If generation, r00t_b33r, and overclocker approve this, then I will buy it.

Skruffy wrote

r00t_b33r wrote Copied and pasted from another topic.

All-solid state storage, 2880 x 1800 panel (220 ppi), 8GB RAM, a GT 650m, and 7-hour battery life? Sounds like a winner to me. The design is among the best, but Apple's design flaws still plague it. I'm not going to be ridiculous and say this isn't one of the best laptops on the market right now, but it has some common issues.

1. Cooling still sucks. It's a Mac.

2. You can't upgrade anything. At all. Yet, it's apparently relatively easy to remove the bottom panel, which makes little sense to me.

3. It's overpriced. As good as it may be, the price is just stupidly high.

4. No matte display standard, or even an option. Deal-breaker for me personally, not that I'm not boycotting Apple.

Still, many arguments people are making against it are ridiculous, like gaming. This is not a gaming computer, and if you must run games, you don't have to run at at native resolution. If you run it at 1080p, then it's like having a 1080p monitor.

No, you can't get a computer this good for $600. There are more things to take into consideration than the specs sheet, like build quality, thickness, input quality, etc. This is a good computer held down by Apple's stupid design philosophies.

What gets me is that the rest of the PC laptop industry was too stupid or blind to see that this is where laptops are going. It would have been easy to do this, BUT THEY DIDN'T. I predicted this would be the next step YEARS AGO, because it's obvious. Laptops should focus on user experience, not specs, and Apple does that. You can't compare a poorly-built Toshiba to a similarly specced Macbook because of intangibles that aren't represented on paper. Asus had the right idea with the latest Zenbooks with 1080p panels, but they were the only ones and didn't take it far enough. I'm seriously disappointed in the laptop industry right now, if not angry.

i think whoever posted this is right. I know what it means to have a stunning computer on a budget, i built one, and I need a laptop for college, and would buy the 2012 model, BUT, it is overpriced, and it doesnt even have a CD drive... come on, you can use laptops to watch movies on the go... i guess i could burn/download onto my external and keep them there

Haha, I wrote it! I wouldn't have copied and pasted it if it wasn't mine. Personally I think optical media is on its way out and should be phased out. It's completely irrelevant to my life and I only see it causing problems elsewhere.

Symbiote wrote If generation, r00t_b33r, and overclocker approve this, then I will buy it.

I wouldn't. I don't approve of it, I just approve of the philosophies Apple is pushing with it. Some of them, at least.

r00t_b33r wrote

Skruffy wrote

r00t_b33r wrote Copied and pasted from another topic.

All-solid state storage, 2880 x 1800 panel (220 ppi), 8GB RAM, a GT 650m, and 7-hour battery life? Sounds like a winner to me. The design is among the best, but Apple's design flaws still plague it. I'm not going to be ridiculous and say this isn't one of the best laptops on the market right now, but it has some common issues.

1. Cooling still sucks. It's a Mac.

2. You can't upgrade anything. At all. Yet, it's apparently relatively easy to remove the bottom panel, which makes little sense to me.

3. It's overpriced. As good as it may be, the price is just stupidly high.

4. No matte display standard, or even an option. Deal-breaker for me personally, not that I'm not boycotting Apple.

Still, many arguments people are making against it are ridiculous, like gaming. This is not a gaming computer, and if you must run games, you don't have to run at at native resolution. If you run it at 1080p, then it's like having a 1080p monitor.

No, you can't get a computer this good for $600. There are more things to take into consideration than the specs sheet, like build quality, thickness, input quality, etc. This is a good computer held down by Apple's stupid design philosophies.

What gets me is that the rest of the PC laptop industry was too stupid or blind to see that this is where laptops are going. It would have been easy to do this, BUT THEY DIDN'T. I predicted this would be the next step YEARS AGO, because it's obvious. Laptops should focus on user experience, not specs, and Apple does that. You can't compare a poorly-built Toshiba to a similarly specced Macbook because of intangibles that aren't represented on paper. Asus had the right idea with the latest Zenbooks with 1080p panels, but they were the only ones and didn't take it far enough. I'm seriously disappointed in the laptop industry right now, if not angry.

i think whoever posted this is right. I know what it means to have a stunning computer on a budget, i built one, and I need a laptop for college, and would buy the 2012 model, BUT, it is overpriced, and it doesnt even have a CD drive... come on, you can use laptops to watch movies on the go... i guess i could burn/download onto my external and keep them there

Haha, I wrote it! I wouldn't have copied and pasted it if it wasn't mine. Personally I think optical media is on its way out and should be phased out. It's completely irrelevant to my life and I only see it causing problems elsewhere.

so your telling me you would rather have to download or rip movies on another computer, to play them on a portable computer? Lets assume you have no internet and no netflix. You wouldnt want to throw in a movie and play it?

come on... that is what makes a laptop handy, although, i dont for see me renting any movies at college, gotta watch them online... BUT the option would still be nice

Looks so nice but way overpriced.

You could get a windows computer with same performance for a lot less.

Skruffy wrote

r00t_b33r wrote

Skruffy wrote

r00t_b33r wrote Copied and pasted from another topic.

All-solid state storage, 2880 x 1800 panel (220 ppi), 8GB RAM, a GT 650m, and 7-hour battery life? Sounds like a winner to me. The design is among the best, but Apple's design flaws still plague it. I'm not going to be ridiculous and say this isn't one of the best laptops on the market right now, but it has some common issues.

1. Cooling still sucks. It's a Mac.

2. You can't upgrade anything. At all. Yet, it's apparently relatively easy to remove the bottom panel, which makes little sense to me.

3. It's overpriced. As good as it may be, the price is just stupidly high.

4. No matte display standard, or even an option. Deal-breaker for me personally, not that I'm not boycotting Apple.

Still, many arguments people are making against it are ridiculous, like gaming. This is not a gaming computer, and if you must run games, you don't have to run at at native resolution. If you run it at 1080p, then it's like having a 1080p monitor.

No, you can't get a computer this good for $600. There are more things to take into consideration than the specs sheet, like build quality, thickness, input quality, etc. This is a good computer held down by Apple's stupid design philosophies.

What gets me is that the rest of the PC laptop industry was too stupid or blind to see that this is where laptops are going. It would have been easy to do this, BUT THEY DIDN'T. I predicted this would be the next step YEARS AGO, because it's obvious. Laptops should focus on user experience, not specs, and Apple does that. You can't compare a poorly-built Toshiba to a similarly specced Macbook because of intangibles that aren't represented on paper. Asus had the right idea with the latest Zenbooks with 1080p panels, but they were the only ones and didn't take it far enough. I'm seriously disappointed in the laptop industry right now, if not angry.

i think whoever posted this is right. I know what it means to have a stunning computer on a budget, i built one, and I need a laptop for college, and would buy the 2012 model, BUT, it is overpriced, and it doesnt even have a CD drive... come on, you can use laptops to watch movies on the go... i guess i could burn/download onto my external and keep them there

Haha, I wrote it! I wouldn't have copied and pasted it if it wasn't mine. Personally I think optical media is on its way out and should be phased out. It's completely irrelevant to my life and I only see it causing problems elsewhere.

so your telling me you would rather have to download or rip movies on another computer, to play them on a portable computer? Lets assume you have no internet and no netflix. You wouldnt want to throw in a movie and play it?

come on... that is what makes a laptop handy, although, i dont for see me renting any movies at college, gotta watch them online... BUT the option would still be nice

I actually find downloading movies to be much more convenient. I took the DVD drive out of my laptop as soon as I got it in favor of a second hard drive. Did this with my Macbook Pro when I owned one, never once missed it. I can get Blu-Ray quality rips without having a Blu-Ray drive. Optical media is also very slow. If I'm going to be without internet and want to watch some movies, I'll cue up some downloads overnight and go to sleep. Better quality and better battery life than Netflix. It's also so much easier to manage raw, DRM-free video files from rips or downloads.

r00t_b33r wrote

Skruffy wrote

r00t_b33r wrote

Skruffy wrote

r00t_b33r wrote Copied and pasted from another topic.

All-solid state storage, 2880 x 1800 panel (220 ppi), 8GB RAM, a GT 650m, and 7-hour battery life? Sounds like a winner to me. The design is among the best, but Apple's design flaws still plague it. I'm not going to be ridiculous and say this isn't one of the best laptops on the market right now, but it has some common issues.

1. Cooling still sucks. It's a Mac.

2. You can't upgrade anything. At all. Yet, it's apparently relatively easy to remove the bottom panel, which makes little sense to me.

3. It's overpriced. As good as it may be, the price is just stupidly high.

4. No matte display standard, or even an option. Deal-breaker for me personally, not that I'm not boycotting Apple.

Still, many arguments people are making against it are ridiculous, like gaming. This is not a gaming computer, and if you must run games, you don't have to run at at native resolution. If you run it at 1080p, then it's like having a 1080p monitor.

No, you can't get a computer this good for $600. There are more things to take into consideration than the specs sheet, like build quality, thickness, input quality, etc. This is a good computer held down by Apple's stupid design philosophies.

What gets me is that the rest of the PC laptop industry was too stupid or blind to see that this is where laptops are going. It would have been easy to do this, BUT THEY DIDN'T. I predicted this would be the next step YEARS AGO, because it's obvious. Laptops should focus on user experience, not specs, and Apple does that. You can't compare a poorly-built Toshiba to a similarly specced Macbook because of intangibles that aren't represented on paper. Asus had the right idea with the latest Zenbooks with 1080p panels, but they were the only ones and didn't take it far enough. I'm seriously disappointed in the laptop industry right now, if not angry.

i think whoever posted this is right. I know what it means to have a stunning computer on a budget, i built one, and I need a laptop for college, and would buy the 2012 model, BUT, it is overpriced, and it doesnt even have a CD drive... come on, you can use laptops to watch movies on the go... i guess i could burn/download onto my external and keep them there

Haha, I wrote it! I wouldn't have copied and pasted it if it wasn't mine. Personally I think optical media is on its way out and should be phased out. It's completely irrelevant to my life and I only see it causing problems elsewhere.

so your telling me you would rather have to download or rip movies on another computer, to play them on a portable computer? Lets assume you have no internet and no netflix. You wouldnt want to throw in a movie and play it?

come on... that is what makes a laptop handy, although, i dont for see me renting any movies at college, gotta watch them online... BUT the option would still be nice

I actually find downloading movies to be much more convenient. I took the DVD drive out of my laptop as soon as I got it in favor of a second hard drive. Did this with my Macbook Pro when I owned one, never once missed it. I can get Blu-Ray quality rips without having a Blu-Ray drive. Optical media is also very slow. If I'm going to be without internet and want to watch some movies, I'll cue up some downloads overnight and go to sleep. Better quality and better battery life than Netflix. It's also so much easier to manage raw, DRM-free video files from rips or downloads.

ok fair enough, and you could also just store them on an external if you have one.

BTW, can mac OS run raw video files?

By raw I mean like .mkv and .avi files. No baggage, just the movie.

r00t_b33r wrote By raw I mean like .mkv and .avi files. No baggage, just the movie.

thats what i mean as well, mac os can run .mkvs and .avis?

Skruffy wrote

r00t_b33r wrote By raw I mean like .mkv and .avi files. No baggage, just the movie.

thats what i mean as well, mac os can run .mkvs and .avis?

VLC, yeah. Any OS can run just about any codec, even ones for children.

In all seriousness, though, I like OSX. I want to dual-boot it on my T500. I prefer Windows, though, and I will prefer GNU/Linux to that.