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Hey guys, I need your wisdom here. I am taking a new approach as to why I own the guns that I do and what ones I need which means I'm overhauling the gun cabinet.
The changed that have been made are:
FN PS90: GONE
Windham weaponry R16M4FFT (AR-15): GONE
Harden arms 300 blackout: GONE
Century arms RAS-47: SELLING
When I sell the AK, all I will have is my hunting rifle, and home defense shotgun. Before this new mindset, my whole idea was that I seen a gun, I liked it, and I bought it. That lead to more quantity over quality. All the rifles I sold or are selling are either low quality, or doesn't fit the bill I need it to. My purpose in owning firearms is for hunting and a SHTF scenario. With that said, I can't bug out with 10 rifles. Right now all I need is 3 firearms (plus a pistol when I turn 21), I can justify 5 though and I'll get into that.
So the 3 firearms I find necessary to own is a standard hunting rifle, a shotgun, and a semi-auto rifle. The justifications would be that for a shotgun I'd want a small close quarters one, and a long one for hunting. The other justification would be for the semi auto-rifle. I want a bullpup for home defense, but if I have to engage in a firefight outside of my house, I wold much rather a standard AK, AR, etc. as they are much easier to shoot prone with.
Ok, here's the issue. For the hunting rifle I've got a .270 WIN which is just fine, I might upgrade to a .300 WIN though, but that'll be later on down the road. I've got the Rocky Island 12 gauge for a home defense shotgun, and I'll have to buy a long shotgun for hunting, again not problems with that. My problem is in the semi-autos. Starting with bullpups, there isn't a whole lot of options out there, I'm pretty much stuck with a PS90, Tavor, Steyr style rifles, or an SKS bullpup conversion. The PS90 shoots a weird .22 round that is difficult to find so that's why the PS90 is gone. The Tavor shoots a 5.56 and I would like to stay with a .30 caliber round so that it's legal to hunt with while that still matters. The Steyr falls in the same 5.56 boat, but I've also never liked the style of them. That leaves me with the SKS conversion bullpup (SG works conversion kit on a Norinco SKS). My only issue with those is you're stuck with a 20 round mag. You can load 30 round mags but you have to be precise in loading, and in a firefight situation that is just not ideal. What do you think? I've kinda worked it down to being between the Tavor and SKS conversion, which one do you think would be better? Is there a better option than these two?
For the semi-auto rifle I'm also stuck in a situation. I love the 7.62x39 round, but my issue is the rifle that shoots it. Don't get me wrong, I love the AK-47, but the issue is that what you're going to pay for a quality AK-47 you could build a hell of an AR-15, but the AR-15 build is primarily going to be 5.56. I loved the idea of the AR shooting 7.62x39 which is why I bought the Windham but it just felt like a cheap rifle. Does anyone know of a good quality 7.62x39 for around or under $1500, or should I just be building an AR? Maybe there's another rifle I haven't thought about?
If I can figure out the semi-auto rifle I can figure out the bullpup. If the semi-auto rifle is at least a .30 caliber (legal for hunting) then I would have no problem buying a Tavor chambered in 5.56. If I built a 5.56 AR, then I'd be stuck with getting the SKS bullpup. I've always wanted an SKS bullpup, I just don't like the mag restrictions.
The changed that have been made are:
FN PS90: GONE
Windham weaponry R16M4FFT (AR-15): GONE
Harden arms 300 blackout: GONE
Century arms RAS-47: SELLING
When I sell the AK, all I will have is my hunting rifle, and home defense shotgun. Before this new mindset, my whole idea was that I seen a gun, I liked it, and I bought it. That lead to more quantity over quality. All the rifles I sold or are selling are either low quality, or doesn't fit the bill I need it to. My purpose in owning firearms is for hunting and a SHTF scenario. With that said, I can't bug out with 10 rifles. Right now all I need is 3 firearms (plus a pistol when I turn 21), I can justify 5 though and I'll get into that.
So the 3 firearms I find necessary to own is a standard hunting rifle, a shotgun, and a semi-auto rifle. The justifications would be that for a shotgun I'd want a small close quarters one, and a long one for hunting. The other justification would be for the semi auto-rifle. I want a bullpup for home defense, but if I have to engage in a firefight outside of my house, I wold much rather a standard AK, AR, etc. as they are much easier to shoot prone with.
Ok, here's the issue. For the hunting rifle I've got a .270 WIN which is just fine, I might upgrade to a .300 WIN though, but that'll be later on down the road. I've got the Rocky Island 12 gauge for a home defense shotgun, and I'll have to buy a long shotgun for hunting, again not problems with that. My problem is in the semi-autos. Starting with bullpups, there isn't a whole lot of options out there, I'm pretty much stuck with a PS90, Tavor, Steyr style rifles, or an SKS bullpup conversion. The PS90 shoots a weird .22 round that is difficult to find so that's why the PS90 is gone. The Tavor shoots a 5.56 and I would like to stay with a .30 caliber round so that it's legal to hunt with while that still matters. The Steyr falls in the same 5.56 boat, but I've also never liked the style of them. That leaves me with the SKS conversion bullpup (SG works conversion kit on a Norinco SKS). My only issue with those is you're stuck with a 20 round mag. You can load 30 round mags but you have to be precise in loading, and in a firefight situation that is just not ideal. What do you think? I've kinda worked it down to being between the Tavor and SKS conversion, which one do you think would be better? Is there a better option than these two?
For the semi-auto rifle I'm also stuck in a situation. I love the 7.62x39 round, but my issue is the rifle that shoots it. Don't get me wrong, I love the AK-47, but the issue is that what you're going to pay for a quality AK-47 you could build a hell of an AR-15, but the AR-15 build is primarily going to be 5.56. I loved the idea of the AR shooting 7.62x39 which is why I bought the Windham but it just felt like a cheap rifle. Does anyone know of a good quality 7.62x39 for around or under $1500, or should I just be building an AR? Maybe there's another rifle I haven't thought about?
If I can figure out the semi-auto rifle I can figure out the bullpup. If the semi-auto rifle is at least a .30 caliber (legal for hunting) then I would have no problem buying a Tavor chambered in 5.56. If I built a 5.56 AR, then I'd be stuck with getting the SKS bullpup. I've always wanted an SKS bullpup, I just don't like the mag restrictions.
UPDATE: I ended up finding the SKS bullpup with everything already done to it that I would do so I picked it up today!
Just a standard Norinco SKS chambered in 7.62x39 with an SG works bullpup kit, custom sling, Murray's slam fire kit, bolt mod (closed bolt loading), barrel cut to 16 1/4 inches and threaded, carrier and bolt blued, Magpul foregrip and rear and front flip up sights, Wolff sear spring kit, G5 mag adapter, 3-20 round mags, 4-30 round mags, and a Streamlight flashlight.
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Getting mags in and out is a bit of a learning curve as it's the opposite way an AK loads (you have to put the back par of the mag in first and rock it forward). Unfortunately I haven't got to fire it, I'm flying out to Chicago tomorrow for a week so hopefully next week I can fire it lol.
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Have you ever looked into getting an AR10?
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Just be like soujaboy and get a draco lmaoo
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sota wrote Have you ever looked into getting an AR10?
I've been thinking about them, but they are expensive. You can get a cheap one but them you're looking at a 1:11 or worse twist. I like my 1:9, I know I'm getting too picky lol.
Spartan wrote Just be like soujaboy and get a draco lmaoo
Unfortunately I'm not 21
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Spartan wrote Just be like soujaboy and get a draco lmaoo
SoujaBoy, the ultimate gangster. Lmao
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002 wrotesota wrote Have you ever looked into getting an AR10?
I've been thinking about them, but they are expensive. You can get a cheap one but them you're looking at a 1:11 or worse twist. I like my 1:9, I know I'm getting too picky lol.
Nothin wrong with getting too picky lol its your gun build and it should be how you want. DPMS makes some really nice moderately priced ones, I just flipped through the website and it actually looks like most are 1:10.
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If you are leaning towards an AR-15. Rock River Arms makes a decent AR chambered in 7.62. I personally have fired one before and they are very nice and well balanced. If you want to build your own AR. I would suggest a SPARTAN 10.5" Melonite 7.62x39 1/10 with 12" MLOK Pistol Upper. Spartan is a decent company and a few buddies i work with use that for their on-duty AR. Then go from there.
Now depending what your budget is. Check out [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] They have amazing rifles and parts but are very pricey but in the end are beyond worth it.
Me personally, i have an RRA LAR-8 Elite Operator. It's 308/7.62x51 and it works amazing. That's my bugout rifle.
Now depending what your budget is. Check out [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] They have amazing rifles and parts but are very pricey but in the end are beyond worth it.
Me personally, i have an RRA LAR-8 Elite Operator. It's 308/7.62x51 and it works amazing. That's my bugout rifle.
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Glock- wroteI would suggest a SPARTAN 10.5" Melonite 7.62x39 1/10 with 12" MLOK Pistol Upper. Spartan is a decent company and a few buddies i work with use that for their on-duty AR. Then go from there.
Yea man get the spartan!
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If I built an AR, I think what I'd do is buy the DPMS Orical because by the time I'm done building it, I don't think there will be many stock pieces left lol.
I am loving the idea of the RRA LAR-8 Elite Operator or something chambered in .308, I think that might be the perfect compromise. Now I'm scoping out a Saiga .308 bullpup which would eliminate the need for a bullpup and a long semi auto rifle.
I am loving the idea of the RRA LAR-8 Elite Operator or something chambered in .308, I think that might be the perfect compromise. Now I'm scoping out a Saiga .308 bullpup which would eliminate the need for a bullpup and a long semi auto rifle.
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002 wrote If I built an AR, I think what I'd do is buy the DPMS Orical because by the time I'm done building it, I don't think there will be many stock pieces left lol.My RRA LAR-8 is amazing. Not one misfire or misfeed or anything. I don't use it so often as it's my bugout rifle and ammo is a little pricey.
I am loving the idea of the RRA LAR-8 Elite Operator or something chambered in .308, I think that might be the perfect compromise. Now I'm scoping out a Saiga .308 bullpup which would eliminate the need for a bullpup and a long semi auto rifle.
I am not a fan of bullpop but i would definitely buy a Tavor. I have fired one a few times.
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