ziAmChrisz wrote

TTGxL96SNIPES wrote

StyxPyro wrote Nice one- but don't speculate too much, otherwise M$ might catch on, and although there is few ways around it- M$ will patch it some how. You'll be the ones blamed ;)

So, your saying you want us to be selfish and not share anything with the community
. With out anyone trying and mentioning theories people would go no where.

So if we figure everything out and get everything working and don't release, i guess you"ll be the one blamed

Tbh if you figure it out and release it, YOU will be the one to get the credit.

If your selfish and keep it for yourself, even though people know your "Online" Your not going to get credit, if someone releases how to do it.

But yeah, it's totally up 2 the people who find out how to do it if they want to release it.

IMO--I wouldn't release but i wouldn't go around bragging that i have done it, i would just chill and play online, and if i got host people would be happy.

But if it is to do with a devket and basically making a new game, your going to need alot of disk's to test it?

Owell, nice post anyway.

Who cares what other people say? If you are online and you know how to do it. then why care what other people think about you? They are just mad that they do not know how to get online and want to leech their ass off for the tutorial. Eaton should keep it to himself and IF he wants to release he will do so.

-Pretentious- wrote

ziAmChrisz wrote

TTGxL96SNIPES wrote

StyxPyro wrote Nice one- but don't speculate too much, otherwise M$ might catch on, and although there is few ways around it- M$ will patch it some how. You'll be the ones blamed ;)

So, your saying you want us to be selfish and not share anything with the community
. With out anyone trying and mentioning theories people would go no where.

So if we figure everything out and get everything working and don't release, i guess you"ll be the one blamed

Tbh if you figure it out and release it, YOU will be the one to get the credit.

If your selfish and keep it for yourself, even though people know your "Online" Your not going to get credit, if someone releases how to do it.

But yeah, it's totally up 2 the people who find out how to do it if they want to release it.

IMO--I wouldn't release but i wouldn't go around bragging that i have done it, i would just chill and play online, and if i got host people would be happy.

But if it is to do with a devket and basically making a new game, your going to need alot of disk's to test it?

Owell, nice post anyway.

Who cares what other people say? If you are online and you know how to do it. then why care what other people think about you? They are just mad that they do not know how to get online and want to leech their **** off for the tutorial. Eaton should keep it to himself and IF he wants to release he will do so.

Eaton is not the only person to get "online" people are figuring it out slowly, but soon somebody is going to release and there will be choas.

ziAmChrisz wrote

-Pretentious- wrote

ziAmChrisz wrote

TTGxL96SNIPES wrote

StyxPyro wrote Nice one- but don't speculate too much, otherwise M$ might catch on, and although there is few ways around it- M$ will patch it some how. You'll be the ones blamed ;)

So, your saying you want us to be selfish and not share anything with the community
. With out anyone trying and mentioning theories people would go no where.

So if we figure everything out and get everything working and don't release, i guess you"ll be the one blamed

Tbh if you figure it out and release it, YOU will be the one to get the credit.

If your selfish and keep it for yourself, even though people know your "Online" Your not going to get credit, if someone releases how to do it.

But yeah, it's totally up 2 the people who find out how to do it if they want to release it.

IMO--I wouldn't release but i wouldn't go around bragging that i have done it, i would just chill and play online, and if i got host people would be happy.

But if it is to do with a devket and basically making a new game, your going to need alot of disk's to test it?

Owell, nice post anyway.

Who cares what other people say? If you are online and you know how to do it. then why care what other people think about you? They are just mad that they do not know how to get online and want to leech their **** off for the tutorial. Eaton should keep it to himself and IF he wants to release he will do so.

Eaton is not the only person to get "online" people are figuring it out slowly, but soon somebody is going to release and there will be choas.

Ya I wonder what files he edited that weren't protected to be able to get 10th and a Mod Menu.

Really nice post L96. I like all your theories.
I would believe in this method to.
This will shut up scrubs and leechers to. :p

You are just so helpfull thsnks

M24SNIPES wrote

ziAmChrisz wrote

-Pretentious- wrote

ziAmChrisz wrote

TTGxL96SNIPES wrote

StyxPyro wrote Nice one- but don't speculate too much, otherwise M$ might catch on, and although there is few ways around it- M$ will patch it some how. You'll be the ones blamed ;)

So, your saying you want us to be selfish and not share anything with the community
. With out anyone trying and mentioning theories people would go no where.

So if we figure everything out and get everything working and don't release, i guess you"ll be the one blamed

Tbh if you figure it out and release it, YOU will be the one to get the credit.

If your selfish and keep it for yourself, even though people know your "Online" Your not going to get credit, if someone releases how to do it.

But yeah, it's totally up 2 the people who find out how to do it if they want to release it.

IMO--I wouldn't release but i wouldn't go around bragging that i have done it, i would just chill and play online, and if i got host people would be happy.

But if it is to do with a devket and basically making a new game, your going to need alot of disk's to test it?

Owell, nice post anyway.

Who cares what other people say? If you are online and you know how to do it. then why care what other people think about you? They are just mad that they do not know how to get online and want to leech their **** off for the tutorial. Eaton should keep it to himself and IF he wants to release he will do so.

Eaton is not the only person to get "online" people are figuring it out slowly, but soon somebody is going to release and there will be choas.

Ya I wonder what files he edited that weren't protected to be able to get 10th and a Mod Menu.

With a dev kit you can make protected files un-protcted basically and you can make unsigned code into signed code.

c0dcoders wrote

TTGxL96SNIPES wrote

c0dcoders wrote

TTGxL96SNIPES wrote

c0dcoders wrote Wow, I wish there was an easier way to say this but your kind of an idiot. XBE/Eaton are online with jtags and can modify game content including host 10th lobbies. Theres no such thing as being to host a modded lobby complete with a mod menu and not be able to do rank/challenge hacks. Also the update from 12611 to 12625 was such a basic update you dont have to re-implement the entire framework of the rebooter in order to develop a dash that is live ready. Another thing is there is no defined line between signed code an unsigned code. Can we hide the fact that we are running unsigned code on our jtags? In theory yes we can we just don't know how to. Not to say that we will ever find out how to hide from microsoft while connected to their server or how to even connect to live with jtags, but we know it CAN be done and i remain confident it will be done in the future. Never underestimate what hackers can do with enough experience a good enough understanding of the console they are hacking. Microsoft certainly may not be stupid but neither are we, and I guarantee the jtag has not reached the end of its days.

I assure you we are not idiots...tbh you are the idiot. Modded lobbies can be completed with out use of a JTAG. Look at WaW and hotswapping even. You need to think outside the box. With the dev you can tear the game apart.

You need to look more into things before you try to call us idiots, also they were hosting an hour or 2 after the newest kernel update if your trying to imply that they managed to code a whole new freeboot and get their image totally made in and hour then you need to look at what your saying, also your neglecting the fact that you need to have checks removed or be sending false info to the servers if you have any chance of getting online.

Also don't say it is like a undectable JTAG because as soon as you connect to XBL guess what...they know you are on their servers.

You really need to look into what we are saying here and look at the guy who re arranged his whole mw2 hud via profile editing. I highly doubt they are on a JTAG.

Please do not try to call us idiots when we have multiple valid points that can back up this argument.

Perhaps you misunderstood my post. I wasn't calling "us" idiots, i was calling you an idiot. What I said the update didnt require the complete re-implementation of a new freeboot, nearly tweaks to the existing one. And the waw hotsawps is bad example because waw didnt use xex checks, leading to the exploit. Newer games use xex checks and are therefor impossible to iso mod without modifying the xex and breaking the signature. And yes, people have gotten jtags online, don't deny they haven't(theres proof on the main page of ttg)

There is no proof on the main page, proof to me would be showing Eaton boot up his JTAG, go show Xellous and then go straight into XeX menu from Game library boot his game and play.

That would be proof, why else would they always say "what makes you guys think we are on jtags?"


Stop trying to troll. As far as the WaW hot swaps i was saying you have to do something along those lines but not that exact thing, i obviously know that you can't do them with out modding the XeX anymore, the RSA needs to be removed which would then break the signature.

Just think outside the box, no JTAG is going undetectable in my mind, as soon as you connect to an M$ XBL server they know you are on it.

Your stupid, you CAN'T ISO MOD MW2! the game has xex checks in place preventing you from modifying the patches or any game files for that matter without first removing those checks. Removing the checks involved modifying the xex. Guess what happens when you modify the xex, you break the signature on it. Guess what RSA is put in place for, to prevent the running of unsigned code. ALL code that runs on a retail is signed so modifying the xex in ANY way would prevent it from running on a retail. If you really wana disprove me go flash you disk drive, mod a MW2 iso, and watch as the xbox refuses to read it because the signature is invalid. You can't trick RSA on a retail, period.

ypu can iso mod any game and you can merge the unsigned into the signed via a devkit man you gotta listen to the theories

holy :idea: :idea: cod coders is :idea:

i have a feeling that if this method is correct

alot of people will be purchasing these discs at a very high price and owners of these devkits will become very rich

TTGxL96SNIPES wrote

xLasers wrote I am pretty sure Eaton is resigning title updates, sounds far fetched but he def has the brains to do it.

As for devkits they debug the script and can pinpoint problems, however I doubt they are the solution, but you never know. Any Xex running in an Xbox has to be signed 3 different ways that take place in 3 different places in the console, including privately held keys. However, the private key from Black ops was torn apart relatively quickly and considering how long the Xbox has been out, it's not totally insane to consider that someone accomplished just that, or at least how to resign a title update/ xbox file which we all know contains the patch and other files. However any modded Xexs would not run on a retail.,

No, resigning through XNA does not work. The signature on the files has to be the one coming from M$, they are not that stupid lol.

I didn't mention XNA, I know that wouldn't work. I'm saying he probably reverse engineered the key just like what happened to the Black Ops fastfiles. Anything is possible.