002 wrote

LikeCrazy wrote You can justify racism all you want but it doesn't change my mind or half the worlds opinion. Your points are just generalising nothingness considering in the same speeches he talked about how all mexicans are in gangs/rapists etc, and banning ALL muslims from being in the US. But he's not a racist though? That's just 2 examples of many. I live in Ireland and there is news stories of his constant racism amongst other things on a daily basis, as well as the people supporting him being racist at numerous rallies.

Honestly it's embarrassing that people support this guy and attempt to justify this sort of behaviour.

It's not justifying racism as there is none here, it's facts and preserving a country going down the hole. You say he says all Mexicans are bad, yet in his words he says "I'm sure some are good people"? Get your facts straight. On top of that, just as McGregor said, Trump wants people to come here LEGALLY. Seriously bud, look into stuff before you start spewing this crap.

What is embarrassing is the people like you just look at mainstream media and believe it without actually looking into it.

Ok whatever, its my opinion and it hasn't became a worldwide known thing for no apparent reason. I didn't come on here for an argument I came to voice my opinion, but this is the internet and everyone has to attack you. You are so delusional and over the top rude its untrue, and you can't accept anyone elses views other than your own. I came to voice what I think in an opinion thread and you personally attack me with insults. Ridiculous.

Lavish wrote

002 wrote Why not build a wall? It (is supposed to) keep the illegals out that take tax payer dollars without paying taxes, and take jobs. Comments about Muslims? Because there was a lot of talk about bringing refugees here which is a SERIOUS problem for national security, but that doesn't even shy to the fact we'd have to pay for them. Comments about other countries? Like what? I think every president and every presidential hopeful makes comments about other countries. If you think facts are racist, then sure, he's racist lol.

Undocumented immigrants pay federal income taxes just like every other American.

We've let in more than 115,000 refugees since the start of the Iraq war without problems.
Our screening process has proven just fine.

Really? Tell me again how illegals do legal things. Also tell me how we have no problems yet EVERYTHING crashed in 2009, and the jobs market is still non existent.

LikeCrazy wrote

002 wrote

LikeCrazy wrote You can justify racism all you want but it doesn't change my mind or half the worlds opinion. Your points are just generalising nothingness considering in the same speeches he talked about how all mexicans are in gangs/rapists etc, and banning ALL muslims from being in the US. But he's not a racist though? That's just 2 examples of many. I live in Ireland and there is news stories of his constant racism amongst other things on a daily basis, as well as the people supporting him being racist at numerous rallies.

Honestly it's embarrassing that people support this guy and attempt to justify this sort of behaviour.

It's not justifying racism as there is none here, it's facts and preserving a country going down the hole. You say he says all Mexicans are bad, yet in his words he says "I'm sure some are good people"? Get your facts straight. On top of that, just as McGregor said, Trump wants people to come here LEGALLY. Seriously bud, look into stuff before you start spewing this crap.

What is embarrassing is the people like you just look at mainstream media and believe it without actually looking into it.

Ok whatever, its my opinion and it hasn't became a worldwide known thing for no apparent reason. I didn't come on here for an argument I came to voice my opinion, but this is the internet and everyone has to attack you. You are so delusional and over the top rude its untrue, and you can't accept anyone elses views other than your own. I came to voice what I think in an opinion thread and you personally attack me with insults. Ridiculous.

If education is rude, then I guess you could call it that. When your opinion decides the fate of a country, I wish everyone could be educated and would take the time to look up facts instead of taking what the media says at face value.

I proudly work for Donald J Trump Inc (his campaign) and will continue to support him.

He is our Ronald Reagan of this generation.

Most people do not like him because the Media does not like him.

He is the most qualified candidate in the eyes of our founding fathers. A person who has no influence on the government but has the power and knowledge to lead the country on the path forward. The leftist will keep pushing the country back years and years while conservatives and right minded voters and elected officials will push this country to a new place in the world that we have never seen before.

#MAGA

002 wrote

Lavish wrote

002 wrote Why not build a wall? It (is supposed to) keep the illegals out that take tax payer dollars without paying taxes, and take jobs. Comments about Muslims? Because there was a lot of talk about bringing refugees here which is a SERIOUS problem for national security, but that doesn't even shy to the fact we'd have to pay for them. Comments about other countries? Like what? I think every president and every presidential hopeful makes comments about other countries. If you think facts are racist, then sure, he's racist lol.

Undocumented immigrants pay federal income taxes just like every other American.

We've let in more than 115,000 refugees since the start of the Iraq war without problems.
Our screening process has proven just fine.

Really? Tell me again how illegals do legal things. Also tell me how we have no problems yet EVERYTHING crashed in 2009, and the jobs market is still non existent.

Undocumented immigrants contribute more than $11.8 billion in state and local income taxes each year.

The crash in 2009 had literally NOTHING, and i mean NOTHING to do with immigrants. Bankers were giving out loans to people they knew weren't qualified and that caused a real estate bubble.

Lavish wrote

002 wrote

Lavish wrote

002 wrote Why not build a wall? It (is supposed to) keep the illegals out that take tax payer dollars without paying taxes, and take jobs. Comments about Muslims? Because there was a lot of talk about bringing refugees here which is a SERIOUS problem for national security, but that doesn't even shy to the fact we'd have to pay for them. Comments about other countries? Like what? I think every president and every presidential hopeful makes comments about other countries. If you think facts are racist, then sure, he's racist lol.

Undocumented immigrants pay federal income taxes just like every other American.

We've let in more than 115,000 refugees since the start of the Iraq war without problems.
Our screening process has proven just fine.

Really? Tell me again how illegals do legal things. Also tell me how we have no problems yet EVERYTHING crashed in 2009, and the jobs market is still non existent.

Undocumented immigrants contribute more than $11.8 billion in state and local income taxes each year.

The crash in 2009 had literally NOTHING, and i mean NOTHING to do with immigrants. Bankers were giving out loans to people they knew weren't qualified and that caused a real estate bubble.

Hmmm, if they're undocumented, how do we get documents of how much they spend in taxes? I wander how that works. There are (an estimated) 11.4 million undocumented immigrants. That means each immigrant supposedly pays 1035 annually. The rest of the U.S. pays 3.18 trillion in taxes. There are almost 319 million people in the U.S. which means each person pays roughly 9,968 annually. That's a STRONG difference.

Immigrants had a lot to do with the '09 crash. Why where people getting these loans that they weren't qualified to get? Because illegals jump across the border to do middle class work which means less work for the average American, which means bankruptcy, and the crash in 2009.

002 wrote

Lavish wrote

002 wrote

Lavish wrote

002 wrote Why not build a wall? It (is supposed to) keep the illegals out that take tax payer dollars without paying taxes, and take jobs. Comments about Muslims? Because there was a lot of talk about bringing refugees here which is a SERIOUS problem for national security, but that doesn't even shy to the fact we'd have to pay for them. Comments about other countries? Like what? I think every president and every presidential hopeful makes comments about other countries. If you think facts are racist, then sure, he's racist lol.

Undocumented immigrants pay federal income taxes just like every other American.

We've let in more than 115,000 refugees since the start of the Iraq war without problems.
Our screening process has proven just fine.

Really? Tell me again how illegals do legal things. Also tell me how we have no problems yet EVERYTHING crashed in 2009, and the jobs market is still non existent.

Undocumented immigrants contribute more than $11.8 billion in state and local income taxes each year.

The crash in 2009 had literally NOTHING, and i mean NOTHING to do with immigrants. Bankers were giving out loans to people they knew weren't qualified and that caused a real estate bubble.

Hmmm, if they're undocumented, how do we get documents of how much they spend in taxes? I wander how that works. There are (an estimated) 11.4 million undocumented immigrants. That means each immigrant supposedly pays 1035 annually. The rest of the U.S. pays 3.18 trillion in taxes. There are almost 319 million people in the U.S. which means each person pays roughly 9,968 annually. That's a STRONG difference.

Immigrants had a lot to do with the '09 crash. Why where people getting these loans that they weren't qualified to get? Because illegals jump across the border to do middle class work which means less work for the average American, which means bankruptcy, and the crash in 2009.

Federal income tax is taken out of your paycheck, that's how.

Immigrants had literally nothing to do with the '09 crash. Nada. Nil. Zero. Ziltch.
The banks were giving out loans to people who weren't qualified because they were getting virtually free money from the government at the time. The government was giving the banks money at such a low interest rate that they were giving out loans left and right.

Illegals nor the middle class were to blame for the recession. The blame is solely on greedy bankers who bit off waaaaay more than they could chew.

Yep, give up on the tax thing after I showed the facts haha.

You fail to see the fact of why those loans where taken out and why they where needed. Again, the illegals came and took the jobs, the middle and lower class needed loans so they took out loans through the banks who gladly gave it out and raised interest rates, then they spent everyone's money (that's how loans work and that's why you gain interest when you have money in a certain bank account), and ran the country bankrupt. Weather you want to focus on the illegals taking the money in the beginning, the middle and lower class borrowing money in the middle, or the banks loaning it in the end, that's what happened. I prefer to look at it from the beginning but if you want to look at it starting at the end, that's cool too.

Either way, this is a debate for a different topic, this one is for Trump VS Clinton, not why the '09 recession happened.

002 wrote Yep, give up on the tax thing after I showed the facts haha.

I didn't give up. I literally told you how they were paying taxes.
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002 wrote You fail to see the fact of why those loans where taken out and why they where needed. Again, the illegals came and took the jobs, the middle and lower class needed loans so they took out loans through the banks who gladly gave it out and raised interest rates, then they spent everyone's money (that's how loans work and that's why you gain interest when you have money in a certain bank account), and ran the country bankrupt. Weather you want to focus on the illegals taking the money in the beginning, the middle and lower class borrowing money in the middle, or the banks loaning it in the end, that's what happened. I prefer to look at it from the beginning but if you want to look at it starting at the end, that's cool too.

You're creating your own version of history that literally didn't happen.

This is what caused the recession:
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Jill Stein of the Green Party.