TSA wrote Ok so if a game is providing constant hours of fun, spending money on dlc, and addons only makes it better

Does it? Because Gamefreak have never made an addon or DLC for Pokemon, yet I still have way more fun with it than I think I've ever had with my Xbox 360 and PS4 combined

Katt wrote

Stonerzard wrote

Katt wrote I just want you to go and look at the market for csgo. Then realize that there is even more expensive stuff that people don't sell on the marketplace because the items are worth in the thousands.

Oh I do know all about the market on csgo, but the thing is - it isn't necesarry to play the game like it is on these sports titles. DOTA was going to be another game to mention but you can live without cosmetic changes

How many higher tier players do you see with no skins?

I had skins for all my heros so did most the players in my bracket. Only makes the game funner when you know you look badass killing everything.

Cabal wrote

Stonerzard wrote

Cabal wrote Only reason I bother buying the DLC's for destiny, and thus spending over 100 dollars on a game is because I really enjoy it. I just want to play more. Simple as that.

Another one that clearly hasn't read what I've written. There's more to a post than the subject, you know?

yea you're against the smaller transactions within games. I get that.

No I'm against games that you aren't free to play, but are still pay to win!

I mean Free-to-play games are generally pay-to-win. But when you pay to play, you shouldn't have to pay more to win!?

Stonerzard wrote

TSA wrote Ok so if a game is providing constant hours of fun, spending money on dlc, and addons only makes it better

Does it? Because Gamefreak have never made an addon or DLC for Pokemon, yet I still have way more fun with it than I think I've ever had with my Xbox 360 and PS4 combined

That's your personal opinion. And in mine, that game was fun until I turned 10 so to each their own

Stonerzard wrote I'm at a point where I just can't understand a lot of games on the market. Basically all sports games, FIFA, NHL, Madden, NBA, MLB, and even WWE and racing games... just have way too much DLC. I mean, I remember the good old days where you payed for the game once and that was it. Now, you have Ultimate Team on EA's 3, which is their only game mode that they focus on - and it's just to monetize. I personally prefer to play as myself (Like a virtual pro) and make a team with my friends and play others online. NHL 13 was perfect for this, absolutely perfect. Then I got next gen and it's gone? But Ultimate Team is still there...surprise surprise. I knew somebody who spent over 20 grand on FIFA 14 alone! I mean, think if that's one person making EA that kind of money then imagine how much they're actually making. I mean MLB the show money is just a shortcut, you can actually earn everything without paying, but Madden, FIFA and NHL? No way! They literally have packs that can only be bought with real money! Which is disgraceful, the Ultimate Team modes ARE very fun. But I prefered FIFA 09 UT. Where you couldn't spend real money, and you actually had to earn the packs and what not. Now there's coin trading for EA's games literally everywhere! Money for it, I just think that games that you have already paid for should not include microtransactions like these! Because Madden packs for sure make you almost need to buy them, I think that if they are going to keep these game modes, then they should restrict either the game or game mode to an 18. Seeing as buying packs is actually a form of gambling, and it does actually make people addicted to it, hence why they buy them, I guess! I do play Ultimate Team on Madden, because it's genuinely quite fun. But I am always at a major disadvantage compared to everyone else because I don't spend my real money on it. It takes me absolutely ages to get a decent team and packs are hardly worth it.


I'm pretty sure I worked out that FIFA Ultimate Team (On FIFA 13, anyway) is almost impossible to play without spending money, because by the time you have enough for a few packs you have no contracts left - so you either have to spend pack money on contracts constantly, and not buy any new players. Or buy the packs, and not have a complete playable team. Which really does suck! Anyone else want to see games like this start to transition out?

TSA wrote

Katt wrote

Stonerzard wrote

Katt wrote I just want you to go and look at the market for csgo. Then realize that there is even more expensive stuff that people don't sell on the marketplace because the items are worth in the thousands.

Oh I do know all about the market on csgo, but the thing is - it isn't necesarry to play the game like it is on these sports titles. DOTA was going to be another game to mention but you can live without cosmetic changes

How many higher tier players do you see with no skins?

I had skins for all my heros so did most the players in my bracket. Only makes the game funner when you know you look badass killing everything.

I don't play csgo, so I can't really talk about it much. I had it on the 360, but I've heard of the stupid prices that some items go for. But DOTA is practically the same, each hero has multiple skins, I've never purchased one. I only purchased one thing in my whole time of playing DOTA 2, and that was the compendium last year, which all money spent on compendiums went into the prize pool for the International rather than Gaben's wallet

Stonerzard wrote You don't. But that's their choice! I'd like to know one single FIFA/NHL/Madden player that is in Division 1 without spending a penny. There isn't one, because it's impossible. The game modes REQUIRE money. That's what I'm getting at.

I've never spend any money on FIFA 15 and I've been in Divison 1 before.

I understand where you are coming from though, I've met alot of people on Counter-Strike: Global Offensive who have multiple expensive skins. The last game I played I met a person who was Silver 1 (the lowest rank) and he had skins worth over 100 and I don't really understand why since he's new to the game although if he has that sort of money to spend then fair enough it's his choice.

What I gathered from your thread; I'm not 100 percent though.

Your rant seems to be mainly focused at the people that buy the micro-transaction. But the problem in
this community is that the developers just seem to only care about squeezing every penny out of the
consumers.

An amazing example of a game that is going to crash and burn over dlc crappery is [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
It funny because with seeing the dlc you would think that its a F2P, but thats not the case. thats all on top of 60 dollars.

I dont know if I missread your thread, oh well.

Stonerzard wrote

Cabal wrote

Stonerzard wrote

Cabal wrote Only reason I bother buying the DLC's for destiny, and thus spending over 100 dollars on a game is because I really enjoy it. I just want to play more. Simple as that.

Another one that clearly hasn't read what I've written. There's more to a post than the subject, you know?

yea you're against the smaller transactions within games. I get that.

No I'm against games that you aren't free to play, but are still pay to win!

I mean Free-to-play games are generally pay-to-win. But when you pay to play, you shouldn't have to pay more to win!?

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Just saying but you can manage to have fun on FUT without spending money. You can work for coins. Just because your not the best at a game your mad? Guarantee EA won't change a thing, also this should probably be in rants if it isn't.

I don't spend much money on games, I get them for Christmas and my birthday. But I get what you're saying.