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So, me being recently employed would like to spend some of my extra schmeckles on some new PC parts. I'm going to have a car payment as well so my whole check cant be dedicated to my PC (sadface). Anyway as the title says which part needs an upgrade FIRST or if you want to take the extra step what should be my order of upgrades from start to finish.
Budget $300-400 USD per part (Video card not included in budget, I know I have to pay big buckaroons for those gems)
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Budget $300-400 USD per part (Video card not included in budget, I know I have to pay big buckaroons for those gems)
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$300-400 per part, for how many parts? Are you buying everything at once? If not, you should. Don't buy bit by bit. You're best off building a new system and re-using the HDD and GPU for now IMO. PSU is trash. CPU is old, low end and on a dead socket.
Grab an SSD, some DDR4 RAM, a Pentium G4560 or Ryzen 3/5(and appropriate motherboard), upgrade PSU and case(if it's not great). GPU is fine for 1080p so no need to rush that upgrade.
Grab an SSD, some DDR4 RAM, a Pentium G4560 or Ryzen 3/5(and appropriate motherboard), upgrade PSU and case(if it's not great). GPU is fine for 1080p so no need to rush that upgrade.
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13 wrote $300-400 per part, for how many parts? Are you buying everything at once? If not, you should. Don't buy bit by bit. You're best off building a new system and re-using the HDD and GPU for now IMO. PSU is trash. CPU is old, low end and on a dead socket.
Grab an SSD, some DDR4 RAM, a Pentium G4560 or Ryzen 3/5(and appropriate motherboard), upgrade PSU and case(if it's not great). GPU is fine for 1080p so no need to rush that upgrade.
Thanks for the reply, My original plan was to buy it all at once ( [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ) however I figured I would just get what I can when I can (Ohh impatient me) Although I'll probably take your advice and get it all at once However I am curious what difference it would actually make buying bit by bit. I will also more than likely replace my HDD because I forgot to mention that it seems to be on the verge of death. It benchmarks at around %20 lol.
To answer some of the questions more directly: $300-400 for any part (besides a case b/c woah momma)
I planned on buying bit by bit but will probably buy all at once.
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Saying you have $300-400 per part and then looking at an entire system for $660 is really confusing.
I wouldn't get those parts anyway. Ryzen 5 is a good shout but that AsRock motherboard is pretty poor. The case is pretty tragic as well.
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Total: $673.28
Much better quality, fully modular case PSU lol. Much better motherboard. Plus, a better quality case with a nice tempered glass window. You could potentially re-use your case for now to save $80 if you wanted, but keep in mind that if you do that, you'll be building this new PC inside your current case, then have to take it all out and rebuild it in a new case when you get one so it would be more convenient if you got the new case at the same time as everything else. Use the SSD and your 500GB HDD for now, and then you can add another HDD later.
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I wouldn't get those parts anyway. Ryzen 5 is a good shout but that AsRock motherboard is pretty poor. The case is pretty tragic as well.
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Memory: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($116.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($104.33 @ OutletPC)
Case: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] ($79.99 @ Newegg)
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Total: $673.28
Much better quality, fully modular case PSU lol. Much better motherboard. Plus, a better quality case with a nice tempered glass window. You could potentially re-use your case for now to save $80 if you wanted, but keep in mind that if you do that, you'll be building this new PC inside your current case, then have to take it all out and rebuild it in a new case when you get one so it would be more convenient if you got the new case at the same time as everything else. Use the SSD and your 500GB HDD for now, and then you can add another HDD later.
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Im not sure how much money you have to spend. Your PSU is shite. Your CPU is old and is on a dead socket. I'd buy a cheap graphics card ame switch it out with your r9 graphics card and sell the whole computer. I'd recommend selling it and starting over new. I'd start with this build. [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
You'll be able to play any game you want if you upgrade your gfx card at a later date.
You'll be able to play any game you want if you upgrade your gfx card at a later date.
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PinchePija wrote Im not sure how much money you have to spend. Your PSU is shite. Your CPU is old and is on a dead socket. I'd buy a cheap graphics card ame switch it out with your r9 graphics card and sell the whole computer. I'd recommend selling it and starting over new. I'd start with this build. [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
You'll be able to play any game you want if you upgrade your gfx card at a later date.
SSD and PSU are absolute trash. Case is big, over priced, and unnecessary. Motherboard and CPU really don't make much sense at all together.
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13 wrotePinchePija wrote Im not sure how much money you have to spend. Your PSU is shite. Your CPU is old and is on a dead socket. I'd buy a cheap graphics card ame switch it out with your r9 graphics card and sell the whole computer. I'd recommend selling it and starting over new. I'd start with this build. [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
You'll be able to play any game you want if you upgrade your gfx card at a later date.
SSD and PSU are absolute trash. Case is big, over priced, and unnecessary. Motherboard and CPU really don't make much sense at all together.
That PSU is not trash. You're crazy. The case is big enough to do cable management and provide room enough room to work with. The z1 MB, is reliable. Sure, you can't use any of the OC features, but what are the odds he's going to want to OC. If he wants the option to OC, he has it. (He could upgrade to an unlocked i7 or maybe upgrade to an unlocked i5 for $30 more.) The ssd isn't that bad. You're not going to notice the difference in real world. He'll notice a big difference coming from a disk. EVGA PSU's are quality as ****. I've been using them for years.
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PinchePija wrote That PSU is not trash. You're crazy. EVGA PSU's are quality as ****. I've been using them for years.
Just because you've been using EVGA PSUs, does not mean they are good. EVGA do not make any PSUs. They get PSUs from people like Super Flower and then throw an EVGA sticker on it. Just because EVGA have some good PSUs, doesn't mean they're all good. They have some really terrible units, like the G1/NEX unit you recommended.
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He'd be better off with a cheaper, Bronze rated unit than a G1.
PinchePija wrote The case is big enough to do cable management and provide room enough room to work with.
This means nothing. So are plenty of significantly cheaper cases. My point still stands, it is overpriced and unnecessary. It's also ridiculously old. In fact, you could get a new case for $60-90 that would be easier and nicer to work in, as well as look nicer and have more/better features.
PinchePija wrote The z1 MB, is reliable. Sure, you can't use any of the OC features, but what are the odds he's going to want to OC. If he wants the option to OC, he has it. (He could upgrade to an unlocked i7 or maybe upgrade to an unlocked i5 for $30 more.)
Plenty of cheaper motherboards are reliable. He'd be better off getting a nice B250/H270 board rather than a cheap Z170 board, especially since he can't overclock with a locked CPU anyway. Regardless, Ryzen 5 is a better option anyway IMO.
PinchePija wrote The ssd isn't that bad.
Yes, it is. Kingston done a bait and switch on the V300 so the older ones were alright, but the new ones are significantly worse and lose performance quickly. They're horrible SSDs and should be avoided like the plague.
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PinchePija wrote You're not going to notice the difference in real world. He'll notice a big difference coming from a disk.
Actually not entirely true. Some people who got a V300 from one of the shitty batches were losing so much performance that their SSD was performing as slow as their HDD. Regardless, you can get a better SSD for cheaper anyway, so the V300 is utterly pointless. Kingston HyperX Fury, A-Data SP600, and A-Data SU800 would all be a better option for a lower price.
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13 wrote Saying you have $300-400 per part and then looking at an entire system for $660 is really confusing.
That was more of a quick route, I figured I would just buy them all at once and suffer a few quality issues (Again, my impatience is what kills me lol) but I figured "Wellll I can wait I'll just buy more expensive parts at once and keep quality in the process" granted I could just save the extra money and get it all at once but who knows. Money burns the pocket of a lot of people.
The new case if most definitely going to be something I purchase. No reusing the old one, this case I currently have is **** [b]Massive[/b] and has horrible dust/heat protection. I would link the case but it doesn't have a name anywhere on it and II bought the PC pre-made at a local PC store (locally owned) and as a matter of fact my current case has too much room tbh. there is like a 6x12" space beneath my gpu (it doesnt sag though)
My knowledge is much to limited to know a good MOBO from a bad one (aside from DDR4, and # of ports)
In regards to the CPU I think RYZEN takes the cake for me, I've heard only good things about it and the I-5 is locked, (if I ever wanted to OC)
Last thoughts here, What GPU would you reccomend? I was looking at the ZOTAC 1070 8gb MINI would the MOBO/Case you currently gave me support such a card?
Thanks again
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seth2992 wrote That was more of a quick route, I figured I would just buy them all at once and suffer a few quality issues (Again, my impatience is what kills me lol) but I figured "Wellll I can wait I'll just buy more expensive parts at once and keep quality in the process" granted I could just save the extra money and get it all at once but who knows. Money burns the pocket of a lot of people.
I know, I built my current PC bit by bit and ended up upgrading/swapping parts constantly. I went from locked i5 to a 4790k, from MSI Z97 mono to Asus Maximus Z97, from single GTX 770 to SLI GTX 770, to single GTX 970, to SLI GTX 970, and then back to single GTX 970 again. I also must have went through 6 or 7 different kinds of case fans, and 3(maybe 4) PSUs. This is exactly why I know you should just buy everything at once so you don't end up with a system that you don't like, and/or is mismatched, or even out-dated.
seth2992 wrote The new case if most definitely going to be something I purchase. No reusing the old one, this case I currently have is **** [b]Massive[/b] and has horrible dust/heat protection.
Yeah, that's fine. It will be much easier to get the new case at the same time as the other new stuff, rather than re-use the old case for a month or two anyway. The Eclipse P400(S) will be a great new case. Loads of space, PSU shroud, rubber grommets and plenty of cable management room, tempered glass window, LEDs, and a choice of colours.
seth2992 wrote My knowledge is much to limited to know a good MOBO from a bad one (aside from DDR4, and # of ports)
There's not an awful lot to it, most motherboards are fine. In fact, that AsRock board is one of the few really terrible AM4 motherboards AFAIK. Even then, it's fine for a budget board to use with a 4 core R5, or even a 1600 at stock clock speeds.
seth2992 wrote In regards to the CPU I think RYZEN takes the cake for me, I've heard only good things about it and the I-5 is locked, (if I ever wanted to OC)
You really should OC anyway IMO. It's not even hard at all these days. You could go for an unlocked i5 and have the ability to OC, by R5 1600 will perform almost identically in the majority of games and has 3 times as many threads so I'm multi-threaded workloads, like editing/rendering/streaming etc, R5 blows i5 out of the water.
seth2992 wrote Last thoughts here, What GPU would you reccomend? I was looking at the ZOTAC 1070 8gb MINI would the MOBO/Case you currently gave me support such a card?
The motherboard isn't going to give you issues with GPU support. The case is what will limit GPU support for the most part. I'd really be holding on to your R9 380 for now though. Spend the $700 or so for everything else, maybe even add another HDD and possibly an aftermarket CPU cooler first, and then think about GPU upgrade. If you have a 1080p or lesser resolution monitor, I wouldn't bother upgrading at all for a while. So if that's the case, you might even be better off looking at a new monitor before a new GPU.
As for GPU compatibiity, just edit the parts list I gave you and add whatever GPU you're looking at, PCPP is pretty good for GPU/case compatibility. If you're still worried, you can just Google the dimensions of the GPU you're looking at to find out what length it is. The Eclipse P400 will support GPUs up to 395mm(15 inches).
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