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#21. Posted:
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Yeah? This doesn't back up your views/claims. The US has more crime per capita than the UK, and significantly more gun crime per capita.

How? You just stated what I've been saying. More crime=more violence. So we have a criminal problem and they tend to flock towards guns to deal with there actions.
Okay? Don't see what this has to do with anything I've said?

You asked, I was just stating a case where D.C. was pushing over our second amendment.
Proper background checks and a monitored physical test with a firearm.

What would you add to the background check that's not already there? A physical check? Like if you can shoot good that would justify a better reason for you to have a gun?
The majority obtain guns through straw purchase sales, they have someone else obtain the gun legally. Second most common method would be corrupt gun dealers. You make guns harder to obtain, and it absolutely takes a LOT of guns away from criminals. Just because it doesn't remove all illegal guns from criminals, doesn't mean it doesn't have an impact.

That's why most criminals found with guns are stolen. Corrupt gun dealers? Like in gun stores? Gun shows? You know they have agents that check for that kind of stuff. Surely you are not talking about street gun dealers. Those are stolen guns and not register to the seller. That would be ignorant to sell a gun register to them to a random person without transferring it.
Okay, so show me that criminals ONLY use guns from Mexico? Show me that criminals never use legally obtained guns.

Your twisting the words. Im saying a large amount of guns are being sent over here so gun restrictions will not really impact the street market. Kind of like drugs, they are illegal. You see a slowdown in that? That would be just stupid to use a legally obtained gun for criminal actions. Las Vegas shooting had some legal guns, but he wasn't planning on coming out alive. Each gun has a type of "fingerprint".
The only real issue I have with legally obtained guns, that are being used by responsible people is "conceal and carry". I really don't see any reason to take a gun out in to the streets with you.

... Ok, you are safe in your house, but if you go out into the public, you're ****.
Yeah, about the same amount as religion.

So whats wrong with them praying? You made it sound like it was some kind of wrong action.
Silly silly things that you are nitpicking.
Yeah, what you done was say " Effective criticism.", sarcastically obviously because you weren't aware I was in the middle of responding to you. Also, you've just admitted that you went back and downvoted my posts because I disagree'd with one of yours lmfao.

You don't know whats going on in my head, it was a funny bud. I could put two and two together. You were on the topic, I imaged you would reply. Again, I said I did lol, as well as you are doing the same thing haha. What can I not disagree with your post with a downvote? The difference is you are making it sound like im the only one doing it.
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I'm American and I'm against stricter gun regulations. I don't know how your country works, but the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution guarantees our right to own firearms. It does not specify. They've already chipped away at what we can have. Now I don't believe civilians should have access to ownership automatic firearms, or devices that simulate automatic fire. But I own a semi automatic rifle, and guess what, I haven't killed anyone.
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Coz gun laws don't do anything

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But it's so much apart of culture in the States. But people will only see what they wanna see.
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Illustrated wrote I'm American and I'm against stricter gun regulations. I don't know how your country works, but the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution guarantees our right to own firearms. It does not specify. They've already chipped away at what we can have. Now I don't believe civilians should have access to ownership automatic firearms, or devices that simulate automatic fire. But I own a semi automatic rifle, and guess what, I haven't killed anyone.
You can have gun laws like over here in AUS and still have guns.
#25. Posted:
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Nodus wrote
Illustrated wrote I'm American and I'm against stricter gun regulations. I don't know how your country works, but the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution guarantees our right to own firearms. It does not specify. They've already chipped away at what we can have. Now I don't believe civilians should have access to ownership automatic firearms, or devices that simulate automatic fire. But I own a semi automatic rifle, and guess what, I haven't killed anyone.
You can have gun laws like over here in AUS and still have guns.
Well, what are your gun laws?

Unfortunately I live in a disgustingly liberal state, and the gun laws are already tighter here. For me anyway, I had to take an approved pistol course, which involves actually firing a pistol, before I could get my pistol permit. Then have a background check and fingerprints done before it would be approved. That sounds like enough to me, is it not? I don't know what else you would incorporate.

For my rifle, I showed my military ID at the gun store, which allowed me to purchase it. Most "assault" rifles are already banned in my state. I'm only allowed to get one because I could produce a valid military ID. So, what else do you want from that? Gun laws are already in place, and already strict.
#26. Posted:
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There should be a mandatory federal background check at the very least.
This is something that 90% of the population agrees with, including the majority of NRA members, but NRA leadership, who takes money from gun manufacturers, opposes it with all the money they have.
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Tywin wrote There should be a mandatory federal background check at the very least.
This is something that 90% of the population agrees with, including the majority of NRA members, but NRA leadership, who takes money from gun manufacturers, opposes it with all the money they have.


You already need a background check to get any firearms license, yes?
#28. Posted:
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Illustrated wrote
Tywin wrote There should be a mandatory federal background check at the very least.
This is something that 90% of the population agrees with, including the majority of NRA members, but NRA leadership, who takes money from gun manufacturers, opposes it with all the money they have.


You already need a background check to get any firearms license, yes?


You don't need a firearms license to buy a gun. There are several different methods of purchasing a firearm that doesn't require a background check like they should.
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