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Fielding wrote Considering my first job was as a butcher, did it for two years, no. Been to many-a slaughter house as well, it really does not bother me in the slightest.

Did it bother you at the start, or did you just never care?
(about the animals getting killed like smashes to the floor?)

Probably like 90 of animal farms are not like whats shown in the video. The video probably covered the most gruesome farms and depicted it to make it sound like every farm does this and that is false.

Does it matter?
Sure it puts a damper on their whole 'Farm to fridge' universalism idea, but even if it is only 10 percent that is still thousands of farms which operate like this.

In 1970 there were over 900,000 factory farms in the US, in 1997 there were only 137,000.
The only way imaginable that this could happen, while increasing output, is for the farms to become more cramped and far more efficient.

Efficiency does not care for the animal's wellbeing.

FreeRunning wrote

Fielding wrote Considering my first job was as a butcher, did it for two years, no. Been to many-a slaughter house as well, it really does not bother me in the slightest.

Did it bother you at the start, or did you just never care?
(about the animals getting killed like smashes to the floor?)

Never has bothered me, never will. The smell was the worst part about the job, I wouldn't recommend going for pleasure. Fortunately, there will never be a shortage of butchers since humans will always inherently eat meat

Of course it matters. It frames the farms that are free-range. It makes the traditional farmers look like bad people, leaving them out of business. Sure, they might be labeling their meats or dairy as USDA certified or whatever organic certification is in your country but that still makes for a bad reputation for the farmers because there are those that have no idea what USDA is, what organic is, what free-ranging is, what traditional farming is, etc.

There's no reason to treat the animals like this I believe all these guys who work at these places need to be looked at most likey they are pieces of trash outside of there jobs

I had mixed emotions during this video, almost shed a tear and laughed a little bit

Even after watching this I still wouldn't turn into a vegetarian.

How I feel about the subject.

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Erza wrote There's no reason to treat the animals like this I believe all these guys who work at these places need to be looked at most likey they are pieces of trash outside of there jobs

And yet you are objectifying a woman in one of your recent posts... Would that not be considered trash?

What you said could be true, though. Getting a real view on who a person is, is to obvserve how they treat underlings.

Yeah that's pretty disgusting.
But have you seen Food Inc.?

im still gonna eat meat. i have no care about the way the are killed as long as i get my food.

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FreeRunning wrote

Fielding wrote Considering my first job was as a butcher, did it for two years, no. Been to many-a slaughter house as well, it really does not bother me in the slightest.

Did it bother you at the start, or did you just never care?
(about the animals getting killed like smashes to the floor?)

Probably like 90 of animal farms are not like whats shown in the video. The video probably covered the most gruesome farms and depicted it to make it sound like every farm does this and that is false.

Does it matter?
Sure it puts a damper on their whole 'Farm to fridge' universalism idea, but even if it is only 10 percent that is still thousands of farms which operate like this.

In 1970 there were over 900,000 factory farms in the US, in 1997 there were only 137,000.
The only way imaginable that this could happen, while increasing output, is for the farms to become more cramped and far more efficient.

Efficiency does not care for the animal's wellbeing.

Of course it matters. It frames the farms that are free-range. It makes the traditional farmers look like bad people, leaving them out of business. Sure, they might be labeling their meats or dairy as USDA certified or whatever organic certification is in your country but that still makes for a bad reputation for the farmers because there are those that have no idea what USDA is, what organic is, what free-ranging is, what traditional farming is, etc.

Except this is about factory farming.
If someone watches this and thinks 'Grrr.. all those free range farmers are so bad!' then they have enough problems already.