they were in the same exact situation.

If I have the story right, Israel and Egypt closed the borders off to Palestinians a long time ago. They can't even get aid and other supplies until those countries ok it. A country would get tired of that type of imprisonment, no? I'm not justifying Hamas firing rockets, but I won't act like it wasn't coming if that stuff is true. They won't even open the borders up to let people out. Where are the Palestinians suppose to go? There is nowhere. They have a small piece of land in a small country. A pregnant woman did try to run. Guess what happened to her. She got killed.

I am reading an article on Dailymail that would suggest that no one can even prove that Hamas is using human shields. It is just Israel's claims. Israel shouldn't be smashing that small piece of land with missiles if they don't have a plan to get the innocent people out. That right there is where they were wrong. Hamas shouldn't have fired their missiles, and Israel should't fire their missiles when people are still in the area. A UN human rights chief is even saying that Israel may be guilty of war crimes.

If I am wrong on any information, then please educate me on the matter. As I am reading this though, it isn't looking good for Israel. I understand self-defense, but this is far beyond that.


Here you go I have the perfect example of Hamas using civilians: Forums/t=6630232/un-finds-hamas-r...-time.html

But Im not sure about dailymail, but Many websites escpecially ones like Russia's RT only post articles that make Israel look bad from what I've seen.
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I personally don't care for whats going on over there as it doesn't affect me here in the US, yet, nor do I support either side. But, let's use different countries as an example.

Let's say Al-Qaeda (Hamas) goes into Canada (Gaza) and sets up rockets and what not in public places and starts bombing people in the US (Israel). By your logic, it would be okay if the US starts bombing Canada because of a terrorist group, not a country, bombed the US? That's where I see the problem with what Israel is doing. Many people and countries support Gaza and are protesting what Israel is doing. Even the UN is questioning what they're doing. Only people I've ever heard of supporting Israel, is of course, people here in the US. It's also over-hyped, this "war" has been going on back and forth forever.

Once again though, I do not support either side and don't really care, it's their problem, they've got to deal with it, preferably in a peaceful way. So, please, don't flame me or anything, just stating my opinion and that I agree with you. People should do more research before saying they support one side or even act like they care at all.
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Miss wrote I personally don't care for whats going on over there as it doesn't affect me here in the US, yet, nor do I support either side. But, let's use different countries as an example.

Let's say Al-Qaeda (Hamas) goes into Canada (Gaza) and sets up rockets and what not in public places and starts bombing people in the US (Israel). By your logic, it would be okay if the US starts bombing Canada because of a terrorist group, not a country, bombed the US? That's where I see the problem with what Israel is doing. Many people and countries support Gaza and are protesting what Israel is doing. Even the UN is questioning what they're doing. Only people I've ever heard of supporting Israel, is of course, people here in the US. It's also over-hyped, this "war" has been going on back and forth forever.

Once again though, I do not support either side and don't really care, it's their problem, they've got to deal with it, preferably in a peaceful way. So, please, don't flame me or anything, just stating my opinion and that I agree with you. People should do more research before saying they support one side or even act like they care at all.


I agree with you on everything except for your example, My only issue with your example is you say if Al-Qaeda goes into canada and sets up rockets there (Personally I dont Like canada anyway #JustSaying) But hamas is different, They are the government of Palestine, and what there doing is something the government should never do. But other than that I totally agree with you
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Miss wrote I personally don't care for whats going on over there as it doesn't affect me here in the US, yet, nor do I support either side. But, let's use different countries as an example.

Let's say Al-Qaeda (Hamas) goes into Canada (Gaza) and sets up rockets and what not in public places and starts bombing people in the US (Israel). By your logic, it would be okay if the US starts bombing Canada because of a terrorist group, not a country, bombed the US? That's where I see the problem with what Israel is doing. Many people and countries support Gaza and are protesting what Israel is doing. Even the UN is questioning what they're doing. Only people I've ever heard of supporting Israel, is of course, people here in the US. It's also over-hyped, this "war" has been going on back and forth forever.

Once again though, I do not support either side and don't really care, it's their problem, they've got to deal with it, preferably in a peaceful way. So, please, don't flame me or anything, just stating my opinion and that I agree with you. People should do more research before saying they support one side or even act like they care at all.


I agree with you on everything except for your example, My only issue with your example is you say if Al-Qaeda goes into canada and sets up rockets there (Personally I dont Like canada anyway #JustSaying) But hamas is different, They are the government of Palestine, and what there doing is something the government should never do. But other than that I totally agree with you


Well, I guess it really depends on what you want to say. Some countries, mostly western (US, Canada, Israel, UK, etc.), consider Hamas a terrorist organization whilst other countries, usually eastern (Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Russia, etc.), consider Hamas a government.
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Miss wrote
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Miss wrote I personally don't care for whats going on over there as it doesn't affect me here in the US, yet, nor do I support either side. But, let's use different countries as an example.

Let's say Al-Qaeda (Hamas) goes into Canada (Gaza) and sets up rockets and what not in public places and starts bombing people in the US (Israel). By your logic, it would be okay if the US starts bombing Canada because of a terrorist group, not a country, bombed the US? That's where I see the problem with what Israel is doing. Many people and countries support Gaza and are protesting what Israel is doing. Even the UN is questioning what they're doing. Only people I've ever heard of supporting Israel, is of course, people here in the US. It's also over-hyped, this "war" has been going on back and forth forever.

Once again though, I do not support either side and don't really care, it's their problem, they've got to deal with it, preferably in a peaceful way. So, please, don't flame me or anything, just stating my opinion and that I agree with you. People should do more research before saying they support one side or even act like they care at all.


I agree with you on everything except for your example, My only issue with your example is you say if Al-Qaeda goes into canada and sets up rockets there (Personally I dont Like canada anyway #JustSaying) But hamas is different, They are the government of Palestine, and what there doing is something the government should never do. But other than that I totally agree with you


Well, I guess it really depends on what you want to say. Some countries, mostly western (US, Canada, Israel, UK, etc.), consider Hamas a terrorist organization whilst other countries, usually eastern (Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Russia, etc.), consider Hamas a government.
I consider hamas a goverment with terrorist traits. But in my opinion russia probably is only siding with them because of the US government stance on this subject.
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Yin wrote If the situation was going down the exact same way to the US, I would blame the US. Name any country and I will blame them for the civilian death rate if they were in the same exact situation.

If I have the story right, Israel and Egypt closed the borders off to Palestinians a long time ago. They can't even get aid and other supplies until those countries ok it. A country would get tired of that type of imprisonment, no? I'm not justifying Hamas firing rockets, but I won't act like it wasn't coming if that stuff is true. They won't even open the borders up to let people out. Where are the Palestinians suppose to go? There is nowhere. They have a small piece of land in a small country. A pregnant woman did try to run. Guess what happened to her. She got killed.

I am reading an article on Dailymail that would suggest that no one can even prove that Hamas is using human shields. It is just Israel's claims. Israel shouldn't be smashing that small piece of land with missiles if they don't have a plan to get the innocent people out. That right there is where they were wrong. Hamas shouldn't have fired their missiles, and Israel should't fire their missiles when people are still in the area. A UN human rights chief is even saying that Israel may be guilty of war crimes.

If I am wrong on any information, then please educate me on the matter. As I am reading this though, it isn't looking good for Israel. I understand self-defense, but this is far beyond that.


i dont know much about this at all realy. but i do know that Israel did call to say they were launching missiles. And told them to evacuate. Just like OP said. Then they did not evacuate i guess, but they gave them a fair warning.
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I Hate what israel are doing to gaza.
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Miss wrote I personally don't care for whats going on over there as it doesn't affect me here in the US, yet, nor do I support either side. But, let's use different countries as an example.

Let's say Al-Qaeda (Hamas) goes into Canada (Gaza) and sets up rockets and what not in public places and starts bombing people in the US (Israel). By your logic, it would be okay if the US starts bombing Canada because of a terrorist group, not a country, bombed the US? That's where I see the problem with what Israel is doing. Many people and countries support Gaza and are protesting what Israel is doing. Even the UN is questioning what they're doing. Only people I've ever heard of supporting Israel, is of course, people here in the US. It's also over-hyped, this "war" has been going on back and forth forever.

Once again though, I do not support either side and don't really care, it's their problem, they've got to deal with it, preferably in a peaceful way. So, please, don't flame me or anything, just stating my opinion and that I agree with you. People should do more research before saying they support one side or even act like they care at all.


I see your point but I support Israel till the end personally. Any country that has morals would take steps after steps to make sure civilians are safe or as safe as possible. Israel does warn them 2 times to get out and get there things. Unfortunately in any conflict innocent people will die, and Israel does have to do whatever they need to, to protect their people. But I do see your point, and I'm glad we don't have to start yelling at each other haha.
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