Its scary to think trump has a chance to be the president.

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Also the mere fact that you said you would vote for him because he has NO political experience is extremely ignorant. I also sense a bit of hypocrisy in your statement about being "all-talk no action" because that's literally how he is. He says he'll make America "great" again but this man doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, he just wants more power, and he'll step on whoever to get to it.

Politicians are no good. They are all bought out by special interest and lobbyists.

I'm not sure tbh.
I may/may not vote

Cavalry wrote

Meowers wrote Let's put it this way, he's called "racist". Why is he called racist, because he wants to follow our current laws on immigration?

The US does allow Muslims to enter the country though. The US even allows refugees to enter the country, they just have to be vetted.
Trump doesn't want any Muslims or refugees to enter the country, so no, he doesn't want to follow the current laws.

He's not a racist, he's just a bigot who thinks that vilifying an entire religion is going to help the situation and would rather sacrifice freedom for security.
Didn't George Washington himself have something to say about that?

He's called an idiot, all because of the way he talks. The sad thing is that if you could describe a friend or family member, they talk more like Donald Trump rather than Cruz or Hillary.

He's not called an idiot because of the way that he talks, he's called an idiot because of the things that he says.
But yes, a man who says that he 'likes Ted Cruz', while also saying that 'nobody likes Ted Cruz', a man who says that he 'loves Iowa', while also saying that 'Iowa is stupid', a man who says that Hillary Clinton was the 'worst secretary of state in history', while also saying that she 'does a good job' should not be called an idiot.

Trump is constantly picked out of all of the candidates by the media like CNN and Fox, and it has been like this since the beginning of the debates.

I agree, American media is corrosive and biased, nobody should listen to it.

People complain about how he distributes his money, why don't you look back in the past decade and see what each of the candidates have done to help this country, and you'll notice Trump has done the most.

What does this even mean? How has Trump helped the country? By building up his business and appearing on reality TV?
Bernie Sanders has been on the Senate Budget Committee, even being the chairman for committee's like Veteran's affairs, a ranking member on committee's to do with natural resources, education, and energy.

More Bernie fanboys who grouped up from their local community college and put his stickers on their civic's bumper. Bernie's a confused, unrealistic, old man who has no right to be even close to the white house.

Bernie is only 5 years older than Trump. So age really doesn't matter here, unless you're saying that one year after leaving office, Trump will be too old to think rationally.
And well, he does have the right, I mean, US citizen and all...

At least Trump knows the one section of government that the United States needs the most, economics. He has built a successful business (neglecting a couple of hotels) that have made him a billionaire, meaning that he is not trying to run for president for the power or wealth, but because he actually wants to fix our countries problems.

I'm bored of telling people that Trump is stupid with money, so I'll just go straight to the root of this argument which makes no sense.
Just because he has a lot of money and sincerely wants to help the country doesn't mean that he will be good at doing it.

iCamp wrote It's pretty simple. We either have a country or we don't have a country. I don't know how anyone can dispute an argument about illegal immigrants. They are illegal. Clear cut, plain and simple. If you want to become legal and pay your taxes like the rest of the citizens, then fine. America was founded by immigrants. However, if you are here ILLEGALLY and not a citizen, you shouldn't be allowed to stay.

I didn't say illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay.
I said Trump was stupid for suggesting that a wall should be built to keep them out, especially with his caveat that they are actually being sent by the Mexican government.
Mexico is your ally, you kind of need them to like you, Trump is doing a good job of ruining that.

ISIS is slaughtering thousands and thousands of people and because one United States politician(?) says that we should go after their families, everyone cries foul. Its ridiculous, it really is.

No, it's not ridiculous. This is vicarious punishment. This is no different to the US authorities killing the family members of every person on the FBI's most wanted list in an attempt to make them stop killing.
It makes you the terrorist and people in Syria will not look at their dead family members who were just killed in an airstrike and blame ISIS, they will blame the US. How do I know this? Because it's already happening and they already do. Worldwide support for Islamic terrorism and hatred of the US is increasing rapidly, it has been since the start of the war on terror and it still is today.

Trump is absolutely right when he says (in regards to the San Bernadino shootings) "The families know what's going on. They see the guns and ammo laying around, yet they never say anything." Does it make it right to go after terrorist's families? Absolutely not. But hey, nobody was complaining when the United States Navy Seals took out Bin Laden, along with multiple family members.

I was. Bin Laden should have been brought in alive.
And it's interesting that you bring up the San Bernardino shooters considering they were both US citizens.
If Trump is in favor of killing ISIS member's families I wonder if he would have been in favor of killing theirs on American soil.

Someone who values human life so little should not be president of the most powerful country on the planet.

The part about muslims you are correct on, i don't think he was sincere in saying that, or at least realized how unjustifiable it was after he said it. The part about helping our country; Trump has created somewhere between 25-30,000 jobs, and a business that generates around $9 billion annually. His economic plan for the country is also strong compared to others', which includes a one time 10% of profit tax to overseas American companies.

Cavalry wrote

Meowers wrote Let's put it this way, he's called "racist". Why is he called racist, because he wants to follow our current laws on immigration?

The US does allow Muslims to enter the country though. The US even allows refugees to enter the country, they just have to be vetted.
Trump doesn't want any Muslims or refugees to enter the country, so no, he doesn't want to follow the current laws.

He's not a racist, he's just a bigot who thinks that vilifying an entire religion is going to help the situation and would rather sacrifice freedom for security.
Didn't George Washington himself have something to say about that?

He's called an idiot, all because of the way he talks. The sad thing is that if you could describe a friend or family member, they talk more like Donald Trump rather than Cruz or Hillary.

He's not called an idiot because of the way that he talks, he's called an idiot because of the things that he says.
But yes, a man who says that he 'likes Ted Cruz', while also saying that 'nobody likes Ted Cruz', a man who says that he 'loves Iowa', while also saying that 'Iowa is stupid', a man who says that Hillary Clinton was the 'worst secretary of state in history', while also saying that she 'does a good job' should not be called an idiot.

Trump is constantly picked out of all of the candidates by the media like CNN and Fox, and it has been like this since the beginning of the debates.

I agree, American media is corrosive and biased, nobody should listen to it.

People complain about how he distributes his money, why don't you look back in the past decade and see what each of the candidates have done to help this country, and you'll notice Trump has done the most.

What does this even mean? How has Trump helped the country? By building up his business and appearing on reality TV?
Bernie Sanders has been on the Senate Budget Committee, even being the chairman for committee's like Veteran's affairs, a ranking member on committee's to do with natural resources, education, and energy.

More Bernie fanboys who grouped up from their local community college and put his stickers on their civic's bumper. Bernie's a confused, unrealistic, old man who has no right to be even close to the white house.

Bernie is only 5 years older than Trump. So age really doesn't matter here, unless you're saying that one year after leaving office, Trump will be too old to think rationally.
And well, he does have the right, I mean, US citizen and all...

At least Trump knows the one section of government that the United States needs the most, economics. He has built a successful business (neglecting a couple of hotels) that have made him a billionaire, meaning that he is not trying to run for president for the power or wealth, but because he actually wants to fix our countries problems.

I'm bored of telling people that Trump is stupid with money, so I'll just go straight to the root of this argument which makes no sense.
Just because he has a lot of money and sincerely wants to help the country doesn't mean that he will be good at doing it.

iCamp wrote It's pretty simple. We either have a country or we don't have a country. I don't know how anyone can dispute an argument about illegal immigrants. They are illegal. Clear cut, plain and simple. If you want to become legal and pay your taxes like the rest of the citizens, then fine. America was founded by immigrants. However, if you are here ILLEGALLY and not a citizen, you shouldn't be allowed to stay.

I didn't say illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay.
I said Trump was stupid for suggesting that a wall should be built to keep them out, especially with his caveat that they are actually being sent by the Mexican government.
Mexico is your ally, you kind of need them to like you, Trump is doing a good job of ruining that.

ISIS is slaughtering thousands and thousands of people and because one United States politician(?) says that we should go after their families, everyone cries foul. Its ridiculous, it really is.

No, it's not ridiculous. This is vicarious punishment. This is no different to the US authorities killing the family members of every person on the FBI's most wanted list in an attempt to make them stop killing.
It makes you the terrorist and people in Syria will not look at their dead family members who were just killed in an airstrike and blame ISIS, they will blame the US. How do I know this? Because it's already happening and they already do. Worldwide support for Islamic terrorism and hatred of the US is increasing rapidly, it has been since the start of the war on terror and it still is today.

Trump is absolutely right when he says (in regards to the San Bernadino shootings) "The families know what's going on. They see the guns and ammo laying around, yet they never say anything." Does it make it right to go after terrorist's families? Absolutely not. But hey, nobody was complaining when the United States Navy Seals took out Bin Laden, along with multiple family members.

I was. Bin Laden should have been brought in alive.
And it's interesting that you bring up the San Bernardino shooters considering they were both US citizens.
If Trump is in favor of killing ISIS member's families I wonder if he would have been in favor of killing theirs on American soil.

Someone who values human life so little should not be president of the most powerful country on the planet.

Well when you have 4.5 billion dollars, i think you're allowed to be "stupid with money". That's such a subjective topic I don't even want to get started. Your relatives can tell you that you're stupid with money because you decide to buy a smart phone for $800 rather than a tracfone. When your income is high, your spending is high aswell. He invests his money by putting his name on hotels and casino resorts, I don't see how that's being stupid with money? People pay him to use his name on their products, and he agrees like a person with common sense would do..

If I could vote, it would most certainly be for the Bern. But honestly, it's going to be Hillary vs Trump...

They are both idiots. Welcome to America.

Adolfin wrote If I could vote, it would most certainly be for the Bern. But honestly, it's going to be Hillary vs Trump...

They are both idiots. Welcome to America.

I'm not voting in this election, however, I would really like to know why you would vote for Bernie Sanders, even though he will not be the nominee.

His tax plan is absolutely ridiculous and anyone that is successful and makes somewhat good money will be taxed hard. He is also in favor of free college, free healthcare, as well as $15/hr minimum wage, which is just ridiculous.

iCamp wrote

Adolfin wrote If I could vote, it would most certainly be for the Bern. But honestly, it's going to be Hillary vs Trump...

They are both idiots. Welcome to America.

I'm not voting in this election, however, I would really like to know why you would vote for Bernie Sanders, even though he will not be the nominee.

His tax plan is absolutely ridiculous and anyone that is successful and makes somewhat good money will be taxed hard. He is also in favor of free college, free healthcare, as well as $15/hr minimum wage, which is just ridiculous.

The reason he will tax them is because THEY MAKE MORE MONEY. He is smart, the more you make, I think the more you need to pay taxes. Like a set number. So, like everyone says, it really doesn't matter on the minimum wage, as everything fluctuates according to minimum wage ($15 Minimum wage = higher everything according to what minimum wage is). So, tell me, healthcare isn't good? Having that free wouldn't help you, your family, friends? Same with free college. Isn't free college good?

Adolfin wrote

iCamp wrote

Adolfin wrote If I could vote, it would most certainly be for the Bern. But honestly, it's going to be Hillary vs Trump...

They are both idiots. Welcome to America.

I'm not voting in this election, however, I would really like to know why you would vote for Bernie Sanders, even though he will not be the nominee.

His tax plan is absolutely ridiculous and anyone that is successful and makes somewhat good money will be taxed hard. He is also in favor of free college, free healthcare, as well as $15/hr minimum wage, which is just ridiculous.

The reason he will tax them is because THEY MAKE MORE MONEY. He is smart, the more you make, I think the more you need to pay taxes. Like a set number. So, like everyone says, it really doesn't matter on the minimum wage, as everything fluctuates according to minimum wage ($15 Minimum wage = higher everything according to what minimum wage is). So, tell me, healthcare isn't good? Having that free wouldn't help you, your family, friends? Same with free college. Isn't free college good?

Why should people have to pay more in taxes just because they worked harder and are more successful? A person making one million per year should pay no more than the person that is make $75k per year. Why should someone who is clearly successful be penalized and have to pay more?

Healthcare is good, college is good, just not for free. Who would be paying for all of this? You do realize providing free healthcare and free college would cost trillions of dollars, right?

My main problem with Sanders is that he goes by the motto "If you have one, I should have one," which is totally false. Not everyone on this planet should/is equal. The people that work the hardest should make the most, and the people that do the least amount of work should have the least.