oh boy, another person who likes old school and now is slandering new rappers

theres nothing different from old school rap to today's rap besides besides the beats and rappers

they rap about the same stuff

this is one of the worst arguments about music

nen wrote first of all this is corny.

categorising an entire genre into a single statement is pretty dumb within itself
if you truly believe that every modern rapper is about this then you have no knowledge about the genre

1. Joey Badass
2.earl sweatshirt
3.chance the rapper
4.Vince Staples
5.Isaiah Rashad
off the top of my head

hopsin is one of THE worst rappers I find it hilarious how people give him credit
you're knowledge of the genre is obviously weak and you're blaming the credibility of rap on your knowledge
Okay now to list my problems with this

1. Old rappers done the exact same thing, it doesn't matter who it is even pac or biggie. In multiple songs they brag about the EXACT same shit that's rap in general.
2. Rap is not valued strictly on lyricism. It's equally as difficult to make a song which is catchy and sounds good. This is proven in the fact that there is very few lyrical songs which have the ability to be played at parties etc. For example an artist like Lil Uzi Vert makes songs which are very poor in lyricism but is extremely catchy and sounds good (which is a subjective opinion) so I will bump it. This more pop-record approach to rap is necessary to the culture of rap-hiphop. What do you play at parties ? Tupac ? if you do I am not coming.
4. "this is the reason this generation is screwed up ok" you cannot be serious this is something an old women would say. What generation do you want to go back on ? cause in every single generation there is dumb people.
5. I listen to what you class as "mumble rap" which is ironic because your strong love of lyricism isn't shown in your posts because it's a struggle to read it.
6. Music and every other artform needs to progress, if this tupac and biggie culture continued and strived all rap music would sound the same. For example artists like Travis Scott or Kanye have sonically influenced the genre in such a good way, rap is now much more sonically better. Also the fact that lyrical rappers are still alive and making a lot of music shows that the values of rap continue.

J cole is another who has impacted the rap game massively.People might call mumble rappers trash but people like Travis,Migos,Uzi,Yachty,Carti can actually spit bars.Yachtys lyrics can be questionable at times like peek a boo lol but Songs like Mase in 97 and From The D to the A he can actually spit bars.

nen wrote

lilmayo wrote

nen wrote first of all this is corny.

categorising an entire genre into a single statement is pretty dumb within itself
if you truly believe that every modern rapper is about this then you have no knowledge about the genre

1. Joey Badass
2.earl sweatshirt
3.chance the rapper
4.Vince Staples
5.Isaiah Rashad
off the top of my head

hopsin is one of THE worst rappers I find it hilarious how people give him credit
you're knowledge of the genre is obviously weak and you're blaming the credibility of rap on your knowledge
Okay now to list my problems with this

1. Old rappers done the exact same thing, it doesn't matter who it is even pac or biggie. In multiple songs they brag about the EXACT same shit that's rap in general.
2. Rap is not valued strictly on lyricism. It's equally as difficult to make a song which is catchy and sounds good. This is proven in the fact that there is very few lyrical songs which have the ability to be played at parties etc. For example an artist like Lil Uzi Vert makes songs which are very poor in lyricism but is extremely catchy and sounds good (which is a subjective opinion) so I will bump it. This more pop-record approach to rap is necessary to the culture of rap-hiphop. What do you play at parties ? Tupac ? if you do I am not coming.
4. "this is the reason this generation is screwed up ok" you cannot be serious this is something an old women would say. What generation do you want to go back on ? cause in every single generation there is dumb people.
5. I listen to what you class as "mumble rap" which is ironic because your strong love of lyricism isn't shown in your posts because it's a struggle to read it.
6. Music and every other artform needs to progress, if this tupac and biggie culture continued and strived all rap music would sound the same. For example artists like Travis Scott or Kanye have sonically influenced the genre in such a good way, rap is now much more sonically better. Also the fact that lyrical rappers are still alive and making a lot of music shows that the values of rap continue.

Can you explain why hopsin is bad? Also why is this even an argument? Its like comparing old school cars to modern cars, they have their own benefits. I personally have no idea why people get so butthurt by people making music, I listen to a lot of genres, but rap is basically the sole majority of what I listen to now. I listen to heaps of artists and I don't give a flying **** as to when the song came out, if I enjoy the song, I listen, simple. Please have a fkn brain and just listen to what you like and not argue about 'oh **** the new rap game it blows, bad lyrics bla bla' no one actually cares and if you do then you need to re-evaluate your life lmao.

hopsin is one of the corniest rappers in existence and his music is just objectively bad.
He makes music for people who wear DC shoes and have a monster energy drink addiction

Hahaha, dunno if thats totally true but I just like his Ill mind songs and a few others, the beats and the lyrics are good so I rate them. I can also assure you that I don't drink monster and I have never owned a pair of DC shoes ahhaah.

Vial wrote

nen wrote first of all this is corny.

categorising an entire genre into a single statement is pretty dumb within itself
if you truly believe that every modern rapper is about this then you have no knowledge about the genre

1. Joey Badass
2.earl sweatshirt
3.chance the rapper
4.Vince Staples
5.Isaiah Rashad
off the top of my head

hopsin is one of THE worst rappers I find it hilarious how people give him credit
you're knowledge of the genre is obviously weak and you're blaming the credibility of rap on your knowledge
Okay now to list my problems with this

1. Old rappers done the exact same thing, it doesn't matter who it is even pac or biggie. In multiple songs they brag about the EXACT same shit that's rap in general.
2. Rap is not valued strictly on lyricism. It's equally as difficult to make a song which is catchy and sounds good. This is proven in the fact that there is very few lyrical songs which have the ability to be played at parties etc. For example an artist like Lil Uzi Vert makes songs which are very poor in lyricism but is extremely catchy and sounds good (which is a subjective opinion) so I will bump it. This more pop-record approach to rap is necessary to the culture of rap-hiphop. What do you play at parties ? Tupac ? if you do I am not coming.
4. "this is the reason this generation is screwed up ok" you cannot be serious this is something an old women would say. What generation do you want to go back on ? cause in every single generation there is dumb people.
5. I listen to what you class as "mumble rap" which is ironic because your strong love of lyricism isn't shown in your posts because it's a struggle to read it.
6. Music and every other artform needs to progress, if this tupac and biggie culture continued and strived all rap music would sound the same. For example artists like Travis Scott or Kanye have sonically influenced the genre in such a good way, rap is now much more sonically better. Also the fact that lyrical rappers are still alive and making a lot of music shows that the values of rap continue.

J cole is another who has impacted the rap game massively.People might call mumble rappers trash but people like Travis,Migos,Uzi,Yachty,Carti can actually spit bars.Yachtys lyrics can be questionable at times like peek a boo lol but Songs like Mase in 97 and From The D to the A he can actually spit bars.

Alfa wrote Example, you used Hopsin as an example ._. I can stand today's rap buy c'mon, Hopsin just throws random words I can't even understand

What are you talking about? The song that he chose(No Words) was meant to mock "rappers" that mumble rap.

Hopsin makes great music...

Here is a example....


The OP and everybody who feels this way is what I would consider "special".

If you feel the same way as OP then you must only listen to the rap that is on the radio. You are not listening to real rap.

There are plenty of great rappers at the moment.

Joyner Lucas, Earl Sweatshirt, Logic, Joey Badass, Kendrick Lamar, etc.

Joyner Lucas is my current favorite rapper. Here is some great songs by him...




OP, you are just not looking hard enough.

Vial wrote

nen wrote first of all this is corny.

categorising an entire genre into a single statement is pretty dumb within itself
if you truly believe that every modern rapper is about this then you have no knowledge about the genre

1. Joey Badass
2.earl sweatshirt
3.chance the rapper
4.Vince Staples
5.Isaiah Rashad
off the top of my head

hopsin is one of THE worst rappers I find it hilarious how people give him credit
you're knowledge of the genre is obviously weak and you're blaming the credibility of rap on your knowledge
Okay now to list my problems with this

1. Old rappers done the exact same thing, it doesn't matter who it is even pac or biggie. In multiple songs they brag about the EXACT same shit that's rap in general.
2. Rap is not valued strictly on lyricism. It's equally as difficult to make a song which is catchy and sounds good. This is proven in the fact that there is very few lyrical songs which have the ability to be played at parties etc. For example an artist like Lil Uzi Vert makes songs which are very poor in lyricism but is extremely catchy and sounds good (which is a subjective opinion) so I will bump it. This more pop-record approach to rap is necessary to the culture of rap-hiphop. What do you play at parties ? Tupac ? if you do I am not coming.
4. "this is the reason this generation is screwed up ok" you cannot be serious this is something an old women would say. What generation do you want to go back on ? cause in every single generation there is dumb people.
5. I listen to what you class as "mumble rap" which is ironic because your strong love of lyricism isn't shown in your posts because it's a struggle to read it.
6. Music and every other artform needs to progress, if this tupac and biggie culture continued and strived all rap music would sound the same. For example artists like Travis Scott or Kanye have sonically influenced the genre in such a good way, rap is now much more sonically better. Also the fact that lyrical rappers are still alive and making a lot of music shows that the values of rap continue.

J cole is another who has impacted the rap game massively.People might call mumble rappers trash but people like Travis,Migos,Uzi,Yachty,Carti can actually spit bars.Yachtys lyrics can be questionable at times like peek a boo lol but Songs like Mase in 97 and From The D to the A he can actually spit bars.

travis lyrically always has melodic flows imo travis is the goat

rodeo has been the best rap album in the last 3-4 years imo

nen wrote

Vial wrote

nen wrote first of all this is corny.

categorising an entire genre into a single statement is pretty dumb within itself
if you truly believe that every modern rapper is about this then you have no knowledge about the genre

1. Joey Badass
2.earl sweatshirt
3.chance the rapper
4.Vince Staples
5.Isaiah Rashad
off the top of my head

hopsin is one of THE worst rappers I find it hilarious how people give him credit
you're knowledge of the genre is obviously weak and you're blaming the credibility of rap on your knowledge
Okay now to list my problems with this

1. Old rappers done the exact same thing, it doesn't matter who it is even pac or biggie. In multiple songs they brag about the EXACT same shit that's rap in general.
2. Rap is not valued strictly on lyricism. It's equally as difficult to make a song which is catchy and sounds good. This is proven in the fact that there is very few lyrical songs which have the ability to be played at parties etc. For example an artist like Lil Uzi Vert makes songs which are very poor in lyricism but is extremely catchy and sounds good (which is a subjective opinion) so I will bump it. This more pop-record approach to rap is necessary to the culture of rap-hiphop. What do you play at parties ? Tupac ? if you do I am not coming.
4. "this is the reason this generation is screwed up ok" you cannot be serious this is something an old women would say. What generation do you want to go back on ? cause in every single generation there is dumb people.
5. I listen to what you class as "mumble rap" which is ironic because your strong love of lyricism isn't shown in your posts because it's a struggle to read it.
6. Music and every other artform needs to progress, if this tupac and biggie culture continued and strived all rap music would sound the same. For example artists like Travis Scott or Kanye have sonically influenced the genre in such a good way, rap is now much more sonically better. Also the fact that lyrical rappers are still alive and making a lot of music shows that the values of rap continue.

J cole is another who has impacted the rap game massively.People might call mumble rappers trash but people like Travis,Migos,Uzi,Yachty,Carti can actually spit bars.Yachtys lyrics can be questionable at times like peek a boo lol but Songs like Mase in 97 and From The D to the A he can actually spit bars.

travis lyrically always has melodic flows imo travis is the goat

rodeo has been the best rap album in the last 3-4 years imo

I agree Travis is the GOAT Birds in the trap was alright but it has nothing on Rodeo.

I like today's rap way way way way better rappers such as g herbo and Kodak black are my two favorite I never really liked tupac or biggie never thought much of them