Yeah idk whats going on, everything but madden 12 and mw3 seem to work on the first try, mw3 works about the 2nd time i put it in, madden doesnt work at all but every other game starts up normally. i guess ill just buy a new mw3 and madden. the guy on the phone said that some of the early copies of mw3 had a problem with the way they were written and so did madden so idk. at least i can still play resident evil, hopefully lol. thanks for the tips tho guys:)