ShadowBoltDashie wrote Another thing I see wrong with this, is that Uzi didn't have the training stock or vertical fore grip they put on at most shooting ranges for new time shooters. I've been to a few shooting ranges out of state and almost every one I went to, any high powered weapon or automatic, if it was your first time with that weapon, they encouraged a training stock (normally wooden) to be on it and a vertical fore grip. One more thing I notice that is wrong, is she is holding the weapon with both hands at the grip and trigger, while the instructor had his hand underneath the clip, which didn't look like he was even really holding it, most of resting it there, instead of having her hold it underneath the barrel. There are many things that could have been done to avoid this type of thing, granted I'm sure not a single person expected it to happen, but it seems like that shooting range wasn't really enforcing some common sense practice with such things.

This reply makes me think you've never even touched a gun.
1. They don't ask you how many times you've shot.
2. "Training" stocks are normally not wooden, they are plastic.
3. Where have you went to see attachments out on a gun at a range
4. A lot of ranges either let you just walk in and shoot or pay then shoot, no coaching or training done.
5. Obviously she should be holding the gun with two hands, we're not on Grove Street
6. The instructor had his hands there to help but obviously failed at his job.

I see nothing wrong with a child shooting a gun, obviously an automatic Uzi should not of been her gun but things happen.

i might be wrong but i thought fully automatic guns were illegal in the US. Also thats crazy what happend also very sad

wow.. That is just disturbing...

byExit wrote i might be wrong but i thought fully automatic guns were illegal in the US. Also thats crazy what happend also very sad

With a class C permit you can own a automatic firearm but you get it after a year of purchasing the firearm and paying for the license and anything else.

BOVMods wrote

byExit wrote i might be wrong but i thought fully automatic guns were illegal in the US. Also thats crazy what happend also very sad

With a class C permit you can own a automatic firearm but you get it after a year of purchasing the firearm and paying for the license and anything else.

thanks for clearing that up for me. i dont know much about firearms

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ShadowBoltDashie wrote Another thing I see wrong with this, is that Uzi didn't have the training stock or vertical fore grip they put on at most shooting ranges for new time shooters. I've been to a few shooting ranges out of state and almost every one I went to, any high powered weapon or automatic, if it was your first time with that weapon, they encouraged a training stock (normally wooden) to be on it and a vertical fore grip. One more thing I notice that is wrong, is she is holding the weapon with both hands at the grip and trigger, while the instructor had his hand underneath the clip, which didn't look like he was even really holding it, most of resting it there, instead of having her hold it underneath the barrel. There are many things that could have been done to avoid this type of thing, granted I'm sure not a single person expected it to happen, but it seems like that shooting range wasn't really enforcing some common sense practice with such things.

This reply makes me think you've never even touched a gun.
1. They don't ask you how many times you've shot.
2. "Training" stocks are normally not wooden, they are plastic.
3. Where have you went to see attachments out on a gun at a range
4. A lot of ranges either let you just walk in and shoot or pay then shoot, no coaching or training done.
5. Obviously she should be holding the gun with two hands, we're not on Grove Street
6. The instructor had his hands there to help but obviously failed at his job.

I see nothing wrong with a child shooting a gun, obviously an automatic Uzi should not of been her gun but things happen.

1. I never said they asked how many times you've shot, if you went up and said "this is my first time shooting *whatever gun*" then they may encourage training stocks for it, especially if you're a kid and the parents don't want to try you off on a .22.

2. For Uzi's all training stocks I've seen at ranges were wooden.

3. Raahauge's Shooting Range in Corona, California had stocks for some guns.

OnTarget Range in Orange County, California had slide-fire stocks you could rent (back in 2011, don't know if now.)

Montgomery County Shooting Complex in Clarksville, Tennessee had training stocks, had a removable wooden fore grip to rent.

Clark County Shooting Park in Las Vegas, Nevada had different scopes you could put on an AR-15 if you wish to shoot at longer ranges.

4. I know this, but obviously the parents wanted their 9 year old kid to have an instructor.

5. I know she should be holding the gun with 2 hands, but not with both hands on the grip and trigger. One hand at the grip and trigger, the other underneath the barrel.

6. Again, I know this, but it didn't look like he even really gripped it, granted he shouldn't have had a death grip on it, however, it looked like he just let it rest in his hand instead of having some grip on it in case he needed to take some control if it was needed, which was needed in the end.

Imagine what that 9 year old girl is going through as it wasn't exactly her fault

That's Arizona, no rules on guns. Every is like duhh there.

Why would you be teaching a 9 year old, serves him right. do you think everything will go smoothly when giving a killing machine to someone who probably don't know how to work a smartphone.

especially as the parents were there, what in the world were they thinking giving a gun to their child.

I feel bad for the shooting instructor but more for the little girl. Who reall expects a little girl to control a full automated gun. Her hands are small and not that strong, she is going to grow up knowing she killed a man. I couldn't live with that for the rest of my life also who the **** brings a 9yr old to a shooting range.

I mean he should of held the gun with her to help reduce recoil.