phenomenal, purely phenomenal. You sir have a great mind

c0dcoders wrote

TTGxL96SNIPES wrote

c0dcoders wrote Wow, I wish there was an easier way to say this but your kind of an idiot. XBE/Eaton are online with jtags and can modify game content including host 10th lobbies. Theres no such thing as being to host a modded lobby complete with a mod menu and not be able to do rank/challenge hacks. Also the update from 12611 to 12625 was such a basic update you dont have to re-implement the entire framework of the rebooter in order to develop a dash that is live ready. Another thing is there is no defined line between signed code an unsigned code. Can we hide the fact that we are running unsigned code on our jtags? In theory yes we can we just don't know how to. Not to say that we will ever find out how to hide from microsoft while connected to their server or how to even connect to live with jtags, but we know it CAN be done and i remain confident it will be done in the future. Never underestimate what hackers can do with enough experience a good enough understanding of the console they are hacking. Microsoft certainly may not be stupid but neither are we, and I guarantee the jtag has not reached the end of its days.

I assure you we are not idiots...tbh you are the idiot. Modded lobbies can be completed with out use of a JTAG. Look at WaW and hotswapping even. You need to think outside the box. With the dev you can tear the game apart.

You need to look more into things before you try to call us idiots, also they were hosting an hour or 2 after the newest kernel update if your trying to imply that they managed to code a whole new freeboot and get their image totally made in and hour then you need to look at what your saying, also your neglecting the fact that you need to have checks removed or be sending false info to the servers if you have any chance of getting online.

Also don't say it is like a undectable JTAG because as soon as you connect to XBL guess what...they know you are on their servers.

You really need to look into what we are saying here and look at the guy who re arranged his whole mw2 hud via profile editing. I highly doubt they are on a JTAG.

Please do not try to call us idiots when we have multiple valid points that can back up this argument.

Perhaps you misunderstood my post. I wasn't calling "us" idiots, i was calling you an idiot. What I said the update didnt require the complete re-implementation of a new freeboot, nearly tweaks to the existing one. And the waw hotsawps is bad example because waw didnt use xex checks, leading to the exploit. Newer games use xex checks and are therefor impossible to iso mod without modifying the xex and breaking the signature. And yes, people have gotten jtags online, don't deny they haven't(theres proof on the main page of ttg)

I see where both of you are coming from. Not gonna say which side I'm because I havent decided yet. But Im almost sure the Xbox has many checks and it would be quite hard to get around them, perhaps them have a Dev kit or something, made their own program and somehow doing some bullshit magic went online, just to look cool to everybody else. Also I would not call anybody that can mod a few games good modders, I'd call the first people who made FreeBoot and XBReboot, because that was smart. If I'd have anyone hacking my Xbox360 with any hope of doing it right, I'd get someone with a COLLEGE DeGREE in something to do with how computers function and work and someone that can see what and how the Xbox360 sends commands and shit like that, then they might have a shot, because Im almost sure that the Xbox360 is just a PC right? I has alot of things COmputers have? GPU, CPU, Ram, ect...

I am pretty sure Eaton is resigning title updates, sounds far fetched but he def has the brains to do it.

As for devkits they debug the script and can pinpoint problems, however I doubt they are the solution, but you never know. Any Xex running in an Xbox has to be signed 3 different ways that take place in 3 different places in the console, including privately held keys. However, the private key from Black ops was torn apart relatively quickly and considering how long the Xbox has been out, it's not totally insane to consider that someone accomplished just that, or at least how to resign a title update/ xbox file which we all know contains the patch and other files. However any modded Xexs would not run on a retail.,

I bet a million dollars he isn't using a JTAG or he would be hosting more than just MW2 Lobbies

finnaly a post where the person isnt spamming

xLasers wrote I am pretty sure Eaton is resigning title updates, sounds far fetched but he def has the brains to do it.

As for devkits they debug the script and can pinpoint problems, however I doubt they are the solution, but you never know. Any Xex running in an Xbox has to be signed 3 different ways that take place in 3 different places in the console, including privately held keys. However, the private key from Black ops was torn apart relatively quickly and considering how long the Xbox has been out, it's not totally insane to consider that someone accomplished just that, or at least how to resign a title update/ xbox file which we all know contains the patch and other files. However any modded Xexs would not run on a retail.,

No, resigning through XNA does not work. The signature on the files has to be the one coming from M$, they are not that stupid lol.

c0dcoders wrote

TTGxL96SNIPES wrote

c0dcoders wrote Wow, I wish there was an easier way to say this but your kind of an idiot. XBE/Eaton are online with jtags and can modify game content including host 10th lobbies. Theres no such thing as being to host a modded lobby complete with a mod menu and not be able to do rank/challenge hacks. Also the update from 12611 to 12625 was such a basic update you dont have to re-implement the entire framework of the rebooter in order to develop a dash that is live ready. Another thing is there is no defined line between signed code an unsigned code. Can we hide the fact that we are running unsigned code on our jtags? In theory yes we can we just don't know how to. Not to say that we will ever find out how to hide from microsoft while connected to their server or how to even connect to live with jtags, but we know it CAN be done and i remain confident it will be done in the future. Never underestimate what hackers can do with enough experience a good enough understanding of the console they are hacking. Microsoft certainly may not be stupid but neither are we, and I guarantee the jtag has not reached the end of its days.

I assure you we are not idiots...tbh you are the idiot. Modded lobbies can be completed with out use of a JTAG. Look at WaW and hotswapping even. You need to think outside the box. With the dev you can tear the game apart.

You need to look more into things before you try to call us idiots, also they were hosting an hour or 2 after the newest kernel update if your trying to imply that they managed to code a whole new freeboot and get their image totally made in and hour then you need to look at what your saying, also your neglecting the fact that you need to have checks removed or be sending false info to the servers if you have any chance of getting online.

Also don't say it is like a undectable JTAG because as soon as you connect to XBL guess what...they know you are on their servers.

You really need to look into what we are saying here and look at the guy who re arranged his whole mw2 hud via profile editing. I highly doubt they are on a JTAG.

Please do not try to call us idiots when we have multiple valid points that can back up this argument.

Perhaps you misunderstood my post. I wasn't calling "us" idiots, i was calling you an idiot. What I said the update didnt require the complete re-implementation of a new freeboot, nearly tweaks to the existing one. And the waw hotsawps is bad example because waw didnt use xex checks, leading to the exploit. Newer games use xex checks and are therefor impossible to iso mod without modifying the xex and breaking the signature. And yes, people have gotten jtags online, don't deny they haven't(theres proof on the main page of ttg)

There is no proof on the main page, proof to me would be showing Eaton boot up his JTAG, go show Xellous and then go straight into XeX menu from Game library boot his game and play.

That would be proof, why else would they always say "what makes you guys think we are on jtags?"


Stop trying to troll. As far as the WaW hot swaps i was saying you have to do something along those lines but not that exact thing, i obviously know that you can't do them with out modding the XeX anymore, the RSA needs to be removed which would then break the signature.

Just think outside the box, no JTAG is going undetectable in my mind, as soon as you connect to an M$ XBL server they know you are on it.

nice post bro i had a feeling dev kits had to do with this

No, resigning through XNA does not work. The signature on the files has to be the one coming from M$, they are not that stupid lol.

Who do you think created XNA? And as someone else stated, once you start playing with the coding, it wont be signed anymore.
I'm not going to ask you to release your ideas, as somone stated you had no intention of it, but do you actually have any working tests completed? Or something to prove you can modify the code enough to create a working mod menu, without the signiture being corrupt?

THANK YOU L96 FOR BRINGING THIS OUT EVERYONE MUST BELIVE YOU YOUVE BEEN A TTG MEMBER LONGER THHES AN EATON AND AS SOO AS EARON JOINS THE SITE SAYING HES GOT A NEW FREEBOOT AND CR*P LIKE THAT EVERY1 JUST GOS STRAIT TO HIM AND OH EATON PLEASE TELL US HOW YOU MADE THE NEW *FREEBOOT* JUST GET IT EVERY1 HES NOT ON A ******G JTAG GET INTO YOUR HEADS

-TTGCURTz