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Would prefer not over 500 GBP Please

I posted 2 months back with a lower budget and in need of a monitor, though did nothing from it. Since, I bought a laptop (i5 7200U HD 620) Which did nicely on minecraft but not really on other games, then died 2 days later </3(returned it today) so thinking I should just build a pc but still am not sure.

This time around I'd like to be able to run games such as, ARK, Evolve, Neverwinter, Borderlands, Minecraft etc.. Im not fussed about ultra settings or anything like that, just medium-high on 1080p & 60fps.

Really this post depends on if I could use my TV until I get more money for a monitor separately.
My tv is Samsung UE22H5000AK

I will NOT need a mouse
I'll probably get an OS from kinguin or somewhere cheap
I may need a keyboard but dont need some pro keyboard, just one that works fine


Either that or if anyone has a laptop suggestion that would run stuff fine but I think a laptop is out of the question for this price.


Thanks for any help
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CPU: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£151.65 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£50.43 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£53.72 @ BT Shop)
Video Card: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£159.99 @ CCL Computers)
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Power Supply: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£43.79 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £485.98

Best performance you'll get for £500 budget. Though, I'd definitely recommend spending a little extra for this B350 chipset motherboard;
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So, that will put you right on the £500 mark, but this doesn't include storage so you'll have to figure something out for that, or go slightly over budget and buy some sort of storage.

Alternatively, you can get this 1050Ti to save about £40, which is enough saving to let you grab some sort of storage and be sitting around the £500 mark;
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Though the 1050Ti is a decent bump down in performance from the RX 570.

Or, you could just go with a Pentium;
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CPU: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£54.82 @ BT Shop)
Motherboard: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£65.12 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£49.95 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£37.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£159.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£26.40 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£43.79 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £493.05

which is still going to perform fine, and you get the RX 570, as well as an HDD and SSD within budget comfortably.

For the case, you can get the black and/or windowed version instead of the white non windowed version if you want btw.
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On the OS thing you can pick up windows for like 3-5$ on ebay with instant delivery of the key.
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CPU: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£151.65 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£50.43 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£53.72 @ BT Shop)
Video Card: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£159.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£26.40 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£43.79 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £485.98

Best performance you'll get for £500 budget. Though, I'd definitely recommend spending a little extra for this B350 chipset motherboard;
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So, that will put you right on the £500 mark, but this doesn't include storage so you'll have to figure something out for that, or go slightly over budget and buy some sort of storage.

Alternatively, you can get this 1050Ti to save about £40, which is enough saving to let you grab some sort of storage and be sitting around the £500 mark;
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Though the 1050Ti is a decent bump down in performance from the RX 570.

Or, you could just go with a Pentium;
[ Register or Signin to view external links. ] / [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

CPU: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£54.82 @ BT Shop)
Motherboard: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£65.12 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£49.95 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£37.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£159.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£26.40 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] (£43.79 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £493.05

which is still going to perform fine, and you get the RX 570, as well as an HDD and SSD within budget comfortably.

For the case, you can get the black and/or windowed version instead of the white non windowed version if you want btw.


Ok so the first build looks more promising - I'll probably get storage from PC World (uk) as I have a gift card.

Could you explain the difference between the motherboards for the first one? What would the advantage be?

Last thing being what other ram could I use? the ram in the initial list isn't on BT Shop any more and it's £40 more on amazon so what other ram should I go for?

Thanks for your help, I might have nooby questions as I don't really know much about pc hardware apart from the basics and what does what, any help appreciated, thanks again!
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MuahaMods wrote Ok so the first build looks more promising - I'll probably get storage from PC World (uk) as I have a gift card.

Could you explain the difference between the motherboards for the first one? What would the advantage be?

Last thing being what other ram could I use? the ram in the initial list isn't on BT Shop any more and it's £40 more on amazon so what other ram should I go for?

Thanks for your help, I might have nooby questions as I don't really know much about pc hardware apart from the basics and what does what, any help appreciated, thanks again!

The G4560 would be fine and would be much easier to get within budget, but yes, the Ryzen 5 1400 would be the better choice since it has twice as many cores/threads. PC World are pretty poor for pricing but if you have a gift card for there, and that lets you get the Ryzen system, then it's worth it. You should try to get an SSD and HDD if possible. If not, maybe try to get an SSD now to last you a while and add an HDD later. It's easier to add an HDD later, rather than SSD and you want to get the SSD first so you can get the OS on there. However, if you can't afford both right now and really need more storage than you'd get with an SSD, you'll have to just get an HDD now and add an SSD later. It's more hassle in the future but if that's the way you have to do it, there's not much you can do.

The A320 motherboard is just the cheapest AM4 motherboard you can get, so it's not very good. It will do the job if you need to save money, but you'd be better spending a bit more for a better quality motherboard if possible. As well as the fact that with the B350 chipset motherboard, you can overclock your CPU at any point if you want. And, if you can spend even a little bit more again, you can get a B350 chipset motherboard with 4 DIMM slots, instead of just 2;
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Get this RAM;
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It's faster anyway so that will be beneficial with the Ryzen 5 CPU.

or, if you need something a bit cheaper;
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though this is a decent bit slower. It won't make a huge difference, but it will make a difference.
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MuahaMods wrote Ok so the first build looks more promising - I'll probably get storage from PC World (uk) as I have a gift card.

Could you explain the difference between the motherboards for the first one? What would the advantage be?

Last thing being what other ram could I use? the ram in the initial list isn't on BT Shop any more and it's £40 more on amazon so what other ram should I go for?

Thanks for your help, I might have nooby questions as I don't really know much about pc hardware apart from the basics and what does what, any help appreciated, thanks again!

The G4560 would be fine and would be much easier to get within budget, but yes, the Ryzen 5 1400 would be the better choice since it has twice as many cores/threads. PC World are pretty poor for pricing but if you have a gift card for there, and that lets you get the Ryzen system, then it's worth it. You should try to get an SSD and HDD if possible. If not, maybe try to get an SSD now to last you a while and add an HDD later. It's easier to add an HDD later, rather than SSD and you want to get the SSD first so you can get the OS on there. However, if you can't afford both right now and really need more storage than you'd get with an SSD, you'll have to just get an HDD now and add an SSD later. It's more hassle in the future but if that's the way you have to do it, there's not much you can do.

The A320 motherboard is just the cheapest AM4 motherboard you can get, so it's not very good. It will do the job if you need to save money, but you'd be better spending a bit more for a better quality motherboard if possible. As well as the fact that with the B350 chipset motherboard, you can overclock your CPU at any point if you want. And, if you can spend even a little bit more again, you can get a B350 chipset motherboard with 4 DIMM slots, instead of just 2;
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Get this RAM;
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It's faster anyway so that will be beneficial with the Ryzen 5 CPU.

or, if you need something a bit cheaper;
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though this is a decent bit slower. It won't make a huge difference, but it will make a difference.


For now would this be a good SSD? 240GB too, and it's £30 less because of the gift card.

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OR this one - though it's more - [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

Also all the RX 570s say it's only for preorder? like amazon and the other sites, and I was looking to get that over the 1050ti for sure.
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MuahaMods wrote For now would this be a good SSD? 240GB too, and it's £30 less because of the gift card.

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OR this one - though it's more - [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

Also all the RX 570s say it's only for preorder? like amazon and the other sites, and I was looking to get that over the 1050ti for sure.

Yeah, either of those SSD's would be fine. The PNY one isn't great, but it's alright for the price. 850 EVO is pretty much the best option for a SATA SSD right now, so go with the 850 EVO if you want a better SSD, or PNY if you'd rather save some money.

As for the RX 570s, that's a pain in the ass. Stock must be a little iffy right now since they're still sort of new, and I guess they're pretty popular. This Aorus card seems to be the earliest one that will be available but it's a bit more expensive;
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The 570 is basically an updated 470 with better memory speeds, so if you can find a 470, go with that. If that's too much of a pain in the ass, a 1050Ti will be fine and will let you play 1080p at med-high settings comfortably, no bother.

Other than that, check out reddit.com/r/hardwareswapuk and see if there are any RX 470/570s or RX 480/580s on there. More likely to find a 400 series card than 500 obviously. Or, you could get this R9 380;
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It will out-perform the GTX 1050Ti, but it's not going to perform as well as an RX 470/570.
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haloxx wrote On the OS thing you can pick up windows for like 3-5$ on ebay with instant delivery of the key.


That definitely sounds less than legal, would not recommend.
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MuahaMods wrote For now would this be a good SSD? 240GB too, and it's £30 less because of the gift card.

** - [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

OR this one - though it's more - [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

Also all the RX 570s say it's only for preorder? like amazon and the other sites, and I was looking to get that over the 1050ti for sure.

Yeah, either of those SSD's would be fine. The PNY one isn't great, but it's alright for the price. 850 EVO is pretty much the best option for a SATA SSD right now, so go with the 850 EVO if you want a better SSD, or PNY if you'd rather save some money.

As for the RX 570s, that's a pain in the ass. Stock must be a little iffy right now since they're still sort of new, and I guess they're pretty popular. This Aorus card seems to be the earliest one that will be available but it's a bit more expensive;
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The 570 is basically an updated 470 with better memory speeds, so if you can find a 470, go with that. If that's too much of a pain in the ass, a 1050Ti will be fine and will let you play 1080p at med-high settings comfortably, no bother.

Other than that, check out reddit.com/r/hardwareswapuk and see if there are any RX 470/570s or RX 480/580s on there. More likely to find a 400 series card than 500 obviously. Or, you could get this R9 380;
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It will out-perform the GTX 1050Ti, but it's not going to perform as well as an RX 470/570.


Would either of these be better?
The 3gb or 6gb 1060
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And as for the SSD Im probably getting the 850 EVO 240GB, which I presume I could get no matter what case mobo etc that i get right?
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Nah, the 3GB GTX 1060 would be a terrible option. The RX 470/570 out-perform the 3GB GTX 1060, but you can just about get a 4GB RX 480/580 for the same price as the 3GB 1060. The 6GB GTX 1060 is a good competitor to the 4GB 480/580, but I'd recommend the 480/580 instead since they would typically pull ahead of the 6GB 1060, and are often priced better.

From the looks of it though, it appears availability for all of the AMD cards is pretty poor right now. Which is a little odd. If you really want a GPU now, and don't to go with a 1050Ti, a 3GB/6GB GTX 1060 would be a fine alternative to an RX 470/570 or RX 480/580, but the AMD option would be better if you can wait.

Here's a really nice 4GB RX 580 that should be in stock soon;
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Overclockers UK appear to be getting some RX 570 and 580's in stock within the next couple of days. Or, scan should have some Gigabyte 500 series cards in stock tomorrow apparently;
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Again, [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] could be a good shout if you don't mind buying used. There are GTX 980s selling on there for around £180, I've seen some barely used 8GB RX 480's sell there for £150, and even some R9 390(x)'s sell for under £130. R9 390(x), GTX 980, and RX 480/580 all trade blows with each other so any of those would be a good option.
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