CaliforniaDream wrote Here is my simple response. Don't get pregnant if you don't want a baby. Its as simple as that. Some people need to grow TF up. Its so simple unless your a degenerate i don't know how this doesn't make sense.

You say it is so simple, but it isn't. Unplanned pregnancies are a thing. People that don't want to a baby try not to get pregnant. There is no guarantee it won't happen though. How would one getting pregnant when they didn't plan on it make them a degenerate?

There are plenty of ugly things which serve good purposes.
War can serve a good purpose, but people are still blown up, shot, and torn to pieces.
Would you say that wars shouldn't be fought, even if they are morally justifiable, because they are ugly?

Wars shouldn't be fought because they're not necessary. America has spent more on funding the war than what it could ever hope to gain from it. USA spent over $500 billion last year alone on military funding. Imagine if that money was spent on helping starving children or used to fund medical research.

Not to mention, a UAV can fight better than any human so there's no need to have people fighting wars. Except then there would be too high of a population, no news, no charities, no casualties and life would be rather boring. People just use a war as an excuse to kill other humans and justify their actions and sadly it makes life interesting, as disappointing as it is for me to say that.

You have to justify the contention that a fetus is a human being. Us pro-choicers aren't going to be convinced by arguments like, 'You're killing unborn babies and killing grown humans is wrong so killing an unborn child is wrong too.'
It simply doesn't affect us.

Human being - any individual of the genus Homo, especially a member of the species Homo sapiens.

Of course the fetus is a human being. Being clinically dead is when your heart and brain stops working and you stop breathing. A six month old un-born child has a beating heart and and it's brain is working. The mother also supplies its body with oxygen. By aborting it, you shut these organs down, thus killing the child.

Also tax payer's money also goes towards paying for abortions which is completely wrong since lots of people disagree with it.

What's your opinion on miscarriages then? Surely the baby wasn't born so it's not that big of a deal? I've seen couples have a miscarriage and never try for another child because the event was so traumatising. I honestly think that you guys are more against abortion because of Trump than because of your moral rights.

We have to have boundaries and draw the line somewhere, no matter even if you don't have a religion because we're human beings and everyone has the right to life.

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OMP wrote I'm assuming none of you have ever seen an actual abortion procedure. I remember awhile back in Europe, a woman had an abortion done and the child lived for an hour after they had sliced him to pieces. The doctors were in total control and had the ability to save this baby's life. Granted, that defeats the entire (wasteful) purpose of an abortion, but they could have found the child a new family. I support abortion to an extent. My extent being rape, incest, etc. If a woman is going to open her legs to someone with consent, she should not have the right to destroy that child. It is sickening and truly a horrible thing to do. That child should be guaranteed its life. I want everyone on this thread who viciously supports abortion to check out some videos of the actual procedure and tell me that this is an okay thing to do. Chopping up an adult human-being is not okay, so why should it be okay chop up an unborn child? Abortion is not a valid method of birth-control.

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As stated earlier, I do support abortion to an extent, but a very limited one. I am not here to argue with anyone, just to voice my opinion. Don't waste my time and don't waste yours.

It's an ugly procedure, yes, but it's an ugly world. It's not going to be a nice procedure, there isn't some energy ray which they can point at the fetus and just puff it out of existence in a blaze of rainbows.

Of course it's going to look horrific, but that's not a reason to be against it.

There are plenty of ugly things which serve good purposes.
War can serve a good purpose, but people are still blown up, shot, and torn to pieces.
Would you say that wars shouldn't be fought, even if they are morally justifiable, because they are ugly?

You have to justify the contention that a fetus is a human being. Us pro-choicers aren't going to be convinced by arguments like, 'You're killing unborn babies and killing grown humans is wrong so killing an unborn child is wrong too.'
It simply doesn't affect us.

There are plenty of ugly things which serve good purposes.
War can serve a good purpose, but people are still blown up, shot, and torn to pieces.
Would you say that wars shouldn't be fought, even if they are morally justifiable, because they are ugly?

Wars shouldn't be fought because they're not necessary. America has spent more on funding the war than what it could ever hope to gain from it. USA spent over $500 billion last year alone on military funding. Imagine if that money was spent on helping starving children or used to fund medical research.

Not to mention, a UAV can fight better than any human so there's no need to have people fighting wars. Except then there would be too high of a population, no news, no charities, no casualties and life would be rather boring. People just use a war as an excuse to kill other humans and justify their actions and sadly it makes life interesting, as disappointing as it is for me to say that.

You have to justify the contention that a fetus is a human being. Us pro-choicers aren't going to be convinced by arguments like, 'You're killing unborn babies and killing grown humans is wrong so killing an unborn child is wrong too.'
It simply doesn't affect us.

Human being - any individual of the genus Homo, especially a member of the species Homo sapiens.

Of course the fetus is a human being. Being clinically dead is when your heart and brain stops working and you stop breathing. A six month old un-born child has a beating heart and and it's brain is working. The mother also supplies its body with oxygen. By aborting it, you shut these organs down, thus killing the child.

Also tax payer's money also goes towards paying for abortions which is completely wrong since lots of people disagree with it.

What's your opinion on miscarriages then? Surely the baby wasn't born so it's not that big of a deal? I've seen couples have a miscarriage and never try for another child because the event was so traumatising. I honestly think that you guys are more against abortion because of Trump than because of your moral rights.

We have to have boundaries and draw the line somewhere, no matter even if you don't have a religion because we're human beings and everyone has the right to life.

I said the war should be justified, like world war 2. Most modern wars are not justifiable.

A miscarriage is more horrific than an abortion because the parents are being robbed of the possibility of having a baby when they want one. If they're having an abortion then they don't want one so it isn't horrific.

92% of abortions take place before 13 weeks, at 13 weeks I don't consider that a human. Just as I don't consider someone after they have died a human. They are nothing. Their former is body is human but they aren't any more. By your logic it should be illegal to bury a body because it's still a human being. An unborn fetus at 13 weeks doesn't think or feel, it is the size of a pea pod and I don't recognise it as a human.

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Leds wrote Women shouldn't be allowed to have an abortion. But do I support Trump? Hell no.

A women shouldn't be allowed to make a choice on her own body?

pft.

Too bad it's not her body that's getting forcibly removed. It's another human's. Lost potential which is very unfortunate. Imagine, of the millions of babies aborted, which one could have cured cancer. Too bad we'll never know.

pft.

None, because if a mother doesn't want to take care of their children, likes are that that child will have a terrible childhood with that being a teenage mother or a partying, drug abusing mother. Trust me, the kid with probably turn emo by 13.