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You've multiple times admitted where you can see an abortion would be justified. Can you now not agree that it needs to be an open option for women to access? I could list 10,000 more scenarios where a woman could need an abortion but I think you've seen the point.

Also, I would not want to live in a country where the failure of birth control and an accidental pregnancy will cost me prison time. That or being forced to have a baby I don't want/can't raise. Jesus.
Edit: As stated by Greg previously, I also agree that a late stage pregnancy should not be aborted. There should be a set time frame.

Yin wrote You can't compare drunk driving to abortions. Drunk driving kills people, that are here right now. Abortion is stopping the conscious life before it starts. Not the same thing.

I am pretty sure that I just compared dui to abortions. If you think that I can not do that, then why do you that women should have "abortion rights"? It's killing, it does not matter what you kill, you are killing.

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Yin wrote Well, women should have a special right. Abortion. The current US government wants to limit it more. Also, the protest is more of a sign of unity and solidarity. Majority of Americans have their opinions. I feel it is a great thing. It is a good contrast to what we have been shown by out current government.

Why should women be able to kill a little baby for stupid reasons in most cases? I can understand if you were raped or something like that, then a abortion might be justified. But in most cases, it is women that had sex and "somehow got pregnant". Think about how the world would be if Bill Gates or Steve Jobs was aborted.

I'm sorry, but in no world should a clump of cells that have no brainwave, heartbeat, sense of self or feeling can be considered a living being. If a woman wants to get rid of a fetus because it was a mistake and it would wreck her life, then of course she should be allowed to remove a clump of cells from her ovaries.

It was a mistake, but she needs to pay for it. If you make the mistake of killing someone because you were dui, you will pay. A dui, is a felony, it will ruin your life. Just because it was a mistake, does not mean it is okay.

You can't compare a dui in which a person is killed to removing a clump of cells so small you cannot see them with the naked eye. Late term abortions when the baby can feel, think, respond to external stimulus, sure they shouldn't be allowed to be aborted, but a simple clump of a few dozen cells cannot be compared to a human life...

Not trying to cause an argument, everyone has their own opinions

This is something that I can agree with. I realize that I'm not going to win this argument, so I will leave it at this.

GT40 wrote I've seen so many protest for it, women have the same rights a men.

Minus the fact that their reproductive rights are being taken away from them in the majority of states around the country and are now being threatened on a federal level with Trump's future SCOTUS pick.

Continuous wrote What circumstance would it be acceptable to kill a little baby? Almost none. Just because the women fu**ed up, does not mean that she should be able to kill a little baby. It is not a opinion, it is outright murder. If she is not financially well enough or what the reason may be, then maybe she should not have been having sex.

If by 'baby' you mean a fetus under 24 weeks then you should be able to murder it for every single reason that you can imagine and should maybe even be encouraged to 'murder' it.

You act like human life is so precious that it needs to be protected before it even exists.

What is kind about letting a person be born into this world where they are going to suffer, grow old, watch their friends and family die, and then die in agony themselves? How is that a nice thing to do?
What makes a person ethically upright because they think that other people should be forced into yanking a person out of peaceful non-existence and throwing them into this meat grinder that people lovingly refer to as ,"Life" ?

Forcing someone into this world without their permission when they were perfectly OK floating through non-existence without any knowledge of suffering is the unethical thing to do.

The major part of our species seems able to undergo any trauma without significantly re-examining its household mantras, including, "everything happens for a reason," "the show must go on," "accept the things you cannot change," and any other adage that gets people to keep their chins up. As a survival-happy species, our successes are calculated in the number of years we have extended our lives, with the reduction of suffering being only incidental to this aim. We, by the power invested in us by those who wish to survive and reproduce, vow to enforce the fiction that life is worth having and worth living come hell or irreparable brain damage.

- Thomas Ligotti, The Conspiracy Against the Human Race

This is your antithesis and it makes more sense than what you are saying.

@OP: I don't really agree or disagree with it. From what I have read it would be incredibly difficult for Trump to overturn the current abortion rights in the US. I have read that the most he would be able to do reasonably is make it so that women have to pay for their own abortions by defunding Planned Parenthood.

I guess protesting against this as a way of telling him to appreciate abortion rights more is important, but like I said I don't really see it as pointless or important in general.

Geez i checked this before bed last night with one reply and i come back to 3 pages :0

As far as this whole abortion argument, either you see it as killing a child or you don't. I don't see how people can say that they are against abortion but it's okay in certain circumstances because that's a complete contradiction of their first point. If you think that abortion is killing a child then it shouldn't be okay in any circumstance, and if you think that it's not a child then that's fine.

I don't support the argument that woman should be able to choose to have an abortion just because it's their body though, if that was the case then all drugs should be legal because we're entitled to do whatever we want with our bodies. I personally dislike abortions and wouldn't partaken in one but it's none of my business what other people do behind closed doors, if there is a God which is unlikely in my opinion, I'd also like to maximize my chances of reaching heaven.

As far as the woman's rights thing, woman have a lot more rights in some areas such as abortion, control of the child and rape accusations. I genuinely can't list any rights that men have and woman don't have without being able to Google search them.

I'm going to try to make this as clear and direct as possible for all you individuals of limited perspective coddled by the bounds of your plush society.

You're not entitled to recourse based on your opinion. You will never be entitled to recourse based on your opinion.

Choosing what you believe does not make it a fact only because you believe it.

Educate yourself and offer a firm argument.

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Yin wrote You can't compare drunk driving to abortions. Drunk driving kills people, that are here right now. Abortion is stopping the conscious life before it starts. Not the same thing.

I am pretty sure that I just compared dui to abortions. If you think that I can not do that, then why do you that women should have "abortion rights"? It's killing, it does not matter what you kill, you are killing.

It doesn't matter what you are killing? So, you don't eat? Animals and plants are killed to be eaten. Do you kill bugs when they are being a pest? How about all of the skin cells you kill when you scratch your arm? We value the various types of life differently. A clump of cells within a woman's body doesn't have the same value as a person. It just doesn't. Either way, doesn't matter. The topic is about the protest. Majority of the people at the protest want reproductive rights. It is one of the reasons they protested. People were protesting on every continent. It was a great time for unity.

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Yin wrote Well, women should have a special right. Abortion. The current US government wants to limit it more. Also, the protest is more of a sign of unity and solidarity. Majority of Americans have their opinions. I feel it is a great thing. It is a good contrast to what we have been shown by out current government.

Why should women be able to kill a little baby for stupid reasons in most cases? I can understand if you were raped or something like that, then a abortion might be justified. But in most cases, it is women that had sex and "somehow got pregnant". Think about how the world would be if Bill Gates or Steve Jobs was aborted.

Why? Accidents happen. Condoms break, even if they don't, there's still a 0.1% chance or what ever it says on the box that you can still get pregnant. I would much rather kill an unborn baby that has no bearing in this life than to stress the hell out of the mother, having another kid raised by crack head parents, or thrown in foster care where they become even more screwed up than the parents. This world is overpopulated as it is, why should we bring accidental babies into this earth? Sorry not sorry, just speaking it how I see it.