Glock- wrote And only one of our candidates in history was solely responsible for the deaths of 4 Americans. Tyrone Woods, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, Christoper Stevens.

Republicans had 11 committee hearing and wasted over $7,000,000 in tax dollars and found absolutely zero wrongdoing.
So either she's innocent or Republicans are extremely incompetent.

Glock- wrote Also the first candidate to ever send over 5,000 classified emails over an insecure network which is legally a crime.

Again, we had a Republican director of the FBI who couldn't find wrongdoing to prosecute her.
So either she's innocent or Republicans are extremely incompetent.

Glock- wrote Also the first candidate to have a husband that was impeached and had an affair in the Oval Office.

What does she have to do with the actions of her husband? And he's definitely not the first to have an affair in the oval office. That one is just laughable.

Glock- wrote Also the first candidate to be in a position of power for 30 years and achomplish zero things besides supporting them.

It's actually sad who ignorant of history you are.

Glock- wrote Also the first candidate to be under federal investigation into their charity organization for fraud and embezzlement.

You do realize that Donald's foundation was under investigation for the EXACT same things and is literally still under investigation right now?

Glock- wrote I can go all day with you. Trump isn't perfect ether but at least he's a legitimate businessman and has this countries best interest at heart.

He inherited nearly half a billion dollars from daddy. He has a half dozen bankruptcies under his belt. He's a terrible businessman lol

Cioran wrote

Glock- wrote

Tywin wrote

ZTG wrote this is the weakest link in USA, the stupid people in their population.

46% of Trump voters think Hillary Clinton is running a child sex ring out of a pizza shop in our nation's capital and 41% want to bomb a fictional country from Aladdin.

And only one of our candidates in history was solely responsible for the deaths of 4 Americans. Tyrone Woods, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, Christoper Stevens.

Also the first candidate to ever send over 5,000 classified emails over an insecure network which is legally a crime.

Also the first candidate to have a husband that was impeached and had an affair in the Oval Office.


Also the first candidate to be in a position of power for 30 years and achomplish zero things because supporting them.


Also the first candidate to be under federal investigation into their charity organization for fraud and imbezzlement.



I can go all day with you. Trump isn't perfect ether but at least he's a legitimate businessman and has this countries best interest at heart.



You can sit here all you want and make it seem like you are so educated by easily going on google.

He wasn't attacking Trump, he was attacking Trump voters.
ZTG said that these are the stupidest people in America because of how they are protesting while Trump voters believe patently false things about Hillary Clinton.

He's just saying that there is stupidity on both sides of this.

Well he's calling me stupid apparently then correct?

I could say that

a vast majority of Hillary voters were illegal or deceased with stolen identities.
See where i am going with this? This will go on and on and on

By the look of his views and motto, he's clearly a democrat.

Answer me this, before i go.

Why do you think for the first time since 1928, the Republicans have control over the presidency and the house.

The American people are fed up with the way Democrats have ran this country for the last few years.

Whether you believe it or not, more then half of Americans did not support Obama in his last term.

Those are facts provided by multiple sources

Glock- wrote Why do you think for the first time since 1928, the Republicans have control over the presidency and the house.

The American people are fed up with the way Democrats have ran this country for the last few years.

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Because of gerrymandering in 2010 and the electoral college.
Democrats get millions of more votes when it comes to house races, but gerrymandering has it so that Republicans can't lose their seat.


The last time a Republican legitimately won the popular vote was 29 years ago.

Glock- wrote

Cioran wrote

Glock- wrote

Tywin wrote

ZTG wrote this is the weakest link in USA, the stupid people in their population.

46% of Trump voters think Hillary Clinton is running a child sex ring out of a pizza shop in our nation's capital and 41% want to bomb a fictional country from Aladdin.

And only one of our candidates in history was solely responsible for the deaths of 4 Americans. Tyrone Woods, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, Christoper Stevens.

Also the first candidate to ever send over 5,000 classified emails over an insecure network which is legally a crime.

Also the first candidate to have a husband that was impeached and had an affair in the Oval Office.


Also the first candidate to be in a position of power for 30 years and achomplish zero things because supporting them.


Also the first candidate to be under federal investigation into their charity organization for fraud and imbezzlement.



I can go all day with you. Trump isn't perfect ether but at least he's a legitimate businessman and has this countries best interest at heart.



You can sit here all you want and make it seem like you are so educated by easily going on google.

He wasn't attacking Trump, he was attacking Trump voters.
ZTG said that these are the stupidest people in America because of how they are protesting while Trump voters believe patently false things about Hillary Clinton.

He's just saying that there is stupidity on both sides of this.

Well he's calling me stupid apparently then correct?

I could say that

a vast majority of Hillary voters were illegal or deceased with stolen identities.
See where i am going with this? This will go on and on and on

By the look of his views and motto, he's clearly a democrat.

Answer me this, before i go.

Why do you think for the first time since 1928, the Republicans have control over the presidency and the house.

The American people are fed up with the way Democrats have ran this country for the last few years.

Whether you believe it or not, more then half of Americans did not support Obama in his last term.

Those are facts provided by multiple sources

Judging by his avatar he's actually a Justice Democrat, so he would completely agree with you on the fact that the democratic party has been abhorrent since around the time when Nixon was in office.

He might think that the Democratic party has been better than the Republican party, but that doesn't mean that he thinks the Democratic party as it is now is brilliant.
For example, burning alive is worse than suffocating, but they're still both pretty nasty ways to die.

The problem is that you only see Republicans Vs Everyone. Whereas we see Us Vs Everyone we disagree with.
Whether that be Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Right Wingers, etc. It is possible to dislike the Democratic party and the Republican party.

And no, he was only calling you stupid if you believe that Hillary runs a paedophilia ring and that Trump should bomb the city from Aladdin.

Arguing over politics is like arguing with an intoxicated person or with an insurgent.

You gain no results and it won't change.

So like it or not. He's our president for the next 4 years. So you can either

A: deal with it like 98% of the country.

B: Leave and go to Canada like half of Hollywood said until they realized they wouldn't make money if they did.

Agree?

Glock- wrote So like it or not. He's our president for the next 4 years. So you can either

A: deal with it like 98% of the country.

B: Leave and go to Canada like half of Hollywood said until they realized they wouldn't make money if they did.

Agree?

I'm not questioning his legitimacy. I'm simply dissenting. You dissented against President Obama, so I don't see why you're taking such issue with me doing that.

Tywin wrote

Glock- wrote Why do you think for the first time since 1928, the Republicans have control over the presidency and the house.

The American people are fed up with the way Democrats have ran this country for the last few years.

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Because of gerrymandering in 2010 and the electoral college.
Democrats get millions of more votes when it comes to house races, but gerrymandering has it so that Republicans can't lose their seat.


The last time a Republican legitimately won the popular vote was 29 years ago.

Right, okay.

So answer this, if a Democrat won the exact same way that Trump "won"

Would you object? No. we both know you would not.

You only object the electoral college because you lost.


Also,

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The last time they controlled both WAS 1928.

Glock- wrote So answer this, if a Democrat won the exact same way that Trump "won"

Would you object? No. we both know you would not.

You only object the electoral college because you lost.


Also,

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The last time they controlled both WAS 1928.

Yes, I'd still object. Just because you're a loyalist doesn't mean that everyone else is like that.
Whoever gets the most votes should be the President. One person, one vote.


I don't get your second point. Are you ignoring the reality of gerrymandering?
The GOP setup an entire operation dedicated to redistricting in 2010 called "Red Map"

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Glock- wrote Arguing over politics is like arguing with an intoxicated person or with an insurgent.

You gain no results and it won't change.

So like it or not. He's our president for the next 4 years. So you can either

A: deal with it like 98% of the country.

B: Leave and go to Canada like half of Hollywood said until they realized they wouldn't make money if they did.

Agree?

I prefer the analogy that it's like playing chess with a pigeon.
No matter what moves you make it will knock over the pieces, crap all over the board, and strut about like it has won.

But I would disagree, I myself have changed many of my political opinions by having conversations with people and when I began talking to Tywin on this site he was basically centre right on the political spectrum.

People change but it normally takes a lot of time. You have to think of these conversations in the long-term rather than the short. You sew the seeds of doubt or scepticism in someone's mind about a view they hold and it either takes time for those seeds to grow or their mind doesn't accept the doubt and keeps believing what it originally believed.

Everybody goes into these conversations knowing that they themselves are intellectually honest enough to change their minds if they are convinced that they are wrong, but we doubt that our 'opponents' have the same capacity for change, and that is probably one of the most frustrating aspects of these conversations.
We think that if we can't change someone's mind then they must not be being honest with themselves when there could be an incredibly long list of reasons why.

If you can't handle this being a long-game and want instant results when it comes to changing people's opinions then maybe political discussion just isn't for you.

Glock- wrote Arguing over politics is like arguing with an intoxicated person or with an insurgent.

You gain no results and it won't change.

So like it or not. He's our president for the next 4 years. So you can either

A: deal with it like 98% of the country.

B: Leave and go to Canada like half of Hollywood said until they realized they wouldn't make money if they did.

Agree?

I'm sorry, but half of hollywood? There was maybe a dozen and a half people that said they would leave.

You are sounding like Sean Spicer with your alternative facts