Avexir wrote

Cioran wrote Nothing will happen unless you go into it believing that something will happen.
Games like this and the stigma surrounding the supernatural have a strong psychological effect on us.

Your senses become heightened because your brain is expecting something dangerous to happen. It would be the same as putting you in an empty lion enclosure at a zoo and telling you that there is a lion in it with you. Your hearing would become sharper, your nerve endings would be on edge and any small breeze would feel more intense.

It's why horror movies have to build up the suspense before a jump scare is deployed. If it just happened then we wouldn't be scared, but a camera panning around what we think is an empty room for 20 seconds before it happens puts us on edge.
The culture surrounding the supernatural acts as that same suspense builder.

People moving their hands over Ouija boards isn't supernatural, it's impressionable people believing so fervently their hands will be pushed that they move their own hands subconsciously.

This stigma is so strong that even me, a person who will gladly walk under ladders, cross the path of a black cat and say "Hail Satan" in a Church would still be scared if someone put me in a "haunted building" with all the lights off.
I hope one day to get to the point where I could walk around an abandoned mental hospital and be completely anxiety-free but it will probably never happen because of this stupid culture that is brainwashing children and encouraging them to be afraid of things that aren't even real.

It's the exploitation of an evolutionary advantage that we had over other predators. Fear is what has kept us alive for the past 125,000 generations of humanoids.
Superstition has only done damage where fear has been used to control people.

The people who engage in the propagation of this superstitious nonsense in order to profit off people's gullibility, and - even worse - their need to connect with dead relatives, are among the most ethically bankrupt tricksters on this planet and they should all be called out on it.

Now that's a pretty narrow-minded comment. It isn't a 'culture', that's the most obnoxious comment I've seen on this matter.

Can you explain my mobile phone moving into another room of my house whilst I'm asleep when I'm home alone?

Can you explain why my bed vigorously rattled and shook for 15 minutes whilst I was home alone and my mum was at a spiritual church to try and get in contact with my nan who passed away in 2012? No I didn't think so.

So as smart as your comment may sound, you should maybe at least stay open to it until assuming that it's all fake just because you believe so.

Actually its a pretty accurate judgement, you sleep when you're tired. You placed your phone down before you slept, and you're clearly a strong believer in superstition, so placing your phone down when you're tired, waking up having thought you put it in one place when you actually didn't, you don't understand why it 'moved' and so your only explanation is 'supernatural'

As for your bed vigorously shaking. You knew your mum was going to church to contact your grandmother so like the guy was saying in his post, the stigma of your mum going to contact your grandmother made you have some psychological affects...Furthermore, quite significant that it happened while you were alone? As all of these 'experiences' do.

Cioran wrote

Avexir wrote

Cioran wrote Nothing will happen unless you go into it believing that something will happen.
Games like this and the stigma surrounding the supernatural have a strong psychological effect on us.

Your senses become heightened because your brain is expecting something dangerous to happen. It would be the same as putting you in an empty lion enclosure at a zoo and telling you that there is a lion in it with you. Your hearing would become sharper, your nerve endings would be on edge and any small breeze would feel more intense.

It's why horror movies have to build up the suspense before a jump scare is deployed. If it just happened then we wouldn't be scared, but a camera panning around what we think is an empty room for 20 seconds before it happens puts us on edge.
The culture surrounding the supernatural acts as that same suspense builder.

People moving their hands over Ouija boards isn't supernatural, it's impressionable people believing so fervently their hands will be pushed that they move their own hands subconsciously.

This stigma is so strong that even me, a person who will gladly walk under ladders, cross the path of a black cat and say "Hail Satan" in a Church would still be scared if someone put me in a "haunted building" with all the lights off.
I hope one day to get to the point where I could walk around an abandoned mental hospital and be completely anxiety-free but it will probably never happen because of this stupid culture that is brainwashing children and encouraging them to be afraid of things that aren't even real.

It's the exploitation of an evolutionary advantage that we had over other predators. Fear is what has kept us alive for the past 125,000 generations of humanoids.
Superstition has only done damage where fear has been used to control people.

The people who engage in the propagation of this superstitious nonsense in order to profit off people's gullibility, and - even worse - their need to connect with dead relatives, are among the most ethically bankrupt tricksters on this planet and they should all be called out on it.

Now that's a pretty narrow-minded comment. It isn't a 'culture', that's the most obnoxious comment I've seen on this matter.

Can you explain my mobile phone moving into another room of my house whilst I'm asleep when I'm home alone?

Can you explain why my bed vigorously rattled and shook for 15 minutes whilst I was home alone and my mum was at a spiritual church to try and get in contact with my nan who passed away in 2012? No I didn't think so.

So as smart as your comment may sound, you should maybe at least stay open to it until assuming that it's all fake just because you believe so.

I'll believe that it's all fake until proven otherwise. You want to prove that supernatural things have happened to you or that people in this world have supernatural abilities? Point them in the direction of the James Randi foundation. He has had an open invitation to any psychic, medium, spiritualist, mentalist, ghost hunter, faith healer, clairvoyant, etc. who can prove that they have an ability and there is a 1 million dollar reward for any who do. That offer has been open since the 1960's and not a single person has claimed the money.

I'm sorry that your brain works in the same way as every single other human being's and that you are open to fear and external stimuli making your brain see, hear, and feel things which aren't there.

And yes, it is a culture. 'The Psychic Community' 'The Ghost Hunter Community.' Con artists working in tandem to extort money out of gullible people.

I don't have to explain your mobile phone moving or your bed shaking and I certainly don't have to believe that you aren't lying.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, provide some and then we can have a discussion about it.

I would just like to say when I was around 7 my bed did the same thing "shake" literally screamed my house down parents came in checked under there to make me feel better, turns out i was a little sleep deprived and literally hallucinated the bed shaking felt super real but it was 100% all in my head. Not saying yours was but mine definetly was

PHY wrote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4QOzi7_FUE
Sure it's probably fake but it still gives me the chills

Why do I have to be so curious...

I'm not staying ghosts are real etc but I do agree it's all in your mind. I've had one super weird even in my life that I can't explain, so I say I've seen a ghost. I don't believe in them but this I can't explain.

I was 8 when my great grandfather passed, shook me up since it was the first death I'd encountered, and long story short I fell asleep and woke up to a blue hologram type depiction of gramps sitting at the end of my bed, playing accoustic guitar, smoking a cigarette.

I told my mom because obviously I was scared, and she was like 'weird, gramps never played guitar, or even smoked in my life, let alone infront of you.' and that was that.

Few weeks later my mom asked my grandma, she asked if gramps ever smoked, my grandma said 'yea, way back when I was a little girl, before any of you were even born, he used to only smoke when he played the guitar, how come you're asking?

Instant chills my mom said lol

So if my mom didn't know, and I didn't know, pretty random things for an 8 year old to think up.

I don't post here but thought you guys would like to hear that lol.

kamilca wrote

Cioran wrote

Avexir wrote

Cioran wrote Nothing will happen unless you go into it believing that something will happen.
Games like this and the stigma surrounding the supernatural have a strong psychological effect on us.

Your senses become heightened because your brain is expecting something dangerous to happen. It would be the same as putting you in an empty lion enclosure at a zoo and telling you that there is a lion in it with you. Your hearing would become sharper, your nerve endings would be on edge and any small breeze would feel more intense.

It's why horror movies have to build up the suspense before a jump scare is deployed. If it just happened then we wouldn't be scared, but a camera panning around what we think is an empty room for 20 seconds before it happens puts us on edge.
The culture surrounding the supernatural acts as that same suspense builder.

People moving their hands over Ouija boards isn't supernatural, it's impressionable people believing so fervently their hands will be pushed that they move their own hands subconsciously.

This stigma is so strong that even me, a person who will gladly walk under ladders, cross the path of a black cat and say "Hail Satan" in a Church would still be scared if someone put me in a "haunted building" with all the lights off.
I hope one day to get to the point where I could walk around an abandoned mental hospital and be completely anxiety-free but it will probably never happen because of this stupid culture that is brainwashing children and encouraging them to be afraid of things that aren't even real.

It's the exploitation of an evolutionary advantage that we had over other predators. Fear is what has kept us alive for the past 125,000 generations of humanoids.
Superstition has only done damage where fear has been used to control people.

The people who engage in the propagation of this superstitious nonsense in order to profit off people's gullibility, and - even worse - their need to connect with dead relatives, are among the most ethically bankrupt tricksters on this planet and they should all be called out on it.

Now that's a pretty narrow-minded comment. It isn't a 'culture', that's the most obnoxious comment I've seen on this matter.

Can you explain my mobile phone moving into another room of my house whilst I'm asleep when I'm home alone?

Can you explain why my bed vigorously rattled and shook for 15 minutes whilst I was home alone and my mum was at a spiritual church to try and get in contact with my nan who passed away in 2012? No I didn't think so.

So as smart as your comment may sound, you should maybe at least stay open to it until assuming that it's all fake just because you believe so.

I'll believe that it's all fake until proven otherwise. You want to prove that supernatural things have happened to you or that people in this world have supernatural abilities? Point them in the direction of the James Randi foundation. He has had an open invitation to any psychic, medium, spiritualist, mentalist, ghost hunter, faith healer, clairvoyant, etc. who can prove that they have an ability and there is a 1 million dollar reward for any who do. That offer has been open since the 1960's and not a single person has claimed the money.

I'm sorry that your brain works in the same way as every single other human being's and that you are open to fear and external stimuli making your brain see, hear, and feel things which aren't there.

And yes, it is a culture. 'The Psychic Community' 'The Ghost Hunter Community.' Con artists working in tandem to extort money out of gullible people.

I don't have to explain your mobile phone moving or your bed shaking and I certainly don't have to believe that you aren't lying.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, provide some and then we can have a discussion about it.

I would just like to say when I was around 7 my bed did the same thing "shake" literally screamed my house down parents came in checked under there to make me feel better, turns out i was a little sleep deprived and literally hallucinated the bed shaking felt super real but it was 100% all in my head. Not saying yours was but mine definetly was

I was with an ex-partner at the time and she was sat in a chair opposite me. She seen it also and burst into tears when it happened. Don't have proof now as it was about 4 years ago now.

Avexir wrote

kamilca wrote

Cioran wrote

Avexir wrote

Cioran wrote Nothing will happen unless you go into it believing that something will happen.
Games like this and the stigma surrounding the supernatural have a strong psychological effect on us.

Your senses become heightened because your brain is expecting something dangerous to happen. It would be the same as putting you in an empty lion enclosure at a zoo and telling you that there is a lion in it with you. Your hearing would become sharper, your nerve endings would be on edge and any small breeze would feel more intense.

It's why horror movies have to build up the suspense before a jump scare is deployed. If it just happened then we wouldn't be scared, but a camera panning around what we think is an empty room for 20 seconds before it happens puts us on edge.
The culture surrounding the supernatural acts as that same suspense builder.

People moving their hands over Ouija boards isn't supernatural, it's impressionable people believing so fervently their hands will be pushed that they move their own hands subconsciously.

This stigma is so strong that even me, a person who will gladly walk under ladders, cross the path of a black cat and say "Hail Satan" in a Church would still be scared if someone put me in a "haunted building" with all the lights off.
I hope one day to get to the point where I could walk around an abandoned mental hospital and be completely anxiety-free but it will probably never happen because of this stupid culture that is brainwashing children and encouraging them to be afraid of things that aren't even real.

It's the exploitation of an evolutionary advantage that we had over other predators. Fear is what has kept us alive for the past 125,000 generations of humanoids.
Superstition has only done damage where fear has been used to control people.

The people who engage in the propagation of this superstitious nonsense in order to profit off people's gullibility, and - even worse - their need to connect with dead relatives, are among the most ethically bankrupt tricksters on this planet and they should all be called out on it.

Now that's a pretty narrow-minded comment. It isn't a 'culture', that's the most obnoxious comment I've seen on this matter.

Can you explain my mobile phone moving into another room of my house whilst I'm asleep when I'm home alone?

Can you explain why my bed vigorously rattled and shook for 15 minutes whilst I was home alone and my mum was at a spiritual church to try and get in contact with my nan who passed away in 2012? No I didn't think so.

So as smart as your comment may sound, you should maybe at least stay open to it until assuming that it's all fake just because you believe so.

I'll believe that it's all fake until proven otherwise. You want to prove that supernatural things have happened to you or that people in this world have supernatural abilities? Point them in the direction of the James Randi foundation. He has had an open invitation to any psychic, medium, spiritualist, mentalist, ghost hunter, faith healer, clairvoyant, etc. who can prove that they have an ability and there is a 1 million dollar reward for any who do. That offer has been open since the 1960's and not a single person has claimed the money.

I'm sorry that your brain works in the same way as every single other human being's and that you are open to fear and external stimuli making your brain see, hear, and feel things which aren't there.

And yes, it is a culture. 'The Psychic Community' 'The Ghost Hunter Community.' Con artists working in tandem to extort money out of gullible people.

I don't have to explain your mobile phone moving or your bed shaking and I certainly don't have to believe that you aren't lying.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, provide some and then we can have a discussion about it.

I would just like to say when I was around 7 my bed did the same thing "shake" literally screamed my house down parents came in checked under there to make me feel better, turns out i was a little sleep deprived and literally hallucinated the bed shaking felt super real but it was 100% all in my head. Not saying yours was but mine definetly was

I was with an ex-partner at the time and she was sat in a chair opposite me. She seen it also and burst into tears when it happened. Don't have proof now as it was about 4 years ago now.

You literally just said that you were home alone when it happened.
How are we supposed to take your testimony seriously when from one moment to the next you were alone and someone else was in the room with you?

And you wonder why I don't believe stories like this?

Haha busted

The board is just a trick and there's no such thing as ghost get over it

well ive used one along time ago it told me i would be dead by 16 years old...well im almost 26 now.

i believe in ghosts and stuff... but the ouija board is just plain weird and i dont suggest using it in your home do it somewhere else.