you've made alot of useful posts and i agree that the control musicians but dont believe you about the politicians and others.

nice post !!!!! i liked it and gave me more info !!!

good post and im not having a go at you but i think that the Illuminati is absolute bo***cks, yes i think they were real but no way could a group of people control everyone. I think that most of that is made up by people just to scare.I may be wrong but they are my views

p.s i thought Lucifer was an angel before he went to hell, not like you said, the devil

-McDade- wrote you've made alot of useful posts and i agree that the control musicians but dont believe you about the politicians and others.

Well what about the JFK assassination. They didn't like how we was cutting military funds etc so 'they' killed him. There is no proof that they do control the government, but how do the expect to start a 'new world order' without controlling the gov?

Umm No. I'm sorry I can't take the BS that people think! Media? Music? ect? Yeah so you think Eminem who created the lyrics on his own is part Illuminati? No.

Katie Walters (Or waters) of CBS evening news is part of the Illuminati?


Bull Shit.


If you think because of subliminal messages that they are with the Illuminati then your obviously dumb.

Illuminati believe that the church is wrong and that Science is the answer. It's how its always been. They have never took over the media or music industry. Why? The church doesn't reach the people through the media. The Illuminati have a GREAT history in being known. Every kid in school will learn about them because they take a little part in history. During the ancient times of Rome (NOT Year 1. Like 1700) and with little detail given from your teacher you will look it up or ignore it. But for the people that look it up will take interest in it and join in or believe in it.

So what I'm trying to say is that what you and many other people think about the Illuminati is total bullcrap. STUDY the damn subject don't read youtube videos about it because most of it is like what you have said. BS.


/done.

The free masons and the Illuminati are the same. The Illuminati are leaders of the free masons. Illuminati are only few people, we can compare them to our government. Free Masons are people who "sold" their souls to the devil for anything.

-Shox- wrote

-McDade- wrote you've made alot of useful posts and i agree that the control musicians but dont believe you about the politicians and others.

Well what about the JFK assassination. They didn't like how we was cutting military funds etc so 'they' killed him. There is no proof that they do control the government, but how do the expect to start a 'new world order' without controlling the gov?

It was 3 guys and it was called the Big Bang...3 snipers and the guy who shot him,,,,,Before he died in the ER...He told his son...That He shot Him!

L96A1 wrote Umm No. I'm sorry I can't take the BS that people think! Media? Music? ect? Yeah so you think Eminem who created the lyrics on his own is part Illuminati? No.

Katie Walters (Or waters) of CBS evening news is part of the Illuminati?


Bull Shit.


If you think because of subliminal messages that they are with the Illuminati then your obviously dumb.

Illuminati believe that the church is wrong and that Science is the answer. It's how its always been. They have never took over the media or music industry. Why? The church doesn't reach the people through the media. The Illuminati have a GREAT history in being known. Every kid in school will learn about them because they take a little part in history. During the ancient times of Rome (NOT Year 1. Like 1700) and with little detail given from your teacher you will look it up or ignore it. But for the people that look it up will take interest in it and join in or believe in it.

So what I'm trying to say is that what you and many other people think about the Illuminati is total bullcrap. STUDY the damn subject don't read youtube videos about it because most of it is like what you have said. BS.


/done.

I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

L96A1 wrote Umm No. I'm sorry I can't take the BS that people think! Media? Music? ect? Yeah so you think Eminem who created the lyrics on his own is part Illuminati? No.

Katie Walters (Or waters) of CBS evening news is part of the Illuminati?


Bull Shit.


If you think because of subliminal messages that they are with the Illuminati then your obviously dumb.

Illuminati believe that the church is wrong and that Science is the answer. It's how its always been. They have never took over the media or music industry. Why? The church doesn't reach the people through the media. The Illuminati have a GREAT history in being known. Every kid in school will learn about them because they take a little part in history. During the ancient times of Rome (NOT Year 1. Like 1700) and with little detail given from your teacher you will look it up or ignore it. But for the people that look it up will take interest in it and join in or believe in it.

So what I'm trying to say is that what you and many other people think about the Illuminati is total bullcrap. STUDY the damn subject don't read youtube videos about it because most of it is like what you have said. BS.


/done.

Ok, First. You have no proof that Eminem is not a part of the Illuminati. He may write most of his lyrics, but he writes them to make people 'want to be like him' (Taking control of his fans). To be honest, If Eminem asked one of his fans for $100.. They would most likely Give it to him. This is how they take control of the Media, By making their members role models / idols for the people who listen / watch them.

That Katie Walters Girl, She is not a part of the illuminati. But, The illuminati tell the government what to do, the government tell CBS what do to, and they tell her what to do. She doesn't have to know about their secrets, she's 'Tool far down the line' to Know anything.

And that little rant you had at the end, it takes a lot more than youtube videos. I have went to the freemason lodge (only one in Ireland) and I spoke to many of the members. They are VERY secretive people so its hard to gather information from them other than their beliefs (Religiously). Here in Ireland, we dont study Freemasonry in History. Its looked down upon. The only places I can gather information is from the Internet and the Freemason Lodge. Regular Freemasons don't know anything about the illuminati's new world order plans. Freemasons do have the same beliefs as them, but they dont act as extremist in society.

And what you are saying, The Illuminati weren't as powerful in history, all they were, were a local group of German freemasons who wanted to give themselves a superior name. I also see that people who have an interest in the Illuminati will join? Funny. The illuminati are thee most discrete group of people in the world. The reason why the Media and Superpowers are involved is because they have the most money in the world. You can't achieve a New World Order without money. A person like me or you will never see inside the illuminati.

/looking forward to a reply and why don't flame, this is just a regular discussion and no need to get abusive.