James_Frazer wrote STOP POSTING STUFF ABOUT GOD. It's bloody annoying hearing everyone saying that god isn't real. I have my opinion, you have yours. Maybe if you didn't share yours I wouldn't have to share mine. All your doing is annoying Christians by saying you don't believe in god. And if we say we believe in him you immediately stop us.


This post is to everyone. Grow up.


James

Tolerated wrote The questions you gotta ask yourself is, Who is God?, Have you ever seen him before?, Have you seen a rock made by him? and is all of this just in your imagination followed by the psychological and mental thoughts and images that your parents and the society implanted while you were growing up?

James_Frazer wrote STOP POSTING STUFF ABOUT GOD. It's bloody annoying hearing everyone saying that god isn't real. I have my opinion, you have yours. Maybe if you didn't share yours I wouldn't have to share mine. All your doing is annoying Christians by saying you don't believe in god. And if we say we believe in him you immediately stop us.


This post is to everyone. Grow up.


James

IHasDaiPhone wrote

Tolerated wrote The questions you gotta ask yourself is, Who is God?, Have you ever seen him before?, Have you seen a rock made by him? and is all of this just in your imagination followed by the psychological and mental thoughts and images that your parents and the society implanted while you were growing up?

You can ask the same about air or even gravity.
What is air? Have you seen it?
What is gravity? Have you seen it?

Brr2z wrote

Sax wrote If god can do anything, why won't he give African kids food?

In reply to this, god helps those who help themselves.

Mohaa634 wrote have you ever heard the story of the student and the professor?

here it is, this should explain it

(this is c&p btw)

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A science professor begins his school year with
a lecture to the students, "Let me explain the
problem science has with religion." The atheist
professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then

asks one of his new students to stand.

"You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"

"Yes sir," the student says.

"So you believe in God?"

"Absolutely."

"Is God good?"

"Sure! God's good."

"Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?"

"Yes."

"Are you good or evil?"

"The Bible says I'm evil."

The professor grins knowingly. "Aha! The
Bible!" He considers for a moment.
"Here's one for you. Let's say
there's a sick person over here and you can cure
him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you
try?"

"Yes sir, I would."

"So you're good...!"

"I wouldn't say that."

"But why not say that? You'd help a sick and
maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we
could. But God doesn't."

The student does not answer, so the professor
continues. "He doesn't, does he? My brother
was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he
prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good?
Hmmm? Can you answer that one?"

The student remains silent.

"No, you can't, can you?" the professor
says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk
to give the student time to relax.

"Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?"

"Er...yes," the student says.

"Is Satan good?"

The student doesn't hesitate on this one.
"No."

"Then where does Satan come from?"

The student falters. "From God"

"That's right. God made Satan, didn't
he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?"

"Yes, sir."

"Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God
did make everything, correct?"

"Yes."

"So who created evil?" The professor
continued, "If God created everything, then God
created evil, since evil exists, and according to the
principle that our works define who we are, then God is
evil."

Again, the student has no answer. "Is there
sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these
terrible things, do they exist in this world?"

The student squirms on his feet. "Yes."

"So who created them?"

The student does not answer again, so the professor
repeats his question. "Who created them?"
There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks
away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is
mesmerized. "Tell me," he continues onto
another student. "Do you believe in Jesus Christ,
son?"

The student's voice betrays him and cracks.
"Yes, professor, I do."

The old man stops pacing. "Science says you have
five senses you use to identify and observe the world
around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?"

"No sir. I've never seen Him."

"Then tell us if you've ever heard your
Jesus?"

"No, sir, I have not."

"Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus
or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory
perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that
matter?"

"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."

"Yet you still believe in him?"

"Yes."

"According to the rules of empirical, testable,
demonstrable protocol, science says your God
doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?"

"Nothing," the student replies. "I only
have my faith."

"Yes, faith," the professor repeats.
"And that is the problem science has with God.
There is no evidence, only faith."

The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking
a question of His own. "Professor, is there such
thing as heat?"

"Yes," the professor replies.
"There's heat."

"And is there such a thing as cold?"

"Yes, son, there's cold too."

"No sir, there isn't."

The professor turns to face the student, obviously
interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The
student begins to explain. "You can have lots of
heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited
heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we
don't have anything called 'cold'. We can
hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but
we can't go any further after that. There is no
such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go
colder than the lowest -458 degrees."

"Every body or object is susceptible to study when
it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a
body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero
(-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see,
sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence
of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in
thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the
opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."

Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the
classroom, sounding like a hammer.

"What about darkness, professor. Is there such a
thing as darkness?"

"Yes," the professor replies without
hesitation. "What is night if it isn't
darkness?"

"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not
something; it is the absence of something. You can have
low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light,
but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and
it's called darkness, isn't it? That's
the meaning we use to define the word."

"In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you
would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't
you?"

The professor begins to smile at the student in front
of him. This will be a good semester. "So what
point are you making, young man?"

"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical
premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion
must also be flawed."

The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this
time. "Flawed? Can you explain how?"

"You are working on the premise of duality,"
the student explains. "You argue that there is life
and then there's death; a good God and a bad God.
You are viewing the concept of God as something finite,
something we can measure. Sir, science can't even
explain a thought."

"It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never
seen, much less fully understood either one. To view
death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the
fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of
it."

"Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your
students that they evolved from a monkey?"

"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary
process, young man, yes, of course I do."

"Have you ever observed evolution with your own
eyes, sir?"

The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling,
as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good
semester, indeed.

"Since no one has ever observed the process of
evolution at work and cannot even prove that this
process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching
your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a
preacher?"

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent
until the commotion has subsided.

"To continue the point you were making earlier to
the other student, let me give you an example of what I
mean."

The student looks around the room. "Is there
anyone in the class who has ever seen the
professor's brain?" The class breaks out into
laughter.

"Is there anyone here who has ever heard the
professor's brain, felt the professor's brain,
touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one
appears to have done so. So, according to the
established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable
protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all
due respect, sir."

"So if science says you have no brain, how can we
trust your lectures, sir?"

Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at
the student, his face unreadable.

Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man
answers. "I guess you'll have to take them on
faith."

"Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in
fact, faith exists with life," the student
continues. "Now, sir, is there such a thing as
evil?"

Now uncertain, the professor responds, "Of course,
there is. We see it everyday. It is in the daily example
of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude
of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These
manifestations are nothing else but evil."

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist
sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is
simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and
cold, a word that man has created to describe the
absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the
result of what happens when man does not have God's
love present in his heart. It's like the cold that
comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes
when there is no light."