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THIS WAS TAKEN FROM ANOTHER FORUM: i thought it would be a good idea to take it here.
I am going to preface this by saying I don't thing therre is much new in what I am about to say. I am simply puzzling together a few things in my mind that I don't think I have seen correlated yet. Forgive the wall text that is following, but please take a moment to consider a few things.
1) I dont think there is another area of the map that we have not accessed. There are many casimir looking devices, but nothing has ever come of them...I believe them to be props. I think the next step of the easter egg (or what I'm going to call a new easter egg) involves an existing area of the map.
Now, why do I think this?
It comes from 2 lines that are always found in the Easter Egg (and others.... At the start of every game on Ascension, Gersch (mystery man if you don't think its Gersch) beings with, "Please, help me....she's coming." Who "she" is seems relatively obvious to mot zombieites, but I'm going to state the obvious, "she" is Sam.
Now, throughout the completion of the easter egg Gersch (mystery man) makes another remark, "Hurry, she's almost here, help me, LUNA!" this says she is getting closer...closer than she was when he said she's coming.
Finally, one of the more recent discoverys, you can hear Sam, after screaming, say, "Come find me." we have hinted at this, but we have not yet discovered what this means. Literally, its hide and seek. Its not the first time. There are numerous references to samantha believing the entire zombie thing as a game, why wouldn't she like to play a game of hide and seek.
She was angry when we freed Gersch...now we have to find her for the next part of the game. This is where I believe we are looking at a new easter egg. We have finished the mystery man easter egg, but we have unlocked another. We need to find Samantha. This is why there is no more howling, this is why the code ends...the next step in the coding is elwhere as another section of code.
We need to look at a few things for where to find her.
1) it isn't in the nature of any company to make an easter egg that has a one-shot principal. Meaning, whatever the next step is not going to be failed if you don't complete it on the first try. In a potentially endless game like zombies, you should be able to access the easter eggs whenever...no matter how much you failed.
Think of it this way, if you don't shoot enough stuff into the Gersch device, you get unlimited tries until you give it enough "power." So, as I flesh out this theory, I don't think the 90 second death machine is key to the next step...unless you consider this:
Codex claims that every DM power up after this gives everyone the DM for the standard 30 seconds. This is obviously not enough time to get all over the map, but if you knew where you were going, you and the team could post up until you got them again.
Or the DM's have nothing to do with Sam's hiding place.
I do not think we are looking for a new place on the map...and this is because of the basic rules of hide and seek. There are always boundaries. As a child, my neighborhood used to play hide and seek, but certain lawns/backyards, were off limits. If you hid there, you lost. Same principle applies here, we have been all over the map with no hint of going elsewhere.
Some people have seen other potential areas (another lander pad by speed cola, a door below stamin-up) but others have no clipped the map to the furthest extent...no additional areas exist.
So, where could she be?
I'm sure I'll see someone (or many someones) claim the centrifuge...and i say show me proof. I don't think its going to be as simple as one step. The completed mystery man easter egg had 6 confirmed steps....why would finding Sam be easier? The steps for freeing Gersch were continually more complex, requiring more people to complete. The first 2 steps required only one person. But suddenly, you need 4 people for the monkey buttons and pressure switch. Also, don't forget that the LUNA lander step requires 3 lander pads and 1 rider...meaning unless someone runs around like crazy, 4 people...
So why not use 4 people to find her. I have said before that there are 3 inassessible doors...but all look like storage rooms to me. Is she hiding in the closet? (a favorite hiding place of my youth) or is she stuck in the centrifuge and we need to get her out.
The only way I Could see there being more to the map was if it was a puzzle to open, like the casimir device was. (this is a pretty big if in my mind).
So, here is how I propose to find Sam: we need a team. This team needs to explore every inch of Ascension. This team needs to note every minor detail from battery locations, lander configuration, perk cola songs, etc. And make a note of it all.
Then, they need to complete the mystery man easter egg...and scour the map again. Find what is different, what sounds are new. Does something in the distance look different. Does the moon change? They need to confirm and/or debunk existing hypothesis and create their own while exploring. What can they find that changes or seems different about each section of the map.
Yes, that seems obvious, but notice we are now aware we are looking for a hiding place. What does that tell us? Someplace inconspicuous...someplace where a small child could hide...a small child with godlike powers and "Fluffy" hellhound pets...Most of all, what is or is not a Logical "first step" to a new easter egg...one more complex than mystery man.
My idea being out...your Ideas? Thoughts? Comment Below!
P.s. Forgive the wall text...please.
I am going to preface this by saying I don't thing therre is much new in what I am about to say. I am simply puzzling together a few things in my mind that I don't think I have seen correlated yet. Forgive the wall text that is following, but please take a moment to consider a few things.
1) I dont think there is another area of the map that we have not accessed. There are many casimir looking devices, but nothing has ever come of them...I believe them to be props. I think the next step of the easter egg (or what I'm going to call a new easter egg) involves an existing area of the map.
Now, why do I think this?
It comes from 2 lines that are always found in the Easter Egg (and others.... At the start of every game on Ascension, Gersch (mystery man if you don't think its Gersch) beings with, "Please, help me....she's coming." Who "she" is seems relatively obvious to mot zombieites, but I'm going to state the obvious, "she" is Sam.
Now, throughout the completion of the easter egg Gersch (mystery man) makes another remark, "Hurry, she's almost here, help me, LUNA!" this says she is getting closer...closer than she was when he said she's coming.
Finally, one of the more recent discoverys, you can hear Sam, after screaming, say, "Come find me." we have hinted at this, but we have not yet discovered what this means. Literally, its hide and seek. Its not the first time. There are numerous references to samantha believing the entire zombie thing as a game, why wouldn't she like to play a game of hide and seek.
She was angry when we freed Gersch...now we have to find her for the next part of the game. This is where I believe we are looking at a new easter egg. We have finished the mystery man easter egg, but we have unlocked another. We need to find Samantha. This is why there is no more howling, this is why the code ends...the next step in the coding is elwhere as another section of code.
We need to look at a few things for where to find her.
1) it isn't in the nature of any company to make an easter egg that has a one-shot principal. Meaning, whatever the next step is not going to be failed if you don't complete it on the first try. In a potentially endless game like zombies, you should be able to access the easter eggs whenever...no matter how much you failed.
Think of it this way, if you don't shoot enough stuff into the Gersch device, you get unlimited tries until you give it enough "power." So, as I flesh out this theory, I don't think the 90 second death machine is key to the next step...unless you consider this:
Codex claims that every DM power up after this gives everyone the DM for the standard 30 seconds. This is obviously not enough time to get all over the map, but if you knew where you were going, you and the team could post up until you got them again.
Or the DM's have nothing to do with Sam's hiding place.
I do not think we are looking for a new place on the map...and this is because of the basic rules of hide and seek. There are always boundaries. As a child, my neighborhood used to play hide and seek, but certain lawns/backyards, were off limits. If you hid there, you lost. Same principle applies here, we have been all over the map with no hint of going elsewhere.
Some people have seen other potential areas (another lander pad by speed cola, a door below stamin-up) but others have no clipped the map to the furthest extent...no additional areas exist.
So, where could she be?
I'm sure I'll see someone (or many someones) claim the centrifuge...and i say show me proof. I don't think its going to be as simple as one step. The completed mystery man easter egg had 6 confirmed steps....why would finding Sam be easier? The steps for freeing Gersch were continually more complex, requiring more people to complete. The first 2 steps required only one person. But suddenly, you need 4 people for the monkey buttons and pressure switch. Also, don't forget that the LUNA lander step requires 3 lander pads and 1 rider...meaning unless someone runs around like crazy, 4 people...
So why not use 4 people to find her. I have said before that there are 3 inassessible doors...but all look like storage rooms to me. Is she hiding in the closet? (a favorite hiding place of my youth) or is she stuck in the centrifuge and we need to get her out.
The only way I Could see there being more to the map was if it was a puzzle to open, like the casimir device was. (this is a pretty big if in my mind).
So, here is how I propose to find Sam: we need a team. This team needs to explore every inch of Ascension. This team needs to note every minor detail from battery locations, lander configuration, perk cola songs, etc. And make a note of it all.
Then, they need to complete the mystery man easter egg...and scour the map again. Find what is different, what sounds are new. Does something in the distance look different. Does the moon change? They need to confirm and/or debunk existing hypothesis and create their own while exploring. What can they find that changes or seems different about each section of the map.
Yes, that seems obvious, but notice we are now aware we are looking for a hiding place. What does that tell us? Someplace inconspicuous...someplace where a small child could hide...a small child with godlike powers and "Fluffy" hellhound pets...Most of all, what is or is not a Logical "first step" to a new easter egg...one more complex than mystery man.
My idea being out...your Ideas? Thoughts? Comment Below!
P.s. Forgive the wall text...please.
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Copy Pasta aside, I like the idea... even though it'll lead to nothing.
What I'd personally like to try, is having someone get out of the map by PHD Flopper right in front of the device, and when someone throws a Gersch at it, the person can jump into the black hole the instant the device is sucked into it.
I'd like to see where they end up. Will they be placed into a random part of the map? Or end up with the Mystery Man and Sam?
What I'd personally like to try, is having someone get out of the map by PHD Flopper right in front of the device, and when someone throws a Gersch at it, the person can jump into the black hole the instant the device is sucked into it.
I'd like to see where they end up. Will they be placed into a random part of the map? Or end up with the Mystery Man and Sam?
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Original_Sin wrote Copy Pasta aside, I like the idea... even though it'll lead to nothing.
What I'd personally like to try, is having someone get out of the map by PHD Flopper right in front of the device, and when someone throws a Gersch at it, the person can jump into the black hole the instant the device is sucked into it.
I'd like to see where they end up. Will they be placed into a random part of the map? Or end up with the Mystery Man and Sam?
You know, I never thought of that! Thats a good idea hopefully a JTagger will do it.
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Original_Sin wrote Copy Pasta aside, I like the idea... even though it'll lead to nothing.
What I'd personally like to try, is having someone get out of the map by PHD Flopper right in front of the device, and when someone throws a Gersch at it, the person can jump into the black hole the instant the device is sucked into it.
I'd like to see where they end up. Will they be placed into a random part of the map? Or end up with the Mystery Man and Sam?
so ur saying that if we glitch out of the map we can find sam or the mystery man? i dont think so. Treyarch wouldn't put an easter egg that would require to use a glitch, it's a glitch even treyarch wouldn't find out about these if it wasn't for the players
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JRA808 wrote so ur saying that if we glitch out of the map we can find sam or the mystery man?
It was a joke. Hence the smiley after it.
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He just wants to see where the generator leads and thats not a bad idea at all im thinking though there is another generator and Sam quite possibly could be trapped by the Kassimir device like Gersh. Only one side lights up when u power it up which leads to Gersh's freedom. Well on the other side there are four more lights maybe with the 2nd generator u power those up.
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Original_Sin wroteJRA808 wrote so ur saying that if we glitch out of the map we can find sam or the mystery man?
It was a joke. Hence the smiley after it.
in the world of the interwebs putting a smiley face at the end of a post doesn't always mean they're joking no matter what smiley u put on it nobody will be able to tell ...jk
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a lot of info very descriptive nice work Keep it up Good luck
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KeeZDAviator wrote He just wants to see where the generator leads and thats not a bad idea at all
According to the easter egg code, the generator is simply deleted. I'm more interested in seeing where the black hole would teleport you when it's outside of the map.
I assume it would still randomly place you somewhere inside of the map.
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This is stupid that you keep posting crap.
It ends at death machines.
It ends at death machines.
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