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I recently heard about a conspiracy that Courtney Love was involved in the murder of Kurt Cobain and it seems to be accurate from what ive been reading/watching. Im going to make this as short as possible and im also going to leave 2 videos below. Also if you want, watch the documentary on netflix titled "Soaked in Bleach"
The amount of heroin found in Kurts body was too high for him to even function, the amount in his body was 3x the limit of a deadly overdose and at the point he would not be able to move. Not even experienced heroin users would be able to function. How would someone on that much heroin be able to load a shotgun, hold the barrel to their mouth and pull the trigger? ALSO if Kurt really wanted to commit suicide why would he do it with a shotgun and not just let the heroin kill him?
There are no fingerprints found on the casing or the shotgun itself. Also the area in which the shell had landed does not match up to where the shotgun was aimed.
The writing on the final portion of the "suicide note" found in Kurts home matches the exact hand writing on a writing practice sheet found in Courtney Loves backpack. Also the note itself does NOT sound like a "suicide" and investigators have also agreed on this fact.
Also there is an interview with a man who goes by "el duce" I believe from another band at the time who said he was approached by Courtney. Courtney had offered this man 50,000 dollars to murder Kurt and make it seem like a suicide. El Duce also passed a lie detector test proving that he was not lying. El Duce was found dead a few days later after being hit by a train... mhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm
Also many family members, fans, and people who knew Kurt said that he was not suicidal. He did have depression and issues with drugs but never showed definite signs of harming himself. He went to rehab after Courtney had an intervention setup and the doctors at the rehab center said he was not showing signs of suicide.
Courtney and Kurt had planed on getting a divorce. If they had gotten a divorce Courtney would lose millions of album sales and she would only get half of whatever Kurt had. If she maybe had him murdered, her sales would not be affected negatively and could even possibly increase and she would receive EVERYTHING.. Money, the baby, the house all of it.
Ive gone on for quite some now and I actually want someone to read this so im going to end it here. If you dont wanna read ill leave some videos below to watch and also if you really want watch "Soaked in Bleach" on netflix.
The amount of heroin found in Kurts body was too high for him to even function, the amount in his body was 3x the limit of a deadly overdose and at the point he would not be able to move. Not even experienced heroin users would be able to function. How would someone on that much heroin be able to load a shotgun, hold the barrel to their mouth and pull the trigger? ALSO if Kurt really wanted to commit suicide why would he do it with a shotgun and not just let the heroin kill him?
There are no fingerprints found on the casing or the shotgun itself. Also the area in which the shell had landed does not match up to where the shotgun was aimed.
The writing on the final portion of the "suicide note" found in Kurts home matches the exact hand writing on a writing practice sheet found in Courtney Loves backpack. Also the note itself does NOT sound like a "suicide" and investigators have also agreed on this fact.
Also there is an interview with a man who goes by "el duce" I believe from another band at the time who said he was approached by Courtney. Courtney had offered this man 50,000 dollars to murder Kurt and make it seem like a suicide. El Duce also passed a lie detector test proving that he was not lying. El Duce was found dead a few days later after being hit by a train... mhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm
Also many family members, fans, and people who knew Kurt said that he was not suicidal. He did have depression and issues with drugs but never showed definite signs of harming himself. He went to rehab after Courtney had an intervention setup and the doctors at the rehab center said he was not showing signs of suicide.
Courtney and Kurt had planed on getting a divorce. If they had gotten a divorce Courtney would lose millions of album sales and she would only get half of whatever Kurt had. If she maybe had him murdered, her sales would not be affected negatively and could even possibly increase and she would receive EVERYTHING.. Money, the baby, the house all of it.
Ive gone on for quite some now and I actually want someone to read this so im going to end it here. If you dont wanna read ill leave some videos below to watch and also if you really want watch "Soaked in Bleach" on netflix.
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I am not gonna really look into it much but just go off what you posted. Before I start, again I don't know either way and am not leaning to either side.
"He did have depression and issues with drugs but never showed definite signs of harming himself"
yea, a lot of people who kill themselves don't self harm or show signs. Having depressions and issues with drugs does give a pretty high chance of suicide. I just think the argument saying he didn't show signs of suicide but that he did have depression and a drug problem is a bit contradictory.
"El Duce also passed a lie detector test proving that he was not lying"
yea there is a reason these are not used as evidence in court. They are not a lie detector, they just read change in heart beat/blood pressure which may or may not be linked to the person lying.
the guy getting hit by the train is pretty suspect but surely the train operator would have seen if it was foul play. maybe not I don't know.
But, why would she overdose someone with heroin (who was a known addict) and then shoot him in the head. seems counter productive if you ask me. If he hadn't initially died from the overdose surely the next logical thing would be to inject more not shoot him in the head. But that goes both ways, how could someone with such a high dose kill them-self.
He probably had a really high tollerance and could function. Maybe it was towards the end of the comedown and he got really depressed and just decided to do it.
"He did have depression and issues with drugs but never showed definite signs of harming himself"
yea, a lot of people who kill themselves don't self harm or show signs. Having depressions and issues with drugs does give a pretty high chance of suicide. I just think the argument saying he didn't show signs of suicide but that he did have depression and a drug problem is a bit contradictory.
"El Duce also passed a lie detector test proving that he was not lying"
yea there is a reason these are not used as evidence in court. They are not a lie detector, they just read change in heart beat/blood pressure which may or may not be linked to the person lying.
the guy getting hit by the train is pretty suspect but surely the train operator would have seen if it was foul play. maybe not I don't know.
But, why would she overdose someone with heroin (who was a known addict) and then shoot him in the head. seems counter productive if you ask me. If he hadn't initially died from the overdose surely the next logical thing would be to inject more not shoot him in the head. But that goes both ways, how could someone with such a high dose kill them-self.
He probably had a really high tollerance and could function. Maybe it was towards the end of the comedown and he got really depressed and just decided to do it.
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kljasdkagfaskfasfdoh wrote I am not gonna really look into it much but just go off what you posted. Before I start, again I don't know either way and am not leaning to either side.
"He did have depression and issues with drugs but never showed definite signs of harming himself"
yea, a lot of people who kill themselves don't self harm or show signs. Having depressions and issues with drugs does give a pretty high chance of suicide. I just think the argument saying he didn't show signs of suicide but that he did have depression and a drug problem is a bit contradictory.
"El Duce also passed a lie detector test proving that he was not lying"
yea there is a reason these are not used as evidence in court. They are not a lie detector, they just read change in heart beat/blood pressure which may or may not be linked to the person lying.
the guy getting hit by the train is pretty suspect but surely the train operator would have seen if it was foul play. maybe not I don't know.
But, why would she overdose someone with heroin (who was a known addict) and then shoot him in the head. seems counter productive if you ask me. If he hadn't initially died from the overdose surely the next logical thing would be to inject more not shoot him in the head. But that goes both ways, how could someone with such a high dose kill them-self.
He probably had a really high tollerance and could function. Maybe it was towards the end of the comedown and he got really depressed and just decided to do it.
Those are honestly probably the two weakest points, I include because they are still information people need to know. I dont use the interview with el duce as concrete evidence but it is suspicious still. He was in a car past out when he was hit. The amount of heroin in his body is enough to kill someone like Kurt who has such a low tolerance to the drug and why would he inject himself with that much and also HOW would he inject himself with that much?
explain to me the handwriting will you?
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Qwel wrotekljasdkagfaskfasfdoh wrote I am not gonna really look into it much but just go off what you posted. Before I start, again I don't know either way and am not leaning to either side.
"He did have depression and issues with drugs but never showed definite signs of harming himself"
yea, a lot of people who kill themselves don't self harm or show signs. Having depressions and issues with drugs does give a pretty high chance of suicide. I just think the argument saying he didn't show signs of suicide but that he did have depression and a drug problem is a bit contradictory.
"El Duce also passed a lie detector test proving that he was not lying"
yea there is a reason these are not used as evidence in court. They are not a lie detector, they just read change in heart beat/blood pressure which may or may not be linked to the person lying.
the guy getting hit by the train is pretty suspect but surely the train operator would have seen if it was foul play. maybe not I don't know.
But, why would she overdose someone with heroin (who was a known addict) and then shoot him in the head. seems counter productive if you ask me. If he hadn't initially died from the overdose surely the next logical thing would be to inject more not shoot him in the head. But that goes both ways, how could someone with such a high dose kill them-self.
He probably had a really high tollerance and could function. Maybe it was towards the end of the comedown and he got really depressed and just decided to do it.
Those are honestly probably the two weakest points, I include because they are still information people need to know. I dont use the interview with el duce as concrete evidence but it is suspicious still. He was in a car past out when he was hit. The amount of heroin in his body is enough to kill someone like Kurt who has such a low tolerance to the drug and why would he inject himself with that much and also HOW would he inject himself with that much?
explain to me the handwriting will you?
Literally at the top I said I am not leaning either way and really I could care less how he died. I just tried to rid your argument of useless points. And do we know if kurt had a low tolerance? Also I don't think the actual amount of heroin in his blood stream was actually ever officially released. Pretty easy to inject yourself with that much as well. Bigger syringe, multiple doses, high concentration.
And the question why would he do it? Maybe he wanted a really strong high when he pulled the trigger. OD'ing isn't pleasant. Maybe someone did it to him. I don't know, I am just trying to get rid of useless points in your argument and have a little discussion.
The hand writing, I didn't say anything about that cause that is a good point, and the passed out in car is also a good point now that I know that but maybe he just got really smashed that night (pun intended) and was just a coincidence he died after saying what he did.
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Of course he was murdered, the facts are all there in those videos posted.
Pink named guy with random letters those points are weak and poorly developed on, the opposing points severely outweigh yours and beat them.
The private investigator hired still to this day believes he was murdered and the wifes behaviour around the topic is so obvious of guilt. 3rd party members and intelligence with external information were either murdered or destroyed. A cover up - like most celebrity deaths.
Pink named guy with random letters those points are weak and poorly developed on, the opposing points severely outweigh yours and beat them.
The private investigator hired still to this day believes he was murdered and the wifes behaviour around the topic is so obvious of guilt. 3rd party members and intelligence with external information were either murdered or destroyed. A cover up - like most celebrity deaths.
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-Kendrick wrote Of course he was murdered, the facts are all there in those videos posted.
Pink named guy with random letters those points are weak and poorly developed on, the opposing points severely outweigh yours and beat them.
The private investigator hired still to this day believes he was murdered and the wifes behaviour around the topic is so obvious of guilt. 3rd party members and intelligence with external information were either murdered or destroyed. A cover up - like most celebrity deaths.
Do people just ignore what I type out? He probably was murdered but I will type it out again. Some of the points for the argument don't make a whole lot of sense. I really only touched on the points I thought useless and I said I didn't look into any of it, just literally what he typed and I already knew on the matter which was little.
I mean the points aren't useless but they were not solid evidence. Mainly the depression part and not being suicidal. One of my good friends didn't seem depressed or suicidal (to anyone, including his girl friend and family), didn't stop him from jumping though.
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There is to many facts to prove that he was murdered, but he was gonna die anyways from the heroin. It sucks that had to happen to him, and I hope we find out the true story behind it.
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This is one of the few, if any, conspiracies that I believe shouldn't be a conspiracy because they got this wrong. Back then especially, cops would assume a suicide. He was a rock star, seemed suicidal by the media and fans, and a junkie so the cops didn't question anything at the time.
Courtney Love could've easily became a suspect if the Seattle police weren't lazy and took shortcuts handling the scene. I recently watched Soak in Bleach as well and it just further proved my belief Cobain was murdered. It's obvious in the movie, the paramedic and PI believed things were fishy. The PI suspected Courtney Love of foul play even before the body was found.
It's quite sad, he was in his prime and could've only gotten better with time. Courtney Love got all his money, profited off of the band's success after Cobain died. Nirvana turned out to be exactly what Cobain tried to prevent, a band in the spotlight profiting off it.
Courtney Love could've easily became a suspect if the Seattle police weren't lazy and took shortcuts handling the scene. I recently watched Soak in Bleach as well and it just further proved my belief Cobain was murdered. It's obvious in the movie, the paramedic and PI believed things were fishy. The PI suspected Courtney Love of foul play even before the body was found.
It's quite sad, he was in his prime and could've only gotten better with time. Courtney Love got all his money, profited off of the band's success after Cobain died. Nirvana turned out to be exactly what Cobain tried to prevent, a band in the spotlight profiting off it.
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